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Parking and the elderly

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Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · Yesterday 19:11

I recently attempted to renew a blue badge for an elderly (93 year old) relative. Despite him needing to use a walking frame or sticks, having had several falls, having stiff and painful joints, and a bit of confusion, he has been refused a blue badge.

I have lived in an area that had a ‘brown badge’ scheme, which were given to anyone over a certain age - I think it was 70 or 75. Now, not everyone needs to secure a space near to store entrances - I’m late 70’s myself and regularly walk 8-10k a day, but many people do need this, as they can’t confidently walk too far.

But aside from blue badge spaces, the only other close ones are parent and baby spaces. Why? I don’t understand why the latter can’t be further away, and wide enough to access car seats.

If my 93 year old relative is no longer entitled to a blue badge, I feel the only option is to park in a so called baby space, so that I can encourage his ongoing independence in choosing his food shopping. He just wouldn’t go if I couldn’t assist.

AIBU - Elderly people don’t need consideration in supermarket car parks

AINBU - If blue badges are being heavily restricted now, spaces in car parks should be set aside for the elderly, and parent/baby spaces moved further away.

OP posts:
Notaninfluencertype · Today 08:35

Sirzy · Today 08:17

I think the fact some people think fit and health adults need a closer parking space over a frail elderly person simply because they have a child with them says a lot about what is going wrong in society. Are people really that self centred?

I don’t need to be near, I need to be able to open both back doors wide enough to get my children in and out without damaging cars.

HappyViewer · Today 08:39

Use a parent and baby space and appeal the decision.

FirmSnake · Today 08:40

Sirzy · Today 08:17

I think the fact some people think fit and health adults need a closer parking space over a frail elderly person simply because they have a child with them says a lot about what is going wrong in society. Are people really that self centred?

Parent and child spaces are increasingly not near the front anyway. They're down the sides with a safe footpath instead.

bababamama · Today 08:46

It’s far harder to get a badge these days. Despite this bizarrely plenty of able bodied seem to have them in the town I work in, if you can run you don’t need one (and no they are not picking someone up, my desk overlooks that road so I have been keeping watch and am liaising with the parking team who are convinced there is a major fraud problem but haven’t the resources to put the pieces together)

emuloc · Today 08:55

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · Today 02:09

@Nearly50omg - I hope people don’t treat you in that way when you are older!

I think it’s very important to support and enable people to do as much as they are able and willing to do, at whatever age. Yes, I could do his shopping, or help him to do it online, but he likes to see the vegetables, and the fish, and I think that deserves to be encouraged.

Absolutely it does. It is good all round for him to get out, and be a part of what is going on, and get some gentle exercise, instead of being inside all of the time, and doing the weekly shop online. I have seen that type of comment before, and despair at the lack of thought behind such comments.

LifeFindsAWay · Today 09:02

Challenge the decision I've noticed recently that blue badges, carers allowance, benefits etc quite a lot are just refused first time and they're hoping you go away. If you challenge or reapply you get a fair shake and may still not qualify but they've actually looked.

Monty36 · Today 09:09

Notaninfluencertype · Today 08:35

I don’t need to be near, I need to be able to open both back doors wide enough to get my children in and out without damaging cars.

Can you though if you are surrounded by large cars ? You might not park next to one but by the time you get to go home you are collared in by two monsters machines? The space you want is all gone.

SockPlant · Today 09:15

Nearly50omg · Yesterday 21:05

If he’s confused and doddery then he doesn’t need to be taken shopping does he!

that's right - only young people should be allowed to be out. Not elderly doddery gits, getting in the way and nicking all the parking spots, the cunts.

Summeriscumin · Today 09:16

So much ageist shite - where are the mods?

emuloc · Today 09:19

Summeriscumin · Today 09:16

So much ageist shite - where are the mods?

Any posts have to be reported, if you feel that they warrant it.

SockPlant · Today 09:20

nomas · Today 02:17

They should just use the P&C bays if they have a genuine need.

not sure about anywhere else but in meadowhall you can only use the P&C if you have pre-registered with them, and the child has to be there when you register.

Which means visitors from out of town aren't able to use them, and nor are locals who need a temporary wider space. It is infuriating, especially in older car parks where the bays are calibrated to car widths that are 30 years out of date.

SockPlant · Today 09:26

Summeriscumin · Today 09:16

So much ageist shite - where are the mods?

it is reactive not pro-active modding so you have to report.

But ageism is generally ok here, and the reply will be something along the lines of "meh, we're leaving it up, plenty of people are challenging it in the comments"

borntobequiet · Today 09:47

Seymour5 · Today 07:04

There seems to be very little understanding of what old age actually means to one’s mobility, resilience, and confidence. I still volunteer, I go to the swimming pool, I have quite an active social life, mainly during the day. But I tire much more easily, and my stamina is far less than even five years ago.

