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Donald or Donalbain

210 replies

Wildflowersweet · 08/01/2026 12:26

Again, two classic Scottish names. Donalbain is the name of a much beloved uncle we lost during Covid so is close to my heart. Donald is more common. Both I like.

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LemaxObsessive · 10/01/2026 11:38

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Ell099 · 10/01/2026 11:36

Call your son what you like, however Donald/Donalbain still seem to be “old fashioned” names without coming back into popularity like some other classic names. How about Murray, Lewis, Cameron, Angus?

Marcipix · 10/01/2026 11:33

Wildflowersweet · 08/01/2026 14:24

So all those people saying to not use Donald because of Trump would also advise not to use Andrew or Jeffrey because of Jeffery Epstein or Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor? Never use Jimmy because of Jimmy Saville? Come on, folks. Where do you draw the line? It’s a classic name that has served a lot of Scottish men over time. Nothing wrong with it. Examine your wee, prejudiced heads.

You are right, I would not use Andrew, Jeffrey, Jimmy, for exactly those reasons.

I have no idea how to pronounce Donalbain. Could you help with that please?

LeChiffre26 · 10/01/2026 11:25

I tend to think of " Donald where's yur troosers" as opposed to Trump ☺️ Let the wind blow high , let the wind blow low...😂

HugoYorway · 10/01/2026 11:21

In 2024, the same number of baby boys were registered as Donald and Keir.
And Damian.Smile

Spinnylights · 10/01/2026 11:15

I had a wee look at the statistics (Scotlandspeople website)

2000 - Donald was used 163 times, 32 times as a first name and 131 as a middle name
2010 - 160 times, again more popular as a middle name than a first.
2020 - 135 times, with the balance tipping further towards middle name.
2024 -126 times, but only 14 of those were first names.

My reading of that is that there hasn't been much change in the number of Scottish parents who like the name, or who want to name after a grandfather, but they are wary of using it as a first name. The number using it overall has dropped by about a quarter, but the number using it as a first name has more than halved.

Spinnylights · 10/01/2026 10:55

I'm Scottish and I would hesitate to use Donald because who knows what he's going to do next?

I've never met a Donalbain, but I wouldn't blink if I did, especially as it's a family name.

Go for Murray Donalbain - sounds great!

HugoYorway · 10/01/2026 10:33

Piglet89 · 10/01/2026 07:42

What about “Donaldo”? Like everyone’s favourite moral-fibre footballer, but with a Scottish vibe?

Genius. Donaldino would be even better - plenty of potential 'nicknames'.

scottishGirl · 10/01/2026 10:03

I'm a 33 year Scot and have never met a Donald... I would associate it with older men. I agree with others and personally wouldn't consider it for a child in these times.

But I've also never heard of Donalbain...is it a West coast name? I'm NE Scotland.

Piglet89 · 10/01/2026 07:42

What about “Donaldo”? Like everyone’s favourite moral-fibre footballer, but with a Scottish vibe?

OhBuggerandArse · 09/01/2026 20:06

For those who are enjoying the stats here is the raw file for all Scottish baby names since 1974. It is quite absorbing so don't open it unless you want to waste a lot of time! https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/media/mbmjzs2q/full-list-1974-2023.csv

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/media/mbmjzs2q/full-list-1974-2023.csv

Zigazagbox · 09/01/2026 19:53

GoldDuster · 09/01/2026 16:35

Out of interest, I've just Googled how popular Baby Donalds are in Scotland, I'm not familiar.

in 2017 there were 7 registered baby Donalds. Not massively popular any more, for some reason.

There were 7 in 2024 as well, so not unheard of but not exactly common either.
There were 70 something born the same year as my youngest with the same name as him and people remark on how unusual it is. It’s a classic scottish name too.

www.nrscotland.gov.uk/publications/babies-first-names-2024/

Blueuggboots · 09/01/2026 19:52

Murdoch.

