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Living with Bipolar

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TopsyTurvyDays · 24/06/2025 16:52

Named changed and starting a thread just to reach for some understanding I think.

In my 50s, diagnosed a couple of years ago with bipolar when had episode of hympomania. Got back in touch with consultant yesterday as could feel mood lifting (I get more mania than depression). I don’t get euphoria- just angst and misery. Consultant is trying to help me find something more constant I can take to help get enough sleep, as sleeping tablets are addictive and stop working.

I’m just tired and worried and constantly monitoring. Worried I’ll be too much for my friends one day. Worried that I’ve passed on troublesome genes to my kids. Not too worried about my DH as he seems to take it in his stride… looking back I was disguising mild mania with being drunk when we met back in our uni days - so when I fell over the edge, it was all behaviour he’d seen before. We had a worrying couple of days while they ruled out brain tumours etc.

The only people who were mean to me (shouted and screamed) when I slid down the slope into needing an ambulance were my family - siblings and parents. That’s hurt.

I thought I’d imploded my life but actually it’s all gone back to being the same 99%.

I worry for the future. I had an adverse reaction to diazepam and I couldn’t get them to believe me because they thought my behaviour was all the mania. My DH believed me and he got them to believe him.

I worry I won’t be able to drive in the future as we live rurally. But living where we live is part of the reason I held on so long as it’s so peaceful and I love it. Doesn’t work if can’t drive though (lockdown was a taster of what being stuck in house 24/7 was like and it was unbearable for me).

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Britneyfan · 11/07/2025 21:11

Hi OP, I also have bipolar 1, this is a great thread, let’s try and keep it going! It’s so nice to hear from and interact other people living with bipolar disorder specifically, particularly people who are “higher functioning” with it I guess I would say, and not eg. in and out of prison/on drugs/generally leading super chaotic lives as many people with this illness unfortunately do and which tends to be the stereotype. I think someone else said there are more of us out there lurking in the shadows just getting on with life who you don’t necessarily know about as due to the stigma people often keep their diagnosis very quiet. I find this forum a relatively quiet corner of mumsnet generally, and because not all mental health problems are the same or cause the same issues, just like not all physical issues do, I sometimes find it hard to relate to others on here with different issues.

I am in the slightly unusual/stressful situation of being a doctor (GP) as well as having bipolar 1. Which adds more layers of difficulty in terms of who I tell etc. and also in dealing with the stress and high responsibility and long hours of this sort of job. There is no doubt the diagnosis still carries a certain level of social stigma. I work part time these days, I genuinely think the stress of trying to do the job full time would cause a serious relapse. It’s so great you’re able to stop work - I am super jealous! It’s one less thing to worry about juggling if you’re financially stable so well done for getting yourself in that position. It’s also great that you have a supportive DH who wants to hug you better (even if that alone is unlikely to work 🤣) - again I am super jealous as a divorced single mother without a new partner.

It sounds to me like you’re still coming to terms with your diagnosis. Which is fair enough, it’s a “big” diagnosis made relatively recently (in contrast I was diagnosed 18 years ago right after the birth of my son when I had what was my one and only manic/psychotic episode as I tend more to depression, and ended up under section - I was initially admitted informally “voluntarily” -had no clue what was happening around me by that stage - and tried to escape, nearly made it too 🤣).

I was on lithium for a long time then moved to lamotrigine as my mood stabiliser (I’m also on an antidepressant), as I felt the lithium was making me feel cognitively “slow” which I felt was making it harder to do my job. The lamotrigine was a lot better for me. I also wanted to be on something that I could get pregnant again if I wanted another baby, though this never happened due to the divorce basically. When I was initially admitted they put me on olanzapine but it didn’t bring me down from the mania at all and I went from a size 12. To a size 20 within 3 weeks (and have struggled to lose the weight ever since). I would never let them give me olanzapine again. I also can’t have lithium now due to being diagnosed with a sudden cardiac death syndrome as well which lithium can trigger, after my younger brother suddenly collapsed and died out of the blue.Anyway for you, the quetiapine sounds like a good suggestion, sleep is crucial, the first sign of mania for me was when I stopped sleeping.

