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Pure Cremation is body disposal right?

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josephiine · 25/09/2026 13:22

The advert makes it sound like it’s a lovely thing and saves money. I get that it’s cheaper but surely that’s because it is literally a body disposal service?
My FIL has just planned his, he asked my husband if he minds which he doesn’t, but it got us talking, am I missing anything?

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FizzyColaBottle8 · Yesterday 12:36

BMW58 · 25/09/2026 17:33

I couldn't disagree more!

The Body is just a vehicle for the personality/soul.

Nothing "sacred" about it when it's rotting underground or ashes scattered to the winds.

Totally agree with you. There’s nothing sacred about a rotting corpse.

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 12:39

XenoBitch · Yesterday 11:28

That is simply untrue. Bodies are cremated one at a time. That is the law. And it says that on their own website.

I have been a funeral celebrant in my time and I have been given tours of crematoria. There are very strict protocols about cremations. Each body is accompanied by forms from the undertaker and hospital and GP as necessary. Each body is cremated one at a time and the ashes raked out and stored with details of the deceased. Even during the cremation a card with the details is placed in a slot on the machine so that the operators know which body is being cremated.

When my brother died in 2024, I held a funeral ceremony for him for the family and friends with his coffin in a beautiful setting. We had music, readings and speeches from his son, our mum and my brothers. It was lovely. Then the undertakers took his coffin to the crematorium where he was directly cremated the following morning. His ashes were collected by his son a few days later.

Funerals are for the living and there is nothing stopping families from have a ceremony, whether religious or not, and then a direct cremation afterwards.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 12:47

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 12:39

I have been a funeral celebrant in my time and I have been given tours of crematoria. There are very strict protocols about cremations. Each body is accompanied by forms from the undertaker and hospital and GP as necessary. Each body is cremated one at a time and the ashes raked out and stored with details of the deceased. Even during the cremation a card with the details is placed in a slot on the machine so that the operators know which body is being cremated.

When my brother died in 2024, I held a funeral ceremony for him for the family and friends with his coffin in a beautiful setting. We had music, readings and speeches from his son, our mum and my brothers. It was lovely. Then the undertakers took his coffin to the crematorium where he was directly cremated the following morning. His ashes were collected by his son a few days later.

Funerals are for the living and there is nothing stopping families from have a ceremony, whether religious or not, and then a direct cremation afterwards.

Yep, I do not know where PP got her "facts" from about PC cremating groups of 20 people at a time... and that it even says that on their website (it doesn't).

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 12:57

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 10:57

Where I live these are usually done early in the morning between 9 and 10am

It's the same at our local one, but these were the slots originally saved for those who - for religious or cultural reasons - wanted cremations done very quickly after death

So as direct cremations rise in popularity I also wonder how they'll go on accommodating these; more crematoriums needed I guess

As for the silliness about 20 people cremated at a time, have you actually SEEN a cremator @Foreverautumnagain? Quite how you think they'd fit 20 in there I really don't know ...

CuteHANDBAG · Yesterday 15:16

I assume that for a direct crem you don’t need a coffin? Is that right?

Hadalifeonce · Yesterday 15:21

MiL had this. When we got her ashes back, we had a small family gathering to celebrate her life. It was beautiful, without having to go through the ordeal of watching the curtains close around the coffin.

XenoBitch · Yesterday 15:21

CuteHANDBAG · Yesterday 15:16

I assume that for a direct crem you don’t need a coffin? Is that right?

They always use a coffin.

BamberGirl · Yesterday 15:30

One of these companies has applied for planning permission locally. It’s for a warehouse for a couple of hundred bodies to be stored there before being sent to their crematorium down south (this is up North).
Personally I wouldn’t use the service, it seems to be on an industrial scale…unlike the local undertaker direct option described above.
im not sure I’d have great faith that mass storage and transport of bodies would be respectful?

Given that the industry is unregulated I’d rather go small local supplier (though given what happened in Hull recently, that’s no guarantee either of a relative being respected).

Viviennemary · Yesterday 15:32

Not sure I like the idea myself.

Missey85 · Yesterday 15:38

My father had this done in Australia and my aunt's took his ashes back to England and put them in the ocean like he wanted done with them 🙂 he said he'd come and haunt us if we buried him in the ground

NoctuaAthene · Yesterday 16:00

I too feel a bit unsure of the marketing of direct cremation as being the kindest and most loving, most selfless thing you can do for your family, freeing them from the expense and hassle of arranging a funeral. I can see that for some it is that, particularly where there are specific circumstances that makes a traditional funeral not possible or desirable, but in my personal experience of losing loved ones, the funeral part has always been very important as part of the grieving process - rituals and social customs, coming together to share memories and condolences etc is a important part of dealing with death and loss. Personally I think tradition, however illogical is actually really important at these times, the cultures that seem to have the healthiest attitudes to death and loss are those that are highly ritualised, sitting shiva in Jewish custom for instance. I think we haven't really worked out what the equivalent is for modern western post-religious death rituals - I don't think just shipping the body off for efficient, eco friendly and respectful disposal hits the emotional mark somehow.

