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Assets but no cash to pay for care - experiences and handhold

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Throwaway380 · 13/10/2026 19:07

Can already think of a billion ways I could have made this easier with hindsight, so please be gentle.

My Mum has got a very complex degenerative neurological disease. Has been cared for at home but my Dad can no longer cope and is in an absolute mess.

We applied for CHC but were deemed ineligible even though every care home I’ve spoken to is astounded at this. We will appeal or reapply but that obviously takes time.

My Mum had about 30k in savings but other than that her one asset is a buy-to-let house she and my Dad co own. Obviously selling this will take a while as need to give notice to current tenants etc.

Was told by the social worker that we could get a Deferred Payment Application on the buy to let, but then told by the council’s finance team they would not do this.

We had a specialist care home place lined up for Thursday but as we don’t now how the proof of financing it they have cancelled this, I’d already arranged for her current drop in carers to stop as of 10am Thursday so currently in a worse position than we were before. Am hoping her current care company can come back.

We have told by multiple nursing homes she is too complex and they can’t meet her needs and her current care company specially train people so if we get a random other company they’re not going to be able to provide that same level of care immediately whatever.

Feel like I’ve utterly messed up and we’re going to have to look at equity release. But equally we will need to sell and my Dad is not going to have that much to live on once the income from the letting goes, and don’t want to go into negative equity on that property and seems to not be advised to do it for short term (whilst we end the tenancy and market the house) in any case.

Have seriously been told by two different people at the council to just call an ambulance or go to A&E if it’s ‘an emergency’. She does not need to be in hospital, and it would really distress her (she’s totally cogent although extremely physically limited).

I honestly can’t believe they can leave people like this, literally nothing on the deferred payment form about it not being suitable for second properties, wasted hours filling it in.

Restarting the search for a nursing home tomorrow but going to face same issues of how complex the needs are. And we’re going to be in a mess with the money in 10 weeks or so anyway, and that’s if we spend her last penny.

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CurlyWurlyKitKat · 17/10/2026 09:17

Do you mind me asking what condition it is? My mum had PSP, and it sounds similar.

My mum was fast tracked CHC and then was removed, and put on FNC while she was in a nursing home. Unfortunately she passed away before we had to sort any payment out for the shortfall.

Have you got consultant support, and have you been given a prognosis?

AGoodDayToTryHard · 17/10/2026 15:53

We’ve just sold mums bungalow as she moved into a dementia care home in June. From day of offer to completion was seven weeks! So we were lucky. We completed all the council paperwork for deferred payment as the care home obviously needed paying: they hadn’t approved or declined in the time it’s taken us to sell. It’s unfathomable how useless the council are.

OP our parents also have rentals - two jointly owned even though they’re divorced. Going to cause a lot of headaches as my dad is refusing to sell, but also can’t buy my mum out. He can fight the council when her bungalow money runs out, I’ve had my fill of interactions with them!

Good luck, and hope your DD has a good birthday x

mybiggreenfrog · 17/10/2026 15:59

I'd get a solicitor to challenge CHC. Get just rely on the fact you won't. Check parents house insurance, they may well have legal cover included.

Throwaway380 · 17/10/2026 21:09

CurlyWurlyKitKat · 17/10/2026 09:17

Do you mind me asking what condition it is? My mum had PSP, and it sounds similar.

My mum was fast tracked CHC and then was removed, and put on FNC while she was in a nursing home. Unfortunately she passed away before we had to sort any payment out for the shortfall.

Have you got consultant support, and have you been given a prognosis?

It is indeed PSP. I’m so sorry your Mum had it too, it’s nasty.

We don’t have any timescales and are under two different consultants. I would say the consultants are supportive but only limited in what they can do.

I think average survival is about 7 years, and Mum is on year 11 post the classic initial diagnosis of Parkinson’s later clarified as PSP. Personally I think Mum now seems exceptionally frail, but she has never actually had any pneumonia or anything so not sure it’s just the progress of the illness.

It sounds harsh but I wouldn’t be surprised if she went thoroughly downhill within the month, or will still be with us this time next year, it’s all so uncertain.

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Throwaway380 · 17/10/2026 21:17

AGoodDayToTryHard · 17/10/2026 15:53

We’ve just sold mums bungalow as she moved into a dementia care home in June. From day of offer to completion was seven weeks! So we were lucky. We completed all the council paperwork for deferred payment as the care home obviously needed paying: they hadn’t approved or declined in the time it’s taken us to sell. It’s unfathomable how useless the council are.

OP our parents also have rentals - two jointly owned even though they’re divorced. Going to cause a lot of headaches as my dad is refusing to sell, but also can’t buy my mum out. He can fight the council when her bungalow money runs out, I’ve had my fill of interactions with them!

Good luck, and hope your DD has a good birthday x

Agree about the council, they feel like madly inhumane system. Sorry you had to deal with it too

And I feel for you about your Dad and their rental properties. My Dad is at least happy to sort it out - including selling so that if he needs care we don’t face the same problem. Although the battles I’ve had prior to this, it took them a literal year to sign POA (which thank everything I did force them into). Absolutely leave him to it!

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PowderedEggs · 18/10/2026 14:34

It is possible to sell BTL with tenants in situ
via the quick method of sale via property auction.

