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Sorrel or Manon

108 replies

RoseApp · 28/08/2026 19:10

Wondered if anyone knew anyone with these names and what they think of them

Sorrel, Elowen, Manon (pronounced Welsh way.

Two syllable surname.

Also what goes well as a middle name. Family names don’t really suit and have been used apart from Mai (pronounced My)

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AelinoftheWildfire · 30/08/2026 23:32

Crashthepot · 30/08/2026 21:10

I stand shamed in my lackluster TOG knowledge 😅

(Currently wading through a CC re-read which I'm not really enjoying but feel like it will be helpful to be fresh on the plot!)

I have an unhealthy attachment to TOG so no shame 🤣

At that's a shame you're not enjoying your CC re-read, although in fairness I feel that series definitely peaked at book 1

Crashthepot · 30/08/2026 21:10

AelinoftheWildfire · 30/08/2026 18:00

Sorrel is one of the Thirteen too, but I never noticed the Suriel sounds similar!
Maybe we will find out if there's a reason for it in October 😏🤣

I stand shamed in my lackluster TOG knowledge 😅

(Currently wading through a CC re-read which I'm not really enjoying but feel like it will be helpful to be fresh on the plot!)

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 30/08/2026 18:04

I like Sorrel.

Manon I'm just not keen on and Elowen is going to persistently be asked 'are your parents Lord of the Rings fans?'

AelinoftheWildfire · 30/08/2026 18:00

Crashthepot · 30/08/2026 08:49

Any other SJM fans thinking of Manon, the Surriel and Elain? 😅

Edit- read more PP comments after posting this - see that I'm not alone!

Edited

Sorrel is one of the Thirteen too, but I never noticed the Suriel sounds similar!
Maybe we will find out if there's a reason for it in October 😏🤣

HudALledrith · 30/08/2026 11:10

@snoopydoopydo ,you're welcome.

snoopydoopydo · 30/08/2026 09:55

HudALledrith · 30/08/2026 09:05

Manon des Sources.

Thanks for correcting my typo. Not sure how anyone would have managed to comprehend my post without your input.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/08/2026 09:13

This is how you should NOT say Manon in Welsh. The English presenter calls her ManUN instead of Manon with the 'o' in 'of'.
She also pronounces Steffan as Steffun.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/08/2026 09:10

French pronunciation here: Pronunciation
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Manon - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

Gwenhwyfar · 30/08/2026 09:07

Vaguelyclassical · 28/08/2026 19:23

How does the Welsh pronunciation of Manon differ from the French pronunciation?

In French the ending is nasal.

HudALledrith · 30/08/2026 09:05

snoopydoopydo · 30/08/2026 08:55

They are all lovely names. I really like Manon, always makes me think of the wonderful film Manon de Sources.

Manon des Sources.

iloveanearlynight · 30/08/2026 08:56

I should've added that I like the middle name Fay or Faith. Sorrel Faith.

How about Hebe, Cassia or Damaris as other first names OP?

snoopydoopydo · 30/08/2026 08:55

They are all lovely names. I really like Manon, always makes me think of the wonderful film Manon de Sources.

iloveanearlynight · 30/08/2026 08:52

Sorrel is fabulous and what a breath of fresh air to see. I do like Manon but not Elowen, as I just think of the letters LON. Lowenna is a nice alternative.

Crashthepot · 30/08/2026 08:49

Any other SJM fans thinking of Manon, the Surriel and Elain? 😅

Edit- read more PP comments after posting this - see that I'm not alone!

HudALledrith · 30/08/2026 08:45

The language was Sindarin.

Yestothis · 30/08/2026 03:27

HudALledrith · 29/08/2026 16:42

Can't really do anything about Welsh names sounding like Lord of the Rings when Tolkien used Welsh for one of his main fantasy languages.
He used the grammar and phonology as a base for a fantasy language.

That's what I meant, sorry. I can see it looks as if I was saying he used Welsh directly, now you quote it!

HudALledrith · 29/08/2026 16:42

Can't really do anything about Welsh names sounding like Lord of the Rings when Tolkien used Welsh for one of his main fantasy languages.
He used the grammar and phonology as a base for a fantasy language.

Yestothis · 29/08/2026 16:36

Can't really do anything about Welsh names sounding like Lord of the Rings when Tolkien used Welsh for one of his main fantasy languages.

I like them all. Elowyn does make me think of the Black Cauldron too but I think that's quite an obscure reference these days. Manon sounds great so long as people aren't attempting a French n. Sorrel is lovely - I also have the Noel Streatfeild association there, and it's a good one.

Cotopaxi · 29/08/2026 16:27

DancingFerret · 29/08/2026 00:03

Manon (After the ballet?)

Crikey, I hope not! 😂

HudALledrith · 29/08/2026 12:44

HudALledrith · 29/08/2026 10:59

How is Aelin pronounced please?

Looked it up and it said AY-lin or EL-in.

HudALledrith · 29/08/2026 10:59

Herewegoagainno3 · 29/08/2026 09:51

This is exactly what I thought as I’m currently reading that series 😂 although I like the name Aelin.

How is Aelin pronounced please?

AelinoftheWildfire · 29/08/2026 10:22

Herewegoagainno3 · 29/08/2026 09:51

This is exactly what I thought as I’m currently reading that series 😂 although I like the name Aelin.

I tried to convince DH to let me call DD1 Aelin but he said people would call her alien 🤣

Herewegoagainno3 · 29/08/2026 09:51

AelinoftheWildfire · 28/08/2026 22:00

I'm hoping these are Throne of Glass inspired otherwise my suggestion of Asterin is going to seem off 🤣
Personally of the two I'd say Manon, but only if it's pronounced correctly

This is exactly what I thought as I’m currently reading that series 😂 although I like the name Aelin.

Notellinganyone · 29/08/2026 09:38

I love Sorrell.

HudALledrith · 29/08/2026 09:36

>>> Boring reply warning <<<

@Pieceofpurplesky , seeing as you asked, your transcription suggested that the French pronunciation was Ma-NUHN. in French it's Man-on on a French sound you don't get in English, syllables stressed equally. You know how your relative says it, we don't.
I've no idea how you say non - I say it to rhyme with gone but some say it to rhyme with none.
In both, the first n is in the first syllable not the second (like in candy, manor or Chanel)

The Welsh name Manon is popular and there are plenty of them (e.g. Manon Steffan Ros, who is the sort of age I'd expect a Manon to be - somewhere between about 30 and 60). The name is pronounced MAN-on, with on rhyming with gone.

I expect non-Welsh speakers would say it as MAN-un.

Appreciate that I'm being picky, but the syllable split and stress makes a difference in Welsh names.
I'm not Cornish, but Welsh and Cornish are sibling languages. Elowen is Eh-LOW-enn, I believe, OW like in Owen.
Change the syllable split and stress and it becomes EL-ow-in.