In terms of worry about the future I totally get it and have had many of the same thoughts as you about it, I think they are normal and understandable concerns. As well as your worries I have an additional couple of worries about the future (sorry!). That when I am an old woman if I don’t have a lot of family and friends to speak up for me, people won’t notice or care when I’m getting more unwell and busy GPs won’t realise or if they do won’t bend over backwards to get me into a psych ward etc if needed and I will end up neglected and going quietly mad by myself (I still recall visiting an elderly patient with bipolar disorder as a medical student with a GP when shadowing and it was basically this situation). I also worry if I get dementia that I will be “stuck” in the traumatic postnatal era that I experienced in my brain…

In terms of where you live long term, like me, it sounds like you enjoy the peace and quiet of living rurally and I do think that benefits my mental health, so I wouldn’t move right away closer to town, just see how things go over the next few years while they tweak your meds and try to work out what works best for you and see how stable or otherwise you are. It sounds unlikely you’d not be legally allowed to drive for long periods of time given that you haven’t had significant episodes in the past. For me I eventually decided that if and when that becomes an issue I can always move then to somewhere that’s more accessible as a non-driver. Also Uber now exists in many areas! In fact I actually don’t drive myself (never learned then got banned for a year after my manic psychotic episode anyway which put me off trying to learn) and I manage though I’d say my area is semi-rural rather than deep rural.

Regarding who to tell and potentially passing on your genes, I am personally fairly open about my diagnosis except when it comes to work. I’d actually love to be more open at work as I think that’s psychologically healthier and I sort of live in fear of the GMC as I feel if I put a foot wrong and end up under them with a history of bipolar disorder I would definitely get struck off. Perhaps I’m being unfair to the GMC but they are not know for being fair to doctors! Especially these days. It causes me unnecessary stress at work trying to hide it. And I feel like I have to lie if I need a day off due to depression about what’s wrong with me which I hate. Also feel I have to save up all my sick days for being mentally ill, so have to struggle in with any physical illness unless I am literally in hospital. Anyway. I feel we don’t yet live in a world where patients would generally be accepting of having a doctor with bipolar 1, nor do we live in a world where I imagine anyone would hire me as a GP knowing about my diagnosis sadly. So only my appraiser and occupational health are aware generally. I have occasionally told a colleague or two if I really trust them not to blab, as it makes me feel safer if someone I work with is quietly looking out for signs of deterioration in my mental state, to help protect patients if I started to get unwell. Luckily I have always had pretty good insight when I am becoming unwell, including my one and only manic episode, so am able to step back when I need to. I have sometimes reduced my hours at work for a while if I recognise I am going downhill etc. As a single parent with a small child nobody queried this but I worry about how I will explain it now he is hopefully off to uni elsewhere in the autumn!

My friends and family all know about my diagnosis and understand (they also didn’t deal with my deterioration into mania well but I’ve forgiven them as nobody really understood exactly what was happening at the time, and it was all out of concern for me and my son), and my now 18 year old son also knows and has grown up with me being open about it with him. I find it helpful to have my family and friends know so they can also keep an eye out for me going downhill and let me know their worries/insist on my seeing a doctor etc, and yes as a pp said sometimes help remind me about medication etc when I am getting into a new routine.

I think if your kids are old enough to drive I would be honest with them about your diagnosis TBH. It might cause some worry/shock but I think that will be the case whatever age you tell them. Certainly I would worry a lot more about my son going off to uni elsewhere without understanding that he has a genetic predisposition to both unipolar depression and bipolar disorder, and taking care of his sleep needs and taking action at an early stage if he feels his mental health slipping. I have a second degree relative in the generation above me who had bipolar disorder and hung herself in her early 20s. So yes I do worry slightly about having passed my bipolar genes on to my son (especially as when I am depressed, which I am much of the time to some degree or other unfortunately, I am very pessimistic in my thinking), however I feel like I have it more in perspective many years down the line and don’t think about it loads. IF it happens (and it may well not), then who else better to support him than me as I have lots of lived experience. And I feel like I have a lot of good qualities in my genes too, some of which I think actually tend to go along with a bipolar diagnosis such as high intelligence and creativity. That makes me feel a bit better about it anyway, essentially he is my son and that may mean he carries some of my weaknesses but also my strengths.