I know, I know, you can still arrange a memorial service with a direct cremation, just without the coffin/physical presence of the deceased, but in the experience of people I know, this is actually quite a lot harder and more stressful than arranging a traditional funeral. There are so many more questions to be answered - when do you hold it for instance, great to have the immediate pressure off to not have to arrange really quickly after the death, but then do you want 6 months? A year? A family I know are still deep in bickering over their father's memorial nearly 2 years on and no-one can move on. Plus with the best will in the world everyone is going to be a bit 🤔 about a funeral so long after he actually died. Then, where is the appropriate venue for a memorial event? If not religious then you're looking at a village hall, a pub, a hotel conference room? Maybe I'm just an old stick but all feel a bit not quite right to me somehow. Also, how much of a party is appropriate to make it Vs a formal event with speeches, often the deceased would say they'd prefer more of a celebration, relaxed feel etc but without the framework of a ceremony and celebrant it can all just feels a bit flat or disorganised with no focus or opportunity to come together, people will just usually sit and chat quietly to the people they came with IME. And if you're into the territory of booking a full room of people with a ceremony or party afterwards with food and drink you've basically had as much hassle and expense of a traditional funeral.

Basically, if your primary objective is to make things as easy as possible for those left behind, by all means opt for a direct cremation but please do also consider leaving money and crucially, totally clear instructions to your loved ones around what kind of memorial you want too. And personally I think the easiest and overall probably cheapest thing to achieve that is a traditional cremation so that's what I've put in my own letter of wishes to my family, along with detailed instructions about music, flowers etc so they shouldn't have to think too much!

DLRPmember · Yesterday 16:13

The Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint about advertising by Pure Cremation in June. They were found to have implied a funeral would be held as part of the plans they were selling.

https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/pure-cremation-funeral-planning-ltd-g26-1325133-pure-cremation-funeral-planning-ltd.html

pigmygoatsinjumpers · Yesterday 16:17

CuteHANDBAG · Yesterday 15:16

I assume that for a direct crem you don’t need a coffin? Is that right?

My husband's direct cremation undertaken by a local, long-established family funeral directors who have a private crematorium in the grounds of their woodland burial site did not require a wooden or wicker coffin. I was told that a biodegradable "shell" is used. I didn't go into further details but I assume this was a rigid, combustible container constructed of cardboard. I did not feel uncomfortable with this.

This is an interesting article

Funeral Without a Coffin — Your Options Explained

https://washingtoncelebrationoflife.co.uk/funeral-without-coffin-uk-guide/

pigmygoatsinjumpers · Yesterday 16:22

XenoBitch · Yesterday 15:21

They always use a coffin.

Not always. Unless you are referring only to a specific company.

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 16:22

CuteHANDBAG · Yesterday 15:16

I assume that for a direct crem you don’t need a coffin? Is that right?

Yes you do

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 16:25

Hadalifeonce · Yesterday 15:21

MiL had this. When we got her ashes back, we had a small family gathering to celebrate her life. It was beautiful, without having to go through the ordeal of watching the curtains close around the coffin.

You don’t have to watch the coffin go behind the curtain anymore . They will do this after everyone has left the chapel of rest if you prefer .

pigmygoatsinjumpers · Yesterday 16:29

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 16:22

Yes you do

No you don't need a coffin, at least not a traditional coffin. It depends on the individual funeral company's policies and options. My husband was not cremated in a coffin.

There is in any case, no legal mandate for a coffin. A coffin can be made of cardboard, wicker, willow, a wooden box, or a fabric shroud or a felt "pod" in a natural burial ground.

See also: https://washingtoncelebrationoflife.co.uk/funeral-without-coffin-uk-guide/

Notonmyland · Yesterday 16:53

I think it's a fair swap to use some of the money that you'd waste on all that frippery for a funeral, on a celebration of the person.
I've been to enough funerals.

Funerals are incredibly expensive.

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 17:07

BamberGirl · Yesterday 15:39

700 bodies, not 200!

And I don’t mean that they would be doing anything untoward it’s just the scale of it that doesn’t sit well (with me).

https://www.yorkmix.com/company-defends-700-body-mortuary-plan-for-york-slammed-as-absolutely-appalling/

I hope you're aware that, as in the application below, the CoOp and other large funeral chains also use regional "mortuary hubs" where the deceased are kept in industrial size units and transported back to the local branches for viewing and on the day of the funeral (if any)?

