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What determines a name to be "chavvy" where does this come from?

43 replies

Dozymare · 06/10/2008 12:12

Is it popularity? Class? Celeb?

I am considering a name for my soon to be born DD and on a thread on this here board, saw that it had "chavvy" conotations....what is the basis of a name being "chavvy"?? Is Chavvy another word for common (common as in popular or common as in Vicky Pollard?? Is it not ok to be different as it seems to me that names that are not run of the mill are deemed in this way.....

I'm curious, please humour me!

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DontCallMeBaby · 11/10/2008 18:57

One of DD's imaginary friends is called Tallulah. We do live in Cheltenham, but are not into designer sportswear, neither do we have any associations with the Ladies' College. I'm not sure if this proves anything - after all, while DD is a middle-class, Boden*-wearing 4yo, I'm not sure that Tallulah is. I don't even know if she's human.

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soon2be3 · 11/10/2008 18:51

I am 26% Chav according to that survey....

The name Tallulah reminds me of the school play "Bugsy Malone", hence why I am not keen on the name.

nuthacuppatea · 11/10/2008 09:54

I started the thread on Tallulah / Eden choice and have decided on Tallulah. It is the loveliest name and although I was momentarily worried about the C connotations when I read the other thread on Tallulah I have since realised that it only seems to be on MN that I have heard these. Most other people i know love the name and had already started calling my bump Tallulah before I had finished making my choice. We love it because it is so pretty and is NOT a common name. As for the chav thing,I am sure there are many more chavs who call there children Ellie, Molly, Olivia etc (I know...I teach some!) and you don't hear people go on about these names. They seem popular with all. It's not the name that determines the child!

ThinWhiteDuchess · 08/10/2008 21:39

I scored 18%....what's wrong with calling a settee a settee ffs?? I was always told by my (very middle class) parents to never call it a sofa (or God forbid) a couch.

Talluhah is a very cute name btw.

HRHSaintMamazon · 08/10/2008 21:31

sadly so do i, and a Carling

nooOOOoonki · 08/10/2008 21:28

oh mama I know a chardonnay and a pepsi!

MaloryDontDiveItsShallow · 08/10/2008 21:19

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retiredgoth · 08/10/2008 21:17

.....I wish I had heard HRHsaintmamazon's sage advice prior to naming my son Toilet Duck.

Ah well......

HRHSaintMamazon · 08/10/2008 21:12

If you like the name then use it.

but yes there are some names that no matter how lovely i think they are, i imagine a legging clad woman with a baggy sweatshirt and huge hoop earings shouting it down the street with a fag in hand.

The thing is, if a name is pretty then people will like it. unfortunately us working class folk have access to babay name books to and we also see these pretty nam,es and chose them for our children.

My own rule of thumb is this, if there is a product out that has the same name then think twice about it....so chardonnay/pepsi/carling etc are not wise choices

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 08/10/2008 21:10

31% chav

whats wrong with Majorca??

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 08/10/2008 21:06

Well I come across some real corkers in my job but this week its been

Rambo

and

Tarzan

tis true

cthea · 08/10/2008 21:05

Our Dd2 has the same name as a minor celebrity's daughter. No one who knows us would possibly think we'd named her after said celeb. If anyone thinks we did, they can't know us, hence their opinion doesn't matter anyway. It's a pretty name and has been around for ages.

strawberrycornetto · 08/10/2008 20:58

11% chav, 50% EMO according to that website

retiredgoth · 08/10/2008 20:57

....er, and mistakenly posted both versions of my unfunny post.

Apologies!

retiredgoth · 08/10/2008 20:55

....I concur that stereotyping social class is always tired, lazy, and indicative of a lack of empathy and imagination. Doubly so when applied to names...

However it is also very funny.

I for one have never allowed my lazy, unimaginative nature to get in the way of a cheap laugh.

....and I offer to purchase and consume any nominated headgear (with or without condiments) should anyone be able to nominate a Konnor, Chardonnay-Storm, or Karley to have taken part in (say) the Henley Regatta....

PS Very taken by "Diamond-Lee". Even funnier for being androgynous.....

TillyScoutsmum · 08/10/2008 20:45

It was a girl - and was said in a very broad Dudloooiiy accent. Awful

Hulababy · 08/10/2008 20:43

13% apparently.

I do think some names have connetations behind them, and people will make assumptions about them.

However, it is all subjective - what one person finds common and not so nice, another group will like.

And some people will refer to a name as "chav" or "common" simply because they have become popular and well used; even where children were named that before they were as popular.

retiredgoth · 08/10/2008 20:37

.....I scored 22%.

Must confess to cheating, though. The question asks about holidays in Majorca/Minorca. I answered "No!"

....everyone knows they are spelt Mallorca/Menorca.

Ahem.

AbstractMouse · 08/10/2008 20:33

Yay 30% chav, god knows what the other 70% is (embarrassed at answering yes to the trisha question).

Are the chavvy connections likely to remain connected? If it's the same as some z list celebs' sprog for example it's unlikely to be associated with that in future. If you like it go for it, sod em i say.

retiredgoth · 08/10/2008 20:29

.....I concur that class sterotyping (whether by name choice or otherwise) is lazy, and displays a distinct lack of imagination and empathy on the part of those who employ it.

However, it is also very funny. I for one have never allowed my laziness or lack of imagination to interfere with a cheap laugh.....

.....and however "nice" it may sound to say that certain names do not (sometimes) have social connotations it is, sadly, untrue.

I will willingly purchase and eat headgear of anyone's nomination if they can cite me an example of a Karley, Chardonnay-Storm or Konnor who has taken part in (say) the Henley Regatta.....

(PS Diamond-Lee. That's a cracker! All the better for the androgyny)

TillyScoutsmum · 08/10/2008 20:04

Well - I don't normally "get" the chav thing but I did hear a name being shouted after a toddler today and I would think it defines chav (and sorry to be judgey judgey). It was......

Diamond-Lee

BabyBaby123 · 08/10/2008 19:58

I am 43% chav according to that!

am i bovvered?? lol

AuntieMaggie · 08/10/2008 19:40

According to that quiz I am a chav cos I buy own brand stuff, use money off coupons and call my grandmother nan!!!

Hmmm... not sure where the term comes from but is definitely overused to describe things people don't like or don't agree with.

matildax · 08/10/2008 19:35

in newcastle 'they' are known as charvas. the word charva is apparently a old romany name, from the gypsys,

we have been saying the word charva for a lot longer than the new updated version of chav.

tbh i think its a horrid word, and i think whoever posted that it means council housed and violent, is very presumptious. [sp]
i live in ch, and to my knowledge so do loads of 'normal' working people.

people should get to know people before handing out labels.

MonkeyMargot · 08/10/2008 19:34

Dozy - Tallulah is most definitely NOT a "chavvy" name. We have friends with a Tallulah - they are the polar opposite.

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