Sorry this post is ridiculously long lol but you raised a lot of issues and as I am further down the line from diagnosis I wanted to explain how I’ve thought about them over the years.

TopsyTurvyDays · 11/07/2025 20:19

HayuBingeWatcher · 11/07/2025 18:53

Talking about driving. My psychiatrist said he would prescribe my dose of 200mg. And we wouldn’t need to worry about continuing to work and drive/manage my own journeys. He said anything above this, combined with my other medication would need to be assessed further.

being selfish is a part of my own treatment plan and I had to teach myself to be grateful that I created my own free space and time and I no longer fear being sectioned or falling of the mental crisis wagon as I’m really self conscious of my triggers along with the right medication.

its doable, I just wanted to let you know. My bpd tells me I’m bragging but I know I’m not as I’m typing the words hoping they help someone know there is a more peaceful place when you get the right support, support yourself well and have access to the right medication.
I’m better, I’m a better version of me and I’m constantly working on keeping it that way.

and if you feel like there’s no one to talk to, come back and talk to the internet, I find it a great way to practice not caring what anyone else says or think and it’s also nice having a place to talk about it to.

wow that was a lot :) I’ve been a bit hyper all day today and it’s the end of the week so I’m happily letting it flow.

Thank you for your message. I really appreciate it. I’m so glad I reached out.

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TopsyTurvyDays · 11/07/2025 20:17

Superscientist · 11/07/2025 19:53

I get either a 1 or 3 year driving licence. If I have had an episode in the previous year it's a 1 year licence otherwise it's a 3 year licence. Some times the consultants need a prod to fill in the paperwork. I've only had one occasion where I have been asked by my team to stop driving. I was having a hypomanic episode that was heading towards mania. I still had insight and was at the time fit to drive but the way my mood was heading I could have become unfit to drive quite quickly so they asked me to stop as a precaution until my mood stabilised.

In terms of staying well my last consultant gave me his 5 things to do each day to keep the psych away

  1. Be mindful
  2. Be active
  3. Stay connected
  4. Learn
  5. Giving

I don't manage all every day but I do think it helps. When things are feeling like they are going awry I up my mindfulness. I need to do it in ways that keeps my hands busy so tend to do colouring or cross stitch or other crafty things.
I do try to run regularly even if it's just 1-3km. I walk my daughter to school and back which is almost a mile each way.
I've connected with some of the school mums and we now walk back from school together regularly. Once a month we do either a coffee morning or a longer walk.
I've been doing Duolingo every day to learn a bit of french and that gives me a bit of a boost.
I try to help those around and posting on here helps too to use my experiences to help others (hopefully!)

Thank you - that’s all really useful, I like those 5 things to do every day. I think I’ve shrunk my life a little too small.

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TopsyTurvyDays · 11/07/2025 20:13

Serencwtch · 11/07/2025 17:02

Don't give up hope with the driving. Most people with bipolar can drive if stable on medication.
You might have to renew your license every year at first but it's definitely not an automatic driving ban

Thank you. My license was stopped by error I think when I first informed the DVLA - I assumed based on what GP put on form. When I reapplied & had consultant psychiatrist fill in form instead, I got a 1 year license and now have a 3 year medical license. So I was only not allowed to drive for about 6 weeks I think. But it felt a lot longer as I didn’t know why it has been revoked and didn’t know whether I would get it reinstated. It makes me worried about having another full on episode in the future - but I know that’s me trying to control the uncontrollable, which is a huge part of my damage and is very unhelpful for my wellbeing.

It has been so helpful to have all these responses to me reaching out. Hearing from people who understand, have been so kind annd lovely in your replies and who’ve found a positive way through has really lifted me.

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Superscientist · 11/07/2025 19:53

I get either a 1 or 3 year driving licence. If I have had an episode in the previous year it's a 1 year licence otherwise it's a 3 year licence. Some times the consultants need a prod to fill in the paperwork. I've only had one occasion where I have been asked by my team to stop driving. I was having a hypomanic episode that was heading towards mania. I still had insight and was at the time fit to drive but the way my mood was heading I could have become unfit to drive quite quickly so they asked me to stop as a precaution until my mood stabilised.