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Theyreeatingthedogs · 09/01/2026 18:29

I hate the orange monster but he wouldn't put me off the name Donald. The orange thing will be gone by the time the child starts school and the orange thing will be forgotten.

mazzikid · 09/01/2026 17:32

I love Donalbain! I'm not Scottish but I know it's classic, and I always enjoy a Shakespearean connection too. I also really like Murray, from your other options, as well as Magnus. But for the family connection, Donalbain or Murray!

(I also don't see as big an issue with Donald as many here, the comparisons to Adolf seem strange because how many English or Scottish people knew of an Adolf before Adolf Hitler? As you're in Scotland, the name is traditional and not uncommon, so the singular connotation won't be as strong. Even I know a few Donalds, older though they may be, so I don't associate the name solely with Trump! I just don't like it as much as your other name suggestions)

hobbledyhoy · 09/01/2026 17:04

Wildflowersweet · 09/01/2026 15:39

Well, Kate, since I live in Scotland, and have no intention of moving anytime soon, and as other Scottish people have noted on this thread, nobody will bat an eyelid if they hear the name Donald. By the time my son grows up and plans to study abroad or travel the world, Donald Trump will be dead, and any negative association will be dead. Problem solved.

Yeah I wouldn’t be confident that Trump will be forgotten so quickly.

AgnesMcDoo · 09/01/2026 16:55

I loathe Trump.

bit he’s not even close to the level of evil that was Hitler.

LeChiffre26 · 09/01/2026 16:52

On Scotland's People there are 4,878,499 records with the name Donald . There are 0 for Donalbain.

GoldDuster · 09/01/2026 16:35

Out of interest, I've just Googled how popular Baby Donalds are in Scotland, I'm not familiar.

in 2017 there were 7 registered baby Donalds. Not massively popular any more, for some reason.

GoldDuster · 09/01/2026 16:32

drspouse · 09/01/2026 16:22

There are quite a lot of Adolfs in their 80s/90s I believe. Likewise many 10+ year olds who are Osama.
Trump will fade (unlike Adolf, he only has a couple more years in power) but your Donald will be one of many in Scotland in this era.
I have a DC with a rare family first name that's the same as a 20th century politician who isn't much liked but it's a family name and zero people have asked if we thought twice due to said politician.

Well no, zero people have asked you why you chose that name, because social norms, but they've most definitely thought it. Horses for courses. I just don't see why, when there is a choice of literally anything you want, you'd choose something with an obvious negative connotation.

drspouse · 09/01/2026 16:22

GoldDuster · 08/01/2026 14:33

I doubt he was the only Adolf in the village, but it soon died out.

Association can apply without prejudice.

There are quite a lot of Adolfs in their 80s/90s I believe. Likewise many 10+ year olds who are Osama.
Trump will fade (unlike Adolf, he only has a couple more years in power) but your Donald will be one of many in Scotland in this era.
I have a DC with a rare family first name that's the same as a 20th century politician who isn't much liked but it's a family name and zero people have asked if we thought twice due to said politician.

CoffeeAndPretzels · 09/01/2026 16:17

GoldDuster · 09/01/2026 13:05

Ok, and that's great. But if you also had an Uncle MacBeth in every generation it wouldn't make it a common name. Other than in your family. The name Donalbain is unheard of outside of your orbit. The views you're getting on it are because not everyone knows your family. It's "a" name. There are thousands of others, you get to choose. Your child will not remain in your bubble where everyone has an Uncle Donalbain.

I could have an Auntie Frenulum in every generation going back to the Tudors, but it woudln't make it any less unusual in a wider sense. Surely you understand that it's not sneering, but perspective? Which you wanted, and that's why you posted?

Agree with this. The OP had a similar post last week and was similarly rather combative towards any posters who dared suggest the names were unusual.

OP, for what it's worth, I'm from the Hebrides and have a Donald in every generation of my family going back a long time. I love the name and don't associated with DJT so would say fire away. However, I have never come across a Donalbain (outwith the play), a Tully or a Beare. Doesn't make me any less Scottish than you!

Edited as posted too soon.

HugoYorway · 09/01/2026 15:55

By the time my son grows up and plans to study abroad or travel the world, Donald Trump will be dead, and any negative association will be dead. Problem solved.
I wouldn't count on that.