There seems to be an impression that the loved ones will be "resting in the room at the back" so people can "just pop in to see them", and while that may happen with smaller companies it's by no means universal, especially when the cost of suitable equipment's become so high

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/mortuary-hub-plymouth-trading-estate-4934903

Mortuary hub on Plympton trading estate 'disrespectful to dead'

Co-op Funeralcare is asking for permission to change the use of the building on Cot Hill Trading Estate at Plympton

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/mortuary-hub-plymouth-trading-estate-4934903

DoraSpenlow · Yesterday 17:13

SepiaSleep · Yesterday 16:25

You don’t have to watch the coffin go behind the curtain anymore . They will do this after everyone has left the chapel of rest if you prefer .

See, I find walking out past the coffin extremely traumatic. I feel more like I'm leaving them behind. Much prefer the curtains closed. But then, there is no 'right' way. We each have to do what we have to do to get through it.

Personally I have never had closure through a traditional funeral and have chosen direct cremation for myself. No one has the trauma of having to attend and I would much rather everyone just goes to the pub and had a good time remembering me. Each to their own.

BamberGirl · Yesterday 17:13

@Puzzledandpissedoff
Thanks…I didn’t know this but it does make sense.
I dont think it’s a problem, it just doesn’t sit with the cosy adverts.
personally I think the body is just a shell and I’ve no religious sentiments but I can see that not everyone would feel like this. It’s good to be aware of the realities.

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 17:26

It’s good to be aware of the realities

I agree completely, @BamberGirl, and TBF there's nothing at all to stop people asking exactly what the arrangements will be for their loved ones ... except that many don't, instead just assuming the kind of things I mentioned and then blaming the funeral directors if it turns out things have been done some other way

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 17:30

DLRPmember · Yesterday 16:13

The Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint about advertising by Pure Cremation in June. They were found to have implied a funeral would be held as part of the plans they were selling.

https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/pure-cremation-funeral-planning-ltd-g26-1325133-pure-cremation-funeral-planning-ltd.html

I admit to being surprised by this, DLRPmember, in that the ASA acknowledged every mention the company made of "no service at the time" and then found against them anyway

Then again the ASA is funded via a levy on advertisers themselves, so I wonder if there'd been pressure from "traditional" funeral directors who resented losing business

godmum56 · Yesterday 19:48

NoctuaAthene · Yesterday 16:00

I too feel a bit unsure of the marketing of direct cremation as being the kindest and most loving, most selfless thing you can do for your family, freeing them from the expense and hassle of arranging a funeral. I can see that for some it is that, particularly where there are specific circumstances that makes a traditional funeral not possible or desirable, but in my personal experience of losing loved ones, the funeral part has always been very important as part of the grieving process - rituals and social customs, coming together to share memories and condolences etc is a important part of dealing with death and loss. Personally I think tradition, however illogical is actually really important at these times, the cultures that seem to have the healthiest attitudes to death and loss are those that are highly ritualised, sitting shiva in Jewish custom for instance. I think we haven't really worked out what the equivalent is for modern western post-religious death rituals - I don't think just shipping the body off for efficient, eco friendly and respectful disposal hits the emotional mark somehow.

I know, I know, you can still arrange a memorial service with a direct cremation, just without the coffin/physical presence of the deceased, but in the experience of people I know, this is actually quite a lot harder and more stressful than arranging a traditional funeral. There are so many more questions to be answered - when do you hold it for instance, great to have the immediate pressure off to not have to arrange really quickly after the death, but then do you want 6 months? A year? A family I know are still deep in bickering over their father's memorial nearly 2 years on and no-one can move on. Plus with the best will in the world everyone is going to be a bit 🤔 about a funeral so long after he actually died. Then, where is the appropriate venue for a memorial event? If not religious then you're looking at a village hall, a pub, a hotel conference room? Maybe I'm just an old stick but all feel a bit not quite right to me somehow. Also, how much of a party is appropriate to make it Vs a formal event with speeches, often the deceased would say they'd prefer more of a celebration, relaxed feel etc but without the framework of a ceremony and celebrant it can all just feels a bit flat or disorganised with no focus or opportunity to come together, people will just usually sit and chat quietly to the people they came with IME. And if you're into the territory of booking a full room of people with a ceremony or party afterwards with food and drink you've basically had as much hassle and expense of a traditional funeral.

Basically, if your primary objective is to make things as easy as possible for those left behind, by all means opt for a direct cremation but please do also consider leaving money and crucially, totally clear instructions to your loved ones around what kind of memorial you want too. And personally I think the easiest and overall probably cheapest thing to achieve that is a traditional cremation so that's what I've put in my own letter of wishes to my family, along with detailed instructions about music, flowers etc so they shouldn't have to think too much!

Edited

I respect your opinion, but its just that your opinion and yes you have made that clear. I am not sure how you have judged what the "healthiest attitude" to death is?

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