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Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3

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Desertrose2023 · 17/01/2024 14:17

Hi all

This is the third installment of the thread to highlight, discuss and raise awareness of the crimes being committed by the Israeli army on a daily basis in Palestine.

for anyone interested in reviewing the first two threads on this topic they can be found here.

thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

thread 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4956890-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture-thread-2?page=1

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture | Mumsnet

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardme...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4943089-documenting-israeli-army-racism-and-torture

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Allourkids · 09/02/2024 01:07

Hello.
Thanks for this thread.
All loss of life due to violence is deeply sad.

I don’t feel right with myself looking away and not bearing witness. I’ve seen so many horrific things these past months as a result of the violence by Hamas on the Israelis, and so much by the sustained Israeli gov and IDF attacks on Palestinians. Most days I’m reduced to tears, but what good is that in my in safe home while Palestinians suffer a sustained hell. I email my MP, march, donate, but feel absolutely useless.

All of the kind medical staff continuing to care while they wait their fate. All the perfect little tots who’ve never voted or have any kind of choice - the light of someone’s life - pulled out of dusty rubble, covered in blood, missing limbs, then wrapped in sheets, buried and dug up again by IDF diggers to just lie out on a pile of muck. I can’t bear this evil, and then people getting defensive when it’s rightly referred to as genocide.

I can’t get out of my head this child - a 4 year old boy. I remember his sad little face, in pain, with adult-like anguish as he cried quietly in a hospital bed after his house was bombed, some of his family killed and his whole lower half was severely fractured. But I was happy for him that he survived and was at least receiving care. I thought about his worried face a lot since. I saw a post last month that he survived that only to be bombed in a refugee camp in Rafah. He was wrapped in a sheet with his face out and recognisable.

He’s just one of over 13,000 kids killed by the IDF. The rest are starving, freezing, sick, injured and orphaned. It’s just evil beyond comprehension. Sustained evil.

I don’t believe in God, but I pray every night that it stops.

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 22:46

A Palestinian journalist captured the moment of an Israeli drone attack targeting an ambulance carrying wounded residents in Gaza .

This footage dates back to November 3, 2023,

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1755630828833395028

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 22:09

x.com/qudsnen/status/1755625621491679633?s=46

"Israeli soldiers from the 55 Paratroopers Brigade have recently posted videos on their unofficial community page, in which one scene reveals the deliberate targeting of an unarmed Palestinian and the destruction of entire neighborhood blocks in Gaza."

Another war crime to add to the pile.

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 20:02

https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeliforcessunleashattackkdogonn4yearroldpalestiniann_boy

"Israeli forces unleash attack dog on 4-year-old Palestinian boy"

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 17:47

Was there ever any update about the Palestinian grandmother who was shot while walking with her grandson carrying a white flag? Did the IDF ever comment on it?

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 17:22

Unsure whether this is from now or before 7-10
FEMALE PALESTINIAN JOURNALIST HECKLED BY ISRAELI FORCES

https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1755619994577117271

ConnieCounter · 08/02/2024 15:24

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 13:56

@ConnieCounter here are the MN rules about these forums. They are a bit different to what you quoted.

  • No personal attacks
  • No posts that break the law, including hate speech of any kind
  • No trolling, misleading or deliberately inflammatory behaviour
  • No trollhunting
  • No spamming
  • No multiple accounts

If you can't manage that then maybe message boards aren't for you.

So speaking about a thread topic in a thread is not a requirement of posting on a forum. That's the most ridiculous thing I've read here in a while 🤣

I'm off to the pregnancy forum to talk about the Middle East to see how that goes for me.

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 14:21

Hope this gets to icj

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture Thread 3
inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 14:09

x.com/palestinercs/status/1755545092306227596?s=46

"The Israeli occupation forces deliberately targeted the Palestine Red Crescent team while they were carrying out a coordinated humanitarian mission to evacuate a number of wounded and humanitarian cases in #Gaza, resulting in the killing of paramedic colleague Mohammed Al-Omari and injuring two others. This brings the number of colleagues killed while carrying out their humanitarian work since the beginning of the war on Gaza to 12."

anotherlevel · 08/02/2024 14:07

@Ladyjanegreysketle please see MN response in this thread:

Deliberate derailing of threads! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/4784547-deliberate-derailing-of-threads

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 13:56

@ConnieCounter here are the MN rules about these forums. They are a bit different to what you quoted.

