Children being allowed to go to the toilet at school

Unless he had medical issues, a 12 year old shoild be able to plan a toilet visit in scheduled breaks.

Not saying I agree with the school’s policy but I was at high school in the late 90s/early 00s and our toilets were locked during lesson time. You had to take a pass to the main office to get a key then return it. So this isn’t a new thing.

The curriculum is much more difficult and demanding and a significant number of students use toilet trips to avoid lessons.

Then there is the vandalism, bullying, vaping, sexual activity and sexual assault.

The teacher to student to ratio has fallen meaning there is no-one spare to supervise the loos or patrol the corridors.

No teacher ever went into teaching to prevent students going to the loo!

So because a small minority misbehave you punish everyone with draconian measures instead of just those who do this?

Yeah schools have gotten really weird about toilet breaks. It's age discrimination but schools are exempt from being sued for this. In what world is it okay to prevent someone from going to the toilet??

We spent a hundred thousand refurbing our Victorian toilet blocks - they're now closed again thanks to kids ripping the fixtures out of the walls and shitting on the floor, amongst other things.

So yes, our toilets are kept locked.

It sounds like your school could save some money by cutting waste like your salary given that you clearly dislike kids.

No, there is not enough time to go in breaks for all the kids in the school because breaks are short and lines are long. Kids are human you know and should be treated as such.

It's logged for information, to monitor who was in the toilet at a particular time. Schools can't afford £kkk worth of toilet damage every term. It's crazy.
It's not a behaviour point against them.
Go to the dr and get a note, or email the Pastoral Lead about her situation.

Ask your GP if he would be happy for his receptionist to leave her post every 30 mins to go for a wee. I call it a litmus test.

They do. I know someone who works with troubled teens and the girls don't drink all day. It's shocking - and yes, it's another academy.

It's barbaric. I used to teach in secondary and one of the reasons I left was because I could not enforce this ridiculous no toilet rule. It's inhumane. What if somebody has diarrhoea or a leaky period? Or what if they couldn't get into the loo at break due to huge queues and only having 15 minutes. It really should not be allowed to deny somebody toilet breaks.

to be fair there are a lot of times in my working day where i wouldn’t be able to nip to the loo and often have to wait an hour or so for the appointment to end so it’s not uncommon to have to wait for a suitable time to go.
A healthy bladder or bowel gives plenty of warning and most people can wait at least an hour once they feel the need to go. it isn’t good for the bladder to be emptying frequently throughout the day it actually causes more issues such as potential accidents than going every two to three hours.
obviously if a medical issue this is different hence the need for a toilet pass which should definitely be given in your child’s situation.
behavioural issues around toilets at schools are a mare and it’s really disruptive with kids coming and going in lessons.

Nobody should be denied access to the toilet.

I am forever glad that my kids don’t have to put up with this kind of controlling rubbish. .

In my role at school, I was recently given the task of looking at the medical passes, but more importantly the toilet passes. Not an enviable job.
But OMG!
I emailed the teachers and asked them if any of the pupils used their toilet passes on a regular basis. Some are literally leaving EVERY lesson.
So I have started phoning parents and have been met with stunned silence. Yes those toilet passes are literally preventing many students from receiving an education.
We are not talking about the students who have Crohns etc, it’s usually those with constipation or IBS.
And we are not daft, we know the ones who are genuine. We know those who are taking the p…
A few years ago, we didn’t need toilet passes.
We didn’t need reset passes.
Parents are setting SOME children up to fail.
So yes, because of those parents we now require medical evidence. One such pupil, who leaves every lesson recently went on a trip to Berlin.
The teacher told me he never asked to go to the toilet, in fact he was the one caught buying vodka in the local shop…..

You use your common sense.
You know when it’s genuine, because you know that pupil well.
You know if groups ask to leave at the same time, they are meeting up with friends and most likely having a sneaky vape.

Go to the GP, discuss it and make sure they know you need some evidence so they put it in the summary on the computer.

Then you get a print out of that, and then you take a big black marker to anything unrelated to toilet issues.
Give that to the school.

When you have kids smashing sinks and toilets.

Vaping

Arranging fights to be held in toilets or videoing other kids in toilet or kids being beaten up as obviously no cameras

Of course schools lock them.

Id push back op and say a GP letter is perfectly fine.

It’s not a small minority.
Pupils crap on the floor and find it hilarious. Girls stick used sanitary pads all over the walls and ceilings. Boys block urinals with poo and food.
Then there is the vaping, smoking weed etc.
Boys rip urinals off the wall.
Abusive graffiti is everywhere.
All these mumsnetters who disagree with limiting toilet access should volunteer to be a school toilet cleaner….

I bet you have never worked in a high school.

But you have said your child doesnt have a medical condition, no? So how is ibs relevant?