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Rioghán

108 replies

Babyboyno2 · 05/09/2024 14:31

Got this into my top 3. Just curious of how people would pronounce it, is it “REE-ON”

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Coffeeatthelocalmarket · 06/09/2024 09:30

@KirstenBlest
I've never come across anyone called it, though I do know a Ríonach or two (meaning queenly, older spelling Ríoghnach). I also know a Ríona, which could be considered a short form of Ríonach or Caitríona.

One issue with Ríoghan for a girl is that it'll get confused with Rian/Rían from a sound pov.

KirstenBlest · 06/09/2024 09:07

@Coffeeatthelocalmarket , it's nice. For a girl, obviously Smile. Thanks.

Coffeeatthelocalmarket · 06/09/2024 09:05

Oops, just noticed a typo.
Morrigan is Mór-Ríoghain or Mór-Ríoghan.
I forgot to include the h in the previous post.

Coffeeatthelocalmarket · 06/09/2024 08:48

Ríoghan is Ree-an btw.

Coffeeatthelocalmarket · 06/09/2024 08:39

Babyboyno2 · 05/09/2024 19:20

Was for naming a boy

It's a girls name though. It means queen.

I've never met anyone with the name, but I think the fada should be on the i and not on the a, so spelling is Ríoghan or Ríoghain, equivalent to Ríon. 'An' at the end of a name does usually have a fada, but the derivation seems to be different in this case.

The Morrigan, goddess of war and fate, foreteller of death, is Mór-Ríogain in Irish. Usually translated as great queen though the etymology is controversial. (Mór may not be great/big, but instead be derived from a word equivalent to mare, meaning terror, as in nightmare. Scary in any case.)

As others have said the similar sounding Rian might be better for a boy. Rian doesn't need a fada on the i though many use it. Many associate it with king (rí) but in fact it is so old the meaning has been lost.

Rory17384949 · 06/09/2024 08:08

It's a lovely name but unless you live in Ireland you're setting them up for a lifetime of correcting pronunciation and being asked how to say their name.... I wouldn't do it tbh

Taytocrisps · 06/09/2024 07:08

I'm Irish and I've never come across it before. I'd take a stab at Ree-awn.

xyz111 · 06/09/2024 07:03

I'd have no idea how to pronounce that

BarbaraHoward · 06/09/2024 06:54

Betterthanitseems · 06/09/2024 06:44

I'm irish too snd hsve noticed the difference in pronouncing names and words in general. However ulster hsve their own irish dialect so I wouldn't say they are howlers...just different pronunciation. Just like the difference in the English language between the 4 provinces too - especially between ulster snd the rest

I'm not talking dialect, I'm talking a lack of understanding of the language (reasonable given most don't learn it to any real extent). Fadas, fadas everywhere. And as many extra consonants as possible. The worst I've come across off the top of my head is Déarbhíle, who also gave her DC an incorrectly spelled Irish name but I can't remember what it was.

Betterthanitseems · 06/09/2024 06:44

BarbaraHoward · 05/09/2024 17:12

I'm Irish and have never seen it before, but would guess Ree-awn (and would also guess that there should be a fada on the i).

There's lots of lovely Irish names out there, if you're not familiar do check them. I'm from Dublin and live in NI and have come across some howlers as people just don't have the knowledge of the language.

I'm irish too snd hsve noticed the difference in pronouncing names and words in general. However ulster hsve their own irish dialect so I wouldn't say they are howlers...just different pronunciation. Just like the difference in the English language between the 4 provinces too - especially between ulster snd the rest

BeautyPageantDropout · 06/09/2024 00:27

stanleypops66 · 05/09/2024 18:18

In NI it should be fine. It's not overly popular but lovely.

It's pronounced Ree-awn anytime I've heard it.

Might be controversial but you get some kerrazzzyy spellings of Irish names in NI. Great that they're enthusiastic about the language, but would be better if they adhered to actual spelling rules. For example; fadas aren't just for decorative purposes! Who knew...