Several of my friends, all around 80, use walking frames and/or walking sticks. We are very conscious that we are slower, less stable on our feet, and lack stamina. We try and keep active, but are careful not to fall. Falling causes far more issues to an elderly body, than to a younger, more robust one. Having a blue badge means (whether we drive or not) the opportunity to get out, whether to the shops, the theatre, the leisure centre.

I’d also add, if anyone who has no mobility issues sees someone who is obviously old standing up on public transport, please offer them a seat, and please don’t sit in the accessible seats. Many of us avoid it nowadays, as being jolted, with an increased risk of falling, is a genuine worry as we get frailer.

There seems to be very little understanding of what old age actually means to one’s mobility, resilience, and confidence.

This. A lot of people, currently dismissive of such problems, are going to get a shock as it happens to them.

I’m in my seventies and though I still work, exercise and have a busy social life the difference between how I was even ten years ago and how I am now is very noticeable.

ILoveKits · Today 10:17

Notaninfluencertype · Today 08:34

Half a mile? That’s a bloody big carpark.

drop him at the door and then park elsewhere. You can do that with an adult, I can’t with my baby and toddler.

You can't if they are anxious. And yes the car parks at out of town retail parks here are vast.

Portmore · Today 10:22

emuloc · Yesterday 19:17

Who said that he is driving? He can use the BB in any car, as it is assigned to him. I do believe that the OP is driving him around.

If that's the case then she would drop him off at the drop off/taxi space or by the entrance surely?!

Sirzy · Today 10:25

Portmore · Today 10:22

If that's the case then she would drop him off at the drop off/taxi space or by the entrance surely?!

Why should she? That makes everything much tricker rather than parking in a safe and suitable parking space.

BirdLandedonmyHead · Today 10:38

Portmore · Today 10:22

If that's the case then she would drop him off at the drop off/taxi space or by the entrance surely?!

Often the only place to drop someone iff involves stopping in the road.
It then takes time to get them out and somewhere safe.

Then the same in reverse.

nomas · Today 10:40

SockPlant · Today 09:20

not sure about anywhere else but in meadowhall you can only use the P&C if you have pre-registered with them, and the child has to be there when you register.

Which means visitors from out of town aren't able to use them, and nor are locals who need a temporary wider space. It is infuriating, especially in older car parks where the bays are calibrated to car widths that are 30 years out of date.

You would think they would have a system to pre-book a P&C bay or something.

Or at least be able to go up to concierge services and ask for an exemption.

Bitsostuff · Today 10:44

Notaninfluencertype · Today 08:34

Half a mile? That’s a bloody big carpark.

drop him at the door and then park elsewhere. You can do that with an adult, I can’t with my baby and toddler.

Can't do that with a elderly person with dementia either.

OP YANBU. We were refused a blue badge for my dad - profoundly deaf, dementia, couldn't walk that far but enough to wander off. Used to take 2 of us to get him to the gp - one to stay with him and one to go find a parking space on an adjacent street as they only had blue badge parking. Utter nightmare.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Today 10:46

humptydumptyfelloff · Yesterday 19:15

Ok il bite.

wtf are you doing encouraging a 93 year old with body issues and disabilities to still
drive

They don’t need to drive themselves to need a blue badge. Anyone giving them a lift will probably need it.

My DM’s care home had one for relatives to borrow if necessary.
When taking DM (then over 90) to e.g. the optician it was impossible to park anywhere nearby, except with a blue badge, and she was no longer able to walk any distance. And I couldn’t drop her off to go and park - she had dementia, would very quickly forget that I was coming back and get into a panic.

ChocolateBiscuitsandaCuppa · Today 10:48

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · Yesterday 19:59

I should have explained - I’m driving, and he is the passenger!

I voted that you were unreasonable because I also read it as you were supporting him to drive. Apologies, I agree with you 100%.

ThePieceHall · Today 10:49

bababamama · Today 08:46

It’s far harder to get a badge these days. Despite this bizarrely plenty of able bodied seem to have them in the town I work in, if you can run you don’t need one (and no they are not picking someone up, my desk overlooks that road so I have been keeping watch and am liaising with the parking team who are convinced there is a major fraud problem but haven’t the resources to put the pieces together)

My teen has one and she could probably run, if she could be arsed. By your definition, she is visibly able-bodied. She is however blind.

Ihateslugs · Today 11:05

I have a blue badge because I cannot walk very far and am in pain every step I take. I have renewed it twice, every time I end up having to appeal but I do get told what additional evidence I need. This time, last October, it was an updated medical report ( can’t recall exactly what it’s called) which is a print out I get from my GP of all my visits, referrals, medication etc. It is simply a printout from my records and I do not get charged for it.

I think the rejection letter has the phone number to use for an appeal so I suggest you do that and ask why the renewal was refused.

SometimesthingsMatter · Today 11:09

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · Yesterday 19:44

It’s very unusual for someone’s blue badge to be taken away and he certainly sounds as though he qualifies for one. Did something significant change? Have you considered appealing?

Yes op, this is shocking. You need to appeal. He should have a blue badge no question.