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My new partner thinks I have no boundaries at bedtime with 9 year old

132 replies

Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 10:44

Hi all,

Could really do with some advice. My 9 year old really played up at bedtime when my new partner stayed over. Went up at 8.30pm. Messing around, I read a her book, but then she kept saying she was scared / heard a noise and came in twice etc. A bit of crying - but loudly so I could hear. Eventually I had to stay with her until she went to sleep around 11pm.

I am going through a tricky divorce and have got into habit of letting my daughter sleep in bed with me. She likes the new partner and they get on well and we had a great time hanging out before this.

My new partner hasn't got kids and I guess doesn't understand how they can play up from time to time. New partner thinks that I need to put boundaries in place and be more strict at bedtime. I've always been relaxed about her coming into my bed. I want the relationship to work out.

I think I might feel guilty about having a new relationship (its been a year and they met my child first 6 months ago and its been very slow / gentle introduction). We don't live together so they stay over at weekends or the odd week night only.

I think they might have a different parenting style and that I am very aware of supporting my child through all of these changes and we are very close. I am probably a bit of a pushover but she's a great kid going through a lot and dealing with it very well.

Has anyone got any experience of this? What should I do? I don't want to screw up new relationship. I don't want my child to feel pushed out...

HELP! x

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Izzynohopanda · 29/07/2024 12:26

Two things, firstly, nine year olds often play up when you have visitors.

Secondly, it’s not up to him.

RunnerDown · 29/07/2024 12:25

You do need boundaries - but not with your dd - with your dp. You need to be clear that your dd comes first and his opinion on how to parent her is unwanted and inappropriate.

Harvestmoon49 · 29/07/2024 12:24

Don't ignore that massive red flag he's showing you op!

My now dh first stayed over when my dc were 5 & 9. Dd asked if he would sleep downstairs because she felt 'funny about him being upstairs' He cheerfully slept on the sofa and continued to be guided by what made both dc feel comfortable.
This is what your dd needs and deserves. Don't settle for less.

pikkumyy77 · 29/07/2024 12:22

Its too early to play happy families. Since he doesn’t have children why not keep him as a lover, not a bf, and just have afternoons with him while she us elsewhere?

I don’t think she is the right age, and it sounds like the divorce is ongoing? To see you in a new relationship. It gives her the impression that mummies must always have a man.

NoSnowdrop · 29/07/2024 12:17

I hated it when my mum had her new boyfriend staying over. I felt uneasy and anxious.

Never ever would I listen to a man telling me how to bring up my child whether he had his own children or not. If that was enough to threaten my relationship with him I’d like to think I’d end it and prioritise my daughter.

PrincessPheebs · 29/07/2024 12:12

Your daughter is telling you she is scared. Listen to her.

It doesn’t mean your partner is a bad man (although I would personally be questioning my choices of a boyfriend of 6 months thinking he has any say over my parenting style), but it does sound like it’s too much too soon.

You have what is essentially a stranger to your daughter staying over in your house. Imagine having a stranger in your house, feeling uneasy and frightened about it and not being able to do anything. I would at the very least halt the over night stays whilst your daughter is home.

FictionalCharacter · 29/07/2024 12:05

Sorry, OP, it’s too soon for him to stay over when your DD is there, and it’s a bad sign that he’s criticising your parenting.

LBFseBrom · 29/07/2024 12:04

You do not need this man and everything moved too quickly. Your daughter is more important.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 29/07/2024 11:56

As someone whose 9 year old sounds pretty similar to yours and who, even without the difficulty of a divorce and new partner, also plays up at bedtime.... I absolutely understand how you feel and that it's hard to manage. Frankly, I also think my DD needs to be better about bedtime, but saying, "she needs more boundaries" is all very well and good but there's usually a complicated process that led to the situation as it is currently, and fixing it isn't as simple as "right, we'll do it differently now". Believe me, I know.

I'd also take it pretty badly if someone who is in my home and doesn't even have DC had such strong feelings about what I am choosing to do with my own DD.

jannier · 29/07/2024 11:54

So your daughter usually sleeps with you but presumably not if he stays over.....she must feel you've pushed her out on his nights as you don't need her .. was it her needing her or the other way around?
I don't see how you can have a man stay over until you have a bed that is only yours. Work on that first then do his sleeping over.

Lacdulancelot · 29/07/2024 11:53

My dn, also 9, told his dm when she moved them in with a new dp, far too quickly.
You don’t know him mum and I don’t know him.

Dc can be very wise at times.