The owner can set a minimum price for sale.

The Auction House can help with valuations & photos.

You can sell with zero tenants, but this will take longer.

PowderedEggs · 18/10/2026 14:36

Does your DM receive attendance allowance ?
If not apply, it is not means tested

ThePelican · 18/10/2026 17:54

While I understand that they can't get to make deferred payments to a nursing home based on their main residence because your father lives there, I do think they could do a conventional equity release on their main home. I completely get that they and you might not WANT to do that, but it would answer the problem of being able to access cash immediately.

Throwaway380 · 18/10/2026 19:32

PowderedEggs · 18/10/2026 14:36

Does your DM receive attendance allowance ?
If not apply, it is not means tested

She does thank you! One of her good friends used to work for Citizens Advice so sorted it out for us early on.

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Throwaway380 · 18/10/2026 19:33

PowderedEggs · 18/10/2026 14:34

It is possible to sell BTL with tenants in situ
via the quick method of sale via property auction.

The owner can set a minimum price for sale.

The Auction House can help with valuations & photos.

You can sell with zero tenants, but this will take longer.

Ooh I had not thought of this - this is worth considering! I actually feel very bad about the tenants as they’ve been there 7 years and it’s not their fault so would love to sell with them still in it.

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Throwaway380 · 18/10/2026 19:44

I don’t want to get too excited but one of the homes I saw yesterday that I thought Mum would resist she is actually OK with. Mainly because it’s nearer to home and is the next market town so she feels like she knows where she is I think.

But I really really liked it, not at all fancy like some homes, but seemed like lovely staff, proper homely feel and really listened and responded and thought of different options for Mum. Also apparently most of the carers and nurses have been there at least a couple of years which feels quite rare with care generally and is, I think, a good sign.

It’s still subject to an assessment and obviously as we learnt last week things can go wrong but I have everything crossed.

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AGoodDayToTryHard · 20/10/2026 09:54

Throwaway380 · 18/10/2026 19:44

I don’t want to get too excited but one of the homes I saw yesterday that I thought Mum would resist she is actually OK with. Mainly because it’s nearer to home and is the next market town so she feels like she knows where she is I think.

But I really really liked it, not at all fancy like some homes, but seemed like lovely staff, proper homely feel and really listened and responded and thought of different options for Mum. Also apparently most of the carers and nurses have been there at least a couple of years which feels quite rare with care generally and is, I think, a good sign.

It’s still subject to an assessment and obviously as we learnt last week things can go wrong but I have everything crossed.

That sounds really positive. Got everything crossed for you! It’s such a relief once you’re through the other side, hoping it happens soon for you x

caringcarer · 20/10/2026 10:30

A difficult situation but all you can do is give notice to tenants asap on correct form. Ring estate agents and get them to take photos and market house. They can add earliest completion will be 4 months. Can your Dad downsize to a smaller home too if just him left living there?

Throwaway380 · 23/10/2026 06:36

Mum is going in today. Still haven’t really sorted the financials, though have a couple of leads on remortgaging.

Thankfully half term doesn’t start til Monday for us, but still got to get through my DD’s birthday party on Monday.

Also hitting me how much Mum is going to hate it (nothing we can do about it sadly, and I’m not being overly negative, but it’s true). No where is going to compare to home or having a constant stream of people giving her 1-2-1 care. Sadly that was totally unsustainable and we’d all crumble so there’s no option. But I have a lot of grief about it all, which was being hidden by the stress of the previous situation.

But she is in somewhere she’ll be safe and cared for - and that’s the main thing.

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PermanentTemporary · 23/10/2026 07:27

That’s a big day. Hoping it goes well for you all 🤞

Lastknownaddress · 23/10/2026 07:59

Throwaway380 · 23/10/2026 06:36

Mum is going in today. Still haven’t really sorted the financials, though have a couple of leads on remortgaging.

Thankfully half term doesn’t start til Monday for us, but still got to get through my DD’s birthday party on Monday.

Also hitting me how much Mum is going to hate it (nothing we can do about it sadly, and I’m not being overly negative, but it’s true). No where is going to compare to home or having a constant stream of people giving her 1-2-1 care. Sadly that was totally unsustainable and we’d all crumble so there’s no option. But I have a lot of grief about it all, which was being hidden by the stress of the previous situation.

But she is in somewhere she’ll be safe and cared for - and that’s the main thing.

Thinking of you.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/10/2026 13:02

Well done for managing that. I know you must have all sorts of mixed feelings, but there really wasn’t a choice. Hugs.

Crikeyalmighty · Today 18:34

Throwaway380 · 23/10/2026 06:36

Mum is going in today. Still haven’t really sorted the financials, though have a couple of leads on remortgaging.

Thankfully half term doesn’t start til Monday for us, but still got to get through my DD’s birthday party on Monday.

Also hitting me how much Mum is going to hate it (nothing we can do about it sadly, and I’m not being overly negative, but it’s true). No where is going to compare to home or having a constant stream of people giving her 1-2-1 care. Sadly that was totally unsustainable and we’d all crumble so there’s no option. But I have a lot of grief about it all, which was being hidden by the stress of the previous situation.

But she is in somewhere she’ll be safe and cared for - and that’s the main thing.

There’s always compromise to be made - and the safe and cared for has to come first lovely x

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