Pure Cremation is body disposal right?

It's handling human bodies as waste, on an industrial scale. They are stacked, stored and disposed of haphazardly, there is no personal attention.

I get that we in the UK are divorced from the concept of death, sometimes profoundly so, and in that context maybe it makes sense to treat human beings as less than offal once they are actually dead but still, it seems grotesque to me.

A friends partner planned a pure cremation. Some family members found it tough as come from a background with wakes etc.
We planned a celebration of her one month after she died. I gathered stories and memories from friends and family and did a book of it all with shared photos which she had as a running slideshow. . We gathered bunches of her favourite flowers and decorated the smallish function room in a nice bar. I asked people beforehand if anyone wanted to speak and read out on behalf of others. We made it a special day to give closure. It was really lovely and funny, just as she'd have liked.

Do you have proof of that?
It is an awful thing to say TBH. There are people on this thread that have used PC, and I am sure do not need to read that their loved ones were "stacked, stored and disposed of haphazardly" if that was not true.

Pure Cremation is what the thread is about.

Pure Cremation is one company doing it. There are lots of others also doing direct cremations so the subject isn't restricted to just the one company but the act of cremation without any funeral

TBF, the OP is on about Pure Cremation. It is even in the title.

We did exactly this. A while later due to Covid but it was much nicer having a memorial than a depressing funeral planned in the depths of grief.

I have found the rituals of some funerals we’ve attended very forced, like the bereaved have been talked into a set-piece performance by the undertaker/celebrant. Naff music, tacky flower arrangements, inappropriate speeches by people not used to talking in public, huge costs that they were too shy to say “no” to in case people thought they were stingy… the list goes on. I’d be very happy for my remains to be cremated and then scattered after a memorial party some time later, when everyone’s thinking straight.

I had direct cremations for both my parents. I chose it for DM and DF thought it was a great idea (they were divorced) so changed his pre-paid funeral to one.

You cannot say that it would leave people feeling "unresolved". We are all different, and I am happily at peace with the way it was dealt with. While I don't mind going to funerals and have almost "enjoyed" some of them I didn't want to have to attend my parents' funerals (I'm an only child, as was my DM, my DF's sisters had pre-deceased him) and I have no regrets at all. I got their ashes back and interred them later.

OP is correct. And it's what I'm having. My DC have instructions to use what is saved compared to a funeral on a wake, where they can eat, drink, laugh, cry and tell scurrilous stories about me.

They were brilliant in my experience, you can request the ashes back and they deliver them to you personally. The staff were kind and helpful.
It's then up to the family how they want to do a celebration of life, a wake , scatter the ashes etc.
Many attendees expressed gratitude at not having to sit through a service, go to the crematorium.
It is also much more reasonable price wise, more money for a gathering or charity etc

Op title quite off-putting btw

That wasn’t true in my case - cremations were local.

You don't have to do it through Pure Cremation. Use the local undertakers. Get agreements signed with necessary permissions for them to pick up and dispose of body. Those left behind can arrange whatever commemoration event they want. My brother did this earlier this year and his children arranged a lovely family and friends event. This might not be a suitable option for the loss of younger loved ones though.
Be aware that Pure Cremation only have 1 crematorium and it's based in the South of England although they do have access to one in .Manchester. Bodies are disposed of up to 20 at a time so I have no idea how they guarantee whose ashes you receive!! You can read this in their own information sheets.

Not if Pure Cremation was the company involved.

We had a Co OP direct to cremation funeral with no service and no ashes for my Dad and we are all having the same. We booked it online. We don’t even know when or where it took place as that information was meaningless for us. We mourned the loss of my Dad not his physical body.

Im happy with the ‘body removal’ phrase

Broadening the discussion a little, I think it worth mentioning that in England, all deaths that occur in hospital are now referred to the Medical Examiner's office where the cause (or causes) of death is reviewed and discussed with the next of kin before the release documentation is forwarded electronically to the Registrar.

This can add significant delays to the family's ability to register the death and hence, book a firm date for a funeral service or sign the paperwork for a direct cremation.

My husband died in June, this year, in hospital. The Medical Examiner's office could not agree with the ward doctors whether a small subdural haematoma found on CT after admission had been a contributory factor in his death. I was informed that more discussion would be needed with the consultant before the cause of death and any contributing conditions could be finalised and recorded.

Then I was told that my husband's file was being passed to the Coroner's office for their involvement because subdural haematoma is most usually caused by a blow to the head or as a result of a fall, though can occur spontaneously especially in the elderly or those with brain shrinkage. No post mortem was being instigated as they had access to CT scanning and his case had also been discussed with specialists at the neurological centre of excellence at another hospital shortly after his scan.

But the Coroner was having problems getting hold of the consultant, so this led to further delays. At one point, I was asked to give a verbal account of how my husband had been in the days leading up to his fall, when an ambulance crew had attended but not hospitalised him, and how he had been prior to his admission to hospital, two days later.

Eventually, it was decided that the subdural haematoma would not have contributed significantly to his death from other causes and the causes of death section of the forms could be finalised and relayed to me, as next of kin.

It was 16 days from date of death to my being given permission to book an appointment with the Registrar's office. As it was a Friday, I could not get an appointment until the following Monday, which was 19 days after my husband's death. It was 27 days until the direct cremation took place - so nearly 4 weeks between date of death and cremation.

So if you are the person making arrangements don't assume that you will necessarily be able to register the death within a couple of days and then book a firm date for the funeral because this requirement for all hospital deaths to be reviewed by the Medical Examiner may result in unanticipated delays.

I would add to the above that when a case is referred to the Coroner's office, the requirement for registering a death within five days is waived.

Yes, I couldn't register the death of DH for over 3 weeks due to a backlog at the Medical Examiner.

His cremation took place exactly 1 month after his death.

I used the local Co-Op Undertaker, so helpful and supportive when I was getting stressed out with it. She rang round and found out exactly what was happening to reassure me all was OK.

Where I live these are usually done early in the morning between 9 and 10am

That is simply untrue. Bodies are cremated one at a time. That is the law. And it says that on their own website.

I'm sorry for your loss BMW58. Four weeks is a long time to wait.

These delays also make it difficult logistically for families who are trying to organise a service or gathering or need to book catering venues etc.

I think my funeral director also chased the Medical Examiner's office for an update once the Coroner was involved. I expect the Medical Examiner's offices experience more backlogs, too, during the winter months due to higher death rates from seasonal illnesses.

We are doing similar for my mum. She was adamant it is what she wanted.

So a simple coffin, local undertakers take her to the crem for an unattended service and collect the ashes afterwards.

We will go on a trip to scatter the ashes as per her request which is when we will say our final goodbye.

I don’t feel its better or worse than a full funeral, but it is what mum wanted and we will follow that.

I have my parents ashes

That is awful. So much unnecessary pain. A vital service like the medical examiner needs to be efficient, not backed up.

Families should not be left in the unknown.

My cousin died, she lived in Bristol, it was a long time before she was ready for burial.

I am not sure if the ins and outs but I know we were able to have both of my parents funeral before the death was registered in Ireland. I think it’s to do with the 3 days turnaround, bound to Catholic tradition and obviously a much smaller population. The same rules apply in Spain so I think do think it is a Catholic tradition.

I think one thing that people who are against the simple cremation arrangements should keep in mind is that the market will decide. If people didn't want the service it would cease to exist