In terms of staying well my last consultant gave me his 5 things to do each day to keep the psych away

  1. Be mindful
  2. Be active
  3. Stay connected
  4. Learn
  5. Giving

I don't manage all every day but I do think it helps. When things are feeling like they are going awry I up my mindfulness. I need to do it in ways that keeps my hands busy so tend to do colouring or cross stitch or other crafty things.
I do try to run regularly even if it's just 1-3km. I walk my daughter to school and back which is almost a mile each way.
I've connected with some of the school mums and we now walk back from school together regularly. Once a month we do either a coffee morning or a longer walk.
I've been doing Duolingo every day to learn a bit of french and that gives me a bit of a boost.
I try to help those around and posting on here helps too to use my experiences to help others (hopefully!)

HayuBingeWatcher · 11/07/2025 18:53

Talking about driving. My psychiatrist said he would prescribe my dose of 200mg. And we wouldn’t need to worry about continuing to work and drive/manage my own journeys. He said anything above this, combined with my other medication would need to be assessed further.

being selfish is a part of my own treatment plan and I had to teach myself to be grateful that I created my own free space and time and I no longer fear being sectioned or falling of the mental crisis wagon as I’m really self conscious of my triggers along with the right medication.

its doable, I just wanted to let you know. My bpd tells me I’m bragging but I know I’m not as I’m typing the words hoping they help someone know there is a more peaceful place when you get the right support, support yourself well and have access to the right medication.
I’m better, I’m a better version of me and I’m constantly working on keeping it that way.

and if you feel like there’s no one to talk to, come back and talk to the internet, I find it a great way to practice not caring what anyone else says or think and it’s also nice having a place to talk about it to.

wow that was a lot :) I’ve been a bit hyper all day today and it’s the end of the week so I’m happily letting it flow.

Serencwtch · 11/07/2025 17:02

TopsyTurvyDays · 10/07/2025 21:36

Thanks for your post, I like the idea of an electric bike. Now the kids are learning to drive,m that would be a great solution for me. I definitely want to live a normal and fulfilling life. I think I’ve been feeling a bit sorry for myself,

Don't give up hope with the driving. Most people with bipolar can drive if stable on medication.
You might have to renew your license every year at first but it's definitely not an automatic driving ban

TopsyTurvyDays · 10/07/2025 22:17

HayuBingeWatcher · 10/07/2025 21:50

A smaller dose of quetiapine at bed time is meant to help with sleep. I also take magnesium near bed time.

I take a higher dose of quetiapine at night as that helps to keep me balanced and I take zopiclone 7.5mg to sleep. I take this long term and my gp is fine about it.

i think they are just relieved to have finally found a balance of meds that keep me on the right track.

i do also take an antidepressant in the morning along with B12 and vit D.

i don’t tell anyone, I work part time wfh and I enjoy some hobbies in my free time.
sleep is the biggest priority for my mental health I’ve proven this on several occasions where I’ve had episodes off the back of lack of sleep.

and be nice to yourself, I know it sounds daft but I tell myself to have a great day and I do things for myself including saying no to things I know are going to drain me, I know how to be selfish to take care of myself which was a massive turn around.

Thanks. I have found the same sleep is important. I definitely have a lot of sleep disturbance. The antihistamines are working for now but I will definitely try quetiapine next if I need to.
I too have learnt to prioritise myself, especially my rest. I do feel I’m being a bit selfish though. I’m not sure I’ve got the balance right but I’m so fearful of having a fill on episode and needing sectioning again that I rest more than I feel I need.

It is so helpful to hear how other people cope and manage to live good lives. I guess because no one talks about it - we don’t know that there are many of us out there. Of the people I’ve told, only one, my oldest and dearest friend copes with me talking about it and I try not to overload her as we meet infrequently due to distance.

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HayuBingeWatcher · 10/07/2025 21:50

A smaller dose of quetiapine at bed time is meant to help with sleep. I also take magnesium near bed time.