BeautyPageantDropout · 06/09/2024 00:24

Looks like a made up name masquerading as an old Irish name. I'd pronounce it ree-awn and smile politely

KateDelRick · 06/09/2024 00:04

HungryLittleCrocodile · 05/09/2024 22:54

Why did they pronounce the name See-Ban?! Shock

I think they must have seen it written and didn't connect. So strange, parents were told and they were surprised.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 05/09/2024 22:55

Babyboyno2 · 05/09/2024 17:32

Thanks all, don’t want anything complicated so guess I’ll just have to rethink

Very wise I think!

KirstenBlest · 05/09/2024 22:54

@Psychologymam , I have no wish whatsoever to change it. My name is not Anglo-Saxon.
My name has more than one sound in it that does not appear in English. One of the names has a non-standard character in it.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 05/09/2024 22:54

KateDelRick · 05/09/2024 22:31

I recently came across a Siobhan pronounced See-ban by the parents. I always thought it a fairly common name.
I have no idea how you'd pronounce the name, OP.

Why did they pronounce the name See-Ban?! Shock

Psychologymam · 05/09/2024 22:51

KirstenBlest · 05/09/2024 22:41

@Psychologymam , in fact, how dare you tell me that it is bizarre of me to think
It’s really not up to you to decide if people’s names are okay or not - how bizarre that you’d think that! when the people's name is my own.

You have no idea what my name is or how it is said, or how it is spelt. If you saw it you'd probably have no idea, and unless you spoke those languages, if you heard it you'd probably not get it right, unless you were familiar with the sounds.
Not all characters always print unless you insert special characters.

I’m really confused - you have every right to think what you like about your own name - in fact you can change it should you wish (it’s an option) but I do dare to tell you that it’s disrespectful to judge others names. However, it sounds like you feel very passionately that everyone should have Anglo Saxon names and I feel like engaging in this discussion won’t benefit either of us - hence my earlier point that it’s a handy way of figuring out if you wish to engage at length with someone.

coffeeandascarf · 05/09/2024 22:42

Re-oh-gain, makes me think of a hair growth drug. I would know it was Irish and ask how to say it correctly though.

KirstenBlest · 05/09/2024 22:41

@Psychologymam , in fact, how dare you tell me that it is bizarre of me to think
It’s really not up to you to decide if people’s names are okay or not - how bizarre that you’d think that! when the people's name is my own.

You have no idea what my name is or how it is said, or how it is spelt. If you saw it you'd probably have no idea, and unless you spoke those languages, if you heard it you'd probably not get it right, unless you were familiar with the sounds.
Not all characters always print unless you insert special characters.

Ihavesomeideas · 05/09/2024 22:39

Babyboyno2 · 05/09/2024 15:45

I love the “ree-on” after googling a few more ideas “Rion” never heard of it before has anyone?

Ree-on sounds like Riona .It's also very close to Rian .

FinallyYouSaid · 05/09/2024 22:34

As a non-Irish pronouncer I'd have given it a bash as either Ree-oh-han or Row-han.

Theirishwoman · 05/09/2024 22:33

HungryLittleCrocodile · 05/09/2024 14:55

I have to admit, even though my husband is Irish, we would never, ever give a child a 'traditional Irish name' that's spelt and pronounced unusually. You're just setting them up for a life of never having their name pronounced or spelt properly... Just my opinion.

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Edited

I’m someone with a very unusual rare Irish name and generally when I introduce myself people listen to how I pronounce my name and then pronounce it that way too. It’s really not that complicated.

I love having an unusual name.

mathanxiety · 05/09/2024 22:32

And I've never seen the name before...

mathanxiety · 05/09/2024 22:31

BarbaraHoward · 05/09/2024 17:12

I'm Irish and have never seen it before, but would guess Ree-awn (and would also guess that there should be a fada on the i).

There's lots of lovely Irish names out there, if you're not familiar do check them. I'm from Dublin and live in NI and have come across some howlers as people just don't have the knowledge of the language.

Yes to the pronunciation and fada. Also the howlers.

Rian is much nicer for a boy imo.

Or Ruadhan (fada on last A).

KateDelRick · 05/09/2024 22:31

I recently came across a Siobhan pronounced See-ban by the parents. I always thought it a fairly common name.
I have no idea how you'd pronounce the name, OP.