  • No personal attacks
  • No posts that break the law, including hate speech of any kind
  • No trolling, misleading or deliberately inflammatory behaviour
  • No trollhunting
  • No spamming
  • No multiple accounts

If you can't manage that then maybe message boards aren't for you.

ConnieCounter · 08/02/2024 12:46

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inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 12:34

x.com/nournaim88/status/1755553224353087630?s=46

According to this a nurse was shot in the chest while working inside Nasser Medical Complex.

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 12:30

x.com/ajenglish/status/1755354686758998302?s=46

"Children's chants at an entertainment event in Rafah turned to screams when an Israeli bomb struck a car just meters away. At least one person was killed in the strike near a camp for forcibly displaced Palestinians in southern Gaza"

These poor children. The ones that survive these horrors will never be the same again 💔

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:27

ConnieCounter · 08/02/2024 12:18

For those of us who actually want to discuss the topic in the thread title the constant derailments by allegedly new posters posting pro-Israel/anti-Palestine nonsense that has nothing to do with the thread topic is irritating.

Maybe.

But that doesn't give anyone the right to tell others how they should behave on an open forum. That's just trying to stifle free speech.

For those that want to discuss in secret there are plenty of paid Membership Only forums for that.

"posting pro-Israel/anti-Palestine nonsense" that's only one opinion.

inkworks273 · 08/02/2024 12:26

x.com/qudsnen/status/1755365888419913779?s=46

"Israel targeted a car on Wednesday, assassinating the head of the Intervention and Law Enforcement Unit in the police in Gaza.

On Tuesday, Israel's military targeted a police car in Rafah, killing 6 policemen, who were responsible for guarding aid sent to the enclave."

ConnieCounter · 08/02/2024 12:18

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:14

So why is it up to you to tell people how/when/where and what to post?

Are you the thread police?

And it's not against any rules to have a new a/c BTW, as long as you don't have more than one at once.

For those of us who actually want to discuss the topic in the thread title the constant derailments by allegedly new posters posting pro-Israel/anti-Palestine nonsense that has nothing to do with the thread topic is irritating.

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:14

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So why is it up to you to tell people how/when/where and what to post?

Are you the thread police?

And it's not against any rules to have a new a/c BTW, as long as you don't have more than one at once.

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 12:08

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anotherlevel · 08/02/2024 12:07

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:01

@anotherlevel This is bordering Islamaphobic.

It's not. It's an animal welfare issue not a religious issue.

"for those unaware: kosher slaughter is near-indistinguishable from halal slaughter, with differences applying to the religious bits"

That is incorrect.

Looks like MN agreed as your post has been rightfully deleted for breaking guidelines.

HeidiInTheBigCity · 08/02/2024 12:05

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:01

@anotherlevel This is bordering Islamaphobic.

It's not. It's an animal welfare issue not a religious issue.

"for those unaware: kosher slaughter is near-indistinguishable from halal slaughter, with differences applying to the religious bits"

That is incorrect.

Honestly, do not go there!!!

The "ritual slaughter is animal abuse" is considered pretty antisemitic (and, Islamophobic, too - but it is an old antisemitic trope above all).

As for some factual info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_slaughter#:~:text=While%20Jewish%20kosher%20law%20allows,to%20render%20following%20procedures%20painless).

Ritual slaughter - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_slaughter#:~:text=While%20Jewish%20kosher%20law%20allows,to%20render%20following%20procedures%20painless).

EasterIssland · 08/02/2024 12:05

What you call is balance is called derailment of the thread and mn rules don’t allow it. So if you don’t want to be deleted then stay within the thread topic or your comments will be reported for derailment

you’ve got this other thread where your comments will be within the topic
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/4979715-documenting-the-horror-that-is-hamas-part-two?page=13&reply=132103094

Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:04

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Ladyjanegreysketle · 08/02/2024 12:01

@anotherlevel This is bordering Islamaphobic.

It's not. It's an animal welfare issue not a religious issue.

"for those unaware: kosher slaughter is near-indistinguishable from halal slaughter, with differences applying to the religious bits"

That is incorrect.