I take a higher dose of quetiapine at night as that helps to keep me balanced and I take zopiclone 7.5mg to sleep. I take this long term and my gp is fine about it.

i think they are just relieved to have finally found a balance of meds that keep me on the right track.

i do also take an antidepressant in the morning along with B12 and vit D.

i don’t tell anyone, I work part time wfh and I enjoy some hobbies in my free time.
sleep is the biggest priority for my mental health I’ve proven this on several occasions where I’ve had episodes off the back of lack of sleep.

and be nice to yourself, I know it sounds daft but I tell myself to have a great day and I do things for myself including saying no to things I know are going to drain me, I know how to be selfish to take care of myself which was a massive turn around.

TopsyTurvyDays · 10/07/2025 21:36

Serencwtch · 10/07/2025 21:24

I have schizoaffective too. It's a more severe & extreme form of Bipolar 1 & the 2 diagnoses overlap.
The difference for me is if I have a full mania (rather than a hypo) I become paranoid & psychotic.
People tend to be diagnosed with the more severe bipolar 1/schizoaffective as late teens or young adults so it's unlikely that you will develop it now & there's no evidence that bipolar 2 deteriorates into more severe forms.

I have the same issue with driving & also live rurally - I am very determined & independent & find a way to get where I want to - walking a hell of a lot, buses , electric bike.

It's actually better in some ways to have a more serious illness like schizoaffective as actually they respond to medication really well. Stuff like eupd isn't treatable & medication only masks it.

I don't discuss my diagnosis with anyone unless I have to. My friends & colleagues have no idea. It's definitely possible to lead a normal & fulfilling life with bipolar 1/schizoaffective

Thanks for your post, I like the idea of an electric bike. Now the kids are learning to drive,m that would be a great solution for me. I definitely want to live a normal and fulfilling life. I think I’ve been feeling a bit sorry for myself,

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Serencwtch · 10/07/2025 21:24

I have schizoaffective too. It's a more severe & extreme form of Bipolar 1 & the 2 diagnoses overlap.
The difference for me is if I have a full mania (rather than a hypo) I become paranoid & psychotic.
People tend to be diagnosed with the more severe bipolar 1/schizoaffective as late teens or young adults so it's unlikely that you will develop it now & there's no evidence that bipolar 2 deteriorates into more severe forms.

I have the same issue with driving & also live rurally - I am very determined & independent & find a way to get where I want to - walking a hell of a lot, buses , electric bike.

It's actually better in some ways to have a more serious illness like schizoaffective as actually they respond to medication really well. Stuff like eupd isn't treatable & medication only masks it.

I don't discuss my diagnosis with anyone unless I have to. My friends & colleagues have no idea. It's definitely possible to lead a normal & fulfilling life with bipolar 1/schizoaffective

Vera87 · 03/07/2025 10:38

I do tell people and I’m open about it. But it’s okay if you don’t want too x

Vera87 · 03/07/2025 10:37

I can relate to this so much.
i have bipolar type 2. I also found stability on Quetiapine
big hugs

ByLimeAnt · 26/06/2025 22:20

Family and very close friends know (couldn't really hide the sections).

Definitely not colleagues. Definitely not work.

If I see a doctor for something unrelated I do not mention it as it affects my care in terms of symptoms being written off as somatic and not being given appropriate pain relief.

The former happened to me recently and a very significant physical health problem was diagnosed. 3 days prior to this I had seen a GP who commented that I had recently had a lot of CMHT input and it was all in my mind.

Reader, I submitted a formal complaint and will refer him to the GMC if I don't get an apology.

Superscientist · 26/06/2025 19:26

My family don't know, my in-laws do. I tell other people though. It's definitely got easier with time. It's now 12 years since I was diagnosed and I'm fairly comfortable with talking about it with people less invested in my health and wellbeing. I also only find it easy to talk about when not struggling, when I'm in a episode I'm less likely to talk about it.

TopsyTurvyDays · 26/06/2025 19:14

hoodiemassive · 26/06/2025 18:46

I have to really trust someone before I tell them.