TheShiningCarpet · 29/07/2024 11:47

This child does not feel safe at a very basic level in her body and in her home

please listen and act accordingly

UpThePankhurst · 29/07/2024 11:44

It took time to get to know my parent's new partner and to feel comfortable around them. It's easier in the day when you're all doing stuff together, but to close your eyes and feel safe enough to go to sleep with a stranger in the house takes time and experience for them to not be a stranger. It is very different to the comfort and safety and ability to let go all guards that you can with your parent.

Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 11:39

UpThePankhurst · 29/07/2024 11:25

Having been a child in this situation, and I was older than 9, I still vividly remember the anxiety at first of going to sleep with a stranger in the house. Particularly a stranger in my parent's bed. While they were very nice, they were my parent's trusted friend, not mine.

Thank you for this. That has really hit home. Can I ask how things played out and if you have any advice?

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WelcometoMyHovel · 29/07/2024 11:39

SnowFrogJelly · 29/07/2024 10:47

Tbh I would be annoyed if new partner tried to tell me how to parent my child especially if they don't have any themselves..

^this

rainbowsparkle28 · 29/07/2024 11:37

SnowFrogJelly · 29/07/2024 10:47

Tbh I would be annoyed if new partner tried to tell me how to parent my child especially if they don't have any themselves..

This. Your partner doesn't have a right to tell you how to parent your child. Your child is the priority and he can like it or lump it.

Gettingbysomehow · 29/07/2024 11:33

I'm nor surprised she's playing up, her whole life has been turned upside down. The divorce will have got to her, that's a huge thing for a child her age now her mother has a new partner and she's not allowed in bed with her mother when he's over.
There should not be any men over until well after the divorce is over and life is completely settled, preferably until she is in her teens.
I don't know what went on with your previous divorce but it was probably awful for her.

UpThePankhurst · 29/07/2024 11:25

Having been a child in this situation, and I was older than 9, I still vividly remember the anxiety at first of going to sleep with a stranger in the house. Particularly a stranger in my parent's bed. While they were very nice, they were my parent's trusted friend, not mine.

Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 11:25

Megifer · 29/07/2024 10:50

Throw this one back IMO. If they already feel its fine for them to tell you how to parent when they are still very much just a boyfriend/girlfriend then it will only get worse if they move in.

You need to put your DD first. I think a kid playing up at bedtime only when a boyfriend/girlfriend stays over is their way of telling you they are not happy. And she needs you while she is just a silent observer to the break up of her actual parents relationship.

Good point

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Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 11:23

SonicTheHodgeheg · 29/07/2024 10:59

If your dd likes partner then I am not surprised that she’s acting up at bedtime - she has FOMO.

Your partner is being rude giving parenting advice when he’s not even a parent.

I parented like you post divorce (and have no regrets) but it’s not compatible with having a relationship because you’re basically wanting to be flexible with dd on weekdays but strict at weekends which wouldn’t be accepted by any child. I think that you need to decide what is more important - either send the partner home by bedtime and continue to be flexible with dd or have dd on a strict schedule every night because it’s unreasonable to expect her to only have flexibility on weekdays.

All good points here

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Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 11:22

SnowFrogJelly · 29/07/2024 10:47

Tbh I would be annoyed if new partner tried to tell me how to parent my child especially if they don't have any themselves..

Thank you. Yes, this has also been in my mind

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Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 11:22

SonicTheHodgeheg · 29/07/2024 11:01

Would you want more kids in future? Take note that he thinks parenting is about boundaries and that you’d never be compatible as parents. You will be pissed off with each other for being the opposite type of parent and he will be annoyed at the child for preferring your child centred approach and think that it’s the reason for his methods not working.

This is a really good point about general attitude and beliefs around pareting

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Confuseddotcom99 · 29/07/2024 11:21

Mumoftwo1316 · 29/07/2024 10:56

Does he often give patronising lectures about stuff he knows nothing about?

Good point. I am thinking along these lines, but usually very good and supportive

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Thatsnotmynose · 29/07/2024 11:02

The last thing your DD needs, when their family has gone through significant disruption is new bloke coming in and creating boundaries with her mum.

I would ditch the bloke in your shoes. He sounds needy and annoying at a time when you need to be focused on your dad's wellbeing

SonicTheHodgeheg · 29/07/2024 11:01

Would you want more kids in future? Take note that he thinks parenting is about boundaries and that you’d never be compatible as parents. You will be pissed off with each other for being the opposite type of parent and he will be annoyed at the child for preferring your child centred approach and think that it’s the reason for his methods not working.

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