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Emrys?

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allmylifelong · 27/12/2024 20:14

We’re expecting our first on NYE and still aren’t 100% on a boys name. Our favourite at the minute is Emrys, possibly with Alasdair as a middle name.
Wdyt?

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NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 19:07

He may well get called Emrys Al or Em Al by his mates, but back in my day, it was Dylan Mawr, Dylan Bach, Dylan Tew ...Grin

allmylifelong · 28/12/2024 19:03

NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 18:42

Llwyd is used more as a middle name. e.g, actress A- Llwyd's father was E- Lloyd Jones, and her daughter is G- Llwyd Beech. A-'s mother was L- Owen.

Presumably the Beech is from G-'s father. Beech in Welsh is a feminine noun not normally used as a first name.

That sort of naming pattern is common. I'd have expected the middle name Lloyd or maternal Owen surname to be carried as a middle name, and using the Welsh form is not unusual.

A- and G- appear as popular characters in a Welsh soap opera. I've blanked the name a bit as they are identifiable and might not want their details on here.

On the subject of surnames and soap operas, a recent half-hour episode of a different soap opera had in the cast list 3 actors called Rhys ap [Man's name].
I think Rhys has been so popular for so long that it's tailed off a bit.

The ap [Man's name] is not that popular, and might be Dad's name or from the surname. A man called something like Bryn Owen Jones might call his son Emrys ap Bryn, Emrys ap Siôn, Emrys Bryn, Emrys Siôn, Emrys Owain Jones etc. The naming for girls is slightly different.

Many Welsh tv stars go by their first names and middle names, and the middle names tend to go in trends. (cf. Paloma Faith, Robert Lindsay, neither of whom are Welsh)

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Of course you can use Emrys Alasdair, @allmylifelong .

This is really interesting thank you!.

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NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 18:42

Llwyd is used more as a middle name. e.g, actress A- Llwyd's father was E- Lloyd Jones, and her daughter is G- Llwyd Beech. A-'s mother was L- Owen.

Presumably the Beech is from G-'s father. Beech in Welsh is a feminine noun not normally used as a first name.

That sort of naming pattern is common. I'd have expected the middle name Lloyd or maternal Owen surname to be carried as a middle name, and using the Welsh form is not unusual.

A- and G- appear as popular characters in a Welsh soap opera. I've blanked the name a bit as they are identifiable and might not want their details on here.

On the subject of surnames and soap operas, a recent half-hour episode of a different soap opera had in the cast list 3 actors called Rhys ap [Man's name].
I think Rhys has been so popular for so long that it's tailed off a bit.

The ap [Man's name] is not that popular, and might be Dad's name or from the surname. A man called something like Bryn Owen Jones might call his son Emrys ap Bryn, Emrys ap Siôn, Emrys Bryn, Emrys Siôn, Emrys Owain Jones etc. The naming for girls is slightly different.

Many Welsh tv stars go by their first names and middle names, and the middle names tend to go in trends. (cf. Paloma Faith, Robert Lindsay, neither of whom are Welsh)

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Of course you can use Emrys Alasdair, @allmylifelong .

Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 28/12/2024 18:00

Love it.

RosesAndHellebores · 28/12/2024 17:55

Another vote for Merlin here.
I also like Gawain and Hywel.
I don't think you can use Emrys and Alasdair together although I like both names.

Dithercats · 28/12/2024 17:53

Popular where we live at the moment.
Lovely name.

NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 17:51

@JC03745 EM-riss

JC03745 · 28/12/2024 17:05

How is it pronounced?
Em-Ris
Em-Rees
Or some other way?

Zonder · 28/12/2024 17:02

BestIsWest · 28/12/2024 11:47

Lloyd is anglicised version of llwyd meaning grey. It’s lost the correct double L pronunciation. Still a very common Welsh surname.

Emrys is a lovely name.

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That's interesting. I've seen the name Llwyd before but don't know any. Two of the Lloyds we do know are Welsh first language.

allmylifelong · 28/12/2024 15:08

It sounds generally positive!. I think we have decided on Emrys. Our girls name has already been decided on too, so it’s just a waiting game now!.
I’m not bothered about the names matching, as long as the sounds don’t clash. They’re both just names that we like.

@NefiBlw We have a double barrelled surname, but one of the names (my surname) is Jones😂. The other surname is a bit more uncommon thankfully!.

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NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 12:34

@Zonder , Llwyd. As a pp said, it means grey.
I know a few but not many Lloyds, but plenty with it as a middle name or surname.
Llywelyn (or sometimes Llewelyn) is OK but Llewellyn looks wrong because LL is a letter in Welsh and isn't two Ls. 'Lou-Ellin' is awful.

I wouldn't worry too much about the first and middle names matching, but if you are in Wales (and with a common surname e.g Jones), there's a strong likelihood of him being referred to as 'Emrys Middlename'.

MumChp · 28/12/2024 11:50

Very nice!

CrushingOnRubies · 28/12/2024 11:50

Not keen in Cornwall it sounds like a heavy duty mineral processing centre

BestIsWest · 28/12/2024 11:47

Lloyd is anglicised version of llwyd meaning grey. It’s lost the correct double L pronunciation. Still a very common Welsh surname.

Emrys is a lovely name.

Sk1sk0 · 28/12/2024 11:43

Love it

Zonder · 28/12/2024 10:54

NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 08:53

I'm not that keen on it either but it's OK.
Lloyd is an anglicised Welsh name, but I like it.
Llewellyn is awful, but Llywelyn is great.
Rhys is a good name but I dislike it said as Reece.

Lloyd is an anglicised Welsh name? What is it an anglicised version of? We have a few Lloyds on the Welsh side of our family and friends.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 28/12/2024 09:59

I am find if Emrys, but I have a Welsh nephew be this name.

I love Alasdair, that spelling in particular.

I'm not sure that Emrys and Alasdair sit comfortably together though, unless you have both Welsh and Scottish heritage that you want to incorporate..

NefiBlw · 28/12/2024 08:53

I'm not that keen on it either but it's OK.
Lloyd is an anglicised Welsh name, but I like it.
Llewellyn is awful, but Llywelyn is great.
Rhys is a good name but I dislike it said as Reece.

DulciUke · 28/12/2024 06:28

Never had kids but Emrys was my top pick for a boys name if I ever had one.

user1492757084 · 28/12/2024 05:11

I'm not keen on Emrys.

I love Alasdair

Other ideas ..
Lloyd Alasdair
Alasdair Llewellyn
Rhys Alasdair

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 27/12/2024 22:32

Gorgeous name - very romantic sounding to me. I would assume a strong Welsh connection though, as I rarely hear it outside of Wales (so if you don’t live here he might regularly have to explain how to spell it, but at least the pronunciation seems fairly clear to English speakers, unlike with some other Welsh names). Seems to be gaining popularity in my corner of N. Wales with youngsters - I’ve met a few young Emrys over the last few years.

allmylifelong · 27/12/2024 21:21

I’m not Welsh, but my family are. Seems like general consensus is that it’s good, I also do love the Merlin connection.

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Clingfilm · 27/12/2024 21:01

Do it! Lush name. Ems for short.

ThePoshUns · 27/12/2024 20:50

Love it . I had a great uncle Emrys, he was a lovely man.

Zonder · 27/12/2024 20:49

Kenclucky · 27/12/2024 20:39

Merlin! :) love it, brilliant name and not hard to pronounce

That's funny, I had two great uncles called Emrys and Merlin. I love both names.

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