Close friends witnessed my last hypermanic episode so they pretty much knew anyway. It got very messy Blush

I'm interested in finding out what others say.

That sounds the same as me. My close friends definitely saw me at my worse but it was still a year before I told them diagnosis and I still found it hard.

I’m glad you’ve got some good friends around you.

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hoodiemassive · 26/06/2025 18:47

Oh and it was useful for to tell friends because they have all been wonderful and regularly check I'm taking my meds.

They remind me of how hard I need to work to stay well.

hoodiemassive · 26/06/2025 18:46

I have to really trust someone before I tell them.

Close friends witnessed my last hypermanic episode so they pretty much knew anyway. It got very messy Blush

I'm interested in finding out what others say.

TopsyTurvyDays · 26/06/2025 17:54

Thanks for all the replies. It’s been very useful.

I have been struggling on, just willing it to go away and I now have the confidence to keep saying, I need to try something more as lack of sleep is so detrimental.

One more quick question: do you tell people?

The kids obviously know a certain amount but we’ve not told them the diagnosis. I want to keep my medical confidentiality (and teenagers tell their friends everything!) and the consultant said, in terms of their genetic risk, it’s a question of watchful waiting and we don’t burden them with any worry.
My wider family don’t want to know so that’s an easy decision.
I’ve told a couple of close friends. That’s not been easy but it’s not really changed anything.
I’m worried about telling more people but I wonder if that’s just a sign that I am still coming to terms with it. But then equally, no one goes round telling people everything about themselves - why do people need to know.

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TopsyTurvyDays · 25/06/2025 09:21

Thanks so much for the good advice and supportive comments from everyone. My mind is fizzy and fuzzy this morning - so I’m going to head to bed. I’ll come back and have a look at everyone’s recommendations later. I wish I’d reached out a year ago! It’s been so lovely and useful.

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hoodiemassive · 25/06/2025 08:50

I have a similar history to you op and I take Aripiprazole - it doesn't have any side effects and it regulates my sleep / mania very well.

Definitely try a new medication if you can.

Sajacas · 25/06/2025 08:18

Take a look at the Metabolic Mind website and youtube channel. It was started by the Baszucki family when their son was diagnosed with bipolar and champions better understanding of mental health issues and better treatment. If you have the time and energy watch his story as it might give you some useful information.

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Superscientist · 25/06/2025 07:11

Quetiapine potentially could raise your cholesterol too as it the same class as olanzapine. Although having said that I can't take olanzapine because it makes me incredibly dizzy but have been completely fine on quetiapine.

I started treatment for bipolar around 2012 and between then at 2017 I was having 2-3 episodes a year. In bad years I was only getting a few weeks of stability between episodes. I changed my lifestyle in 2017 after finishing my postgraduate degree and since then I have only had 2 episodes! One mild hypomanic episode when we moved house and depression with psychosis after having my daughter. This was was pretty bad though and took 2 years to recover from as it became treatment resistant.

ByLimeAnt · 25/06/2025 07:10

Your DH sound lovely! I'm glad you were able to make that decision about work.

I'm actually working part time temporarily for a different issue and that has made such a difference to my MH, so sounds like that is great you were able to make that choice.

Might be worth bearing in mind that quetiapine is not necessarily sedating for everyone (I'm on 600mg and it doesn't affect me in that way). I hope you are able to find a good fit for you, best of luck!

TopsyTurvyDays · 24/06/2025 21:55

Thanks ByLimeAnt for your post. You’ve described exacting what I’m feeling and thinking. I absolutely thought I could put it behind me and the realisation has hit that that’s not the case. Feel a bit sad but I know I just need to accept and keep moving forward.

I’m considering going straight to trying quentiipine although my DH is keen to try antihistamines first, He’s been amazing but I think he’s still hoping his can hug it away for me. I wish that too!

I have made the decision to give up work. I tried carrying on but I just can’t do it anymore. I used to sell my soul working in London before we moved far north - so am in the fortunate position of being able to manage till my pension kicks in.

I have had my license suspected one when sectioned for that initial period of hypomania. I do wonder if moving into town would make me worry less if I did have an episode.

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