Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

I actually met the landlord doing this in my street as he was sussing out the property after purchase. I asked him why he was doing this to our road as there was so much antisocial behaviour etc and he just shrugged :(

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

But how would you stop landlords renting their HMO to the council and if that were the case where would the people you talk of live?

Councils had so many budget cuts and had to make so many saving under the Conservative government, that properties were sold. Councils cannot afford to reinstate these either as council housing or council facilities. Government departments the same. Private venture steps in because of the gaps left. (Same in alternative provision, residential children’s care, care homes). Massive costs to the tax payer because their is not enough publically owned provision to meet demand.

Yes absolutely. I work with migrants of all kinds so can confirm first hand that there are cases where both people waiting to be accepted as asylum seekers and those whose claims have been processed receive UC. I think it's simply the case that as it's the benefit that most access then the extra few who don't have means of support but aren't entitled to it van also claim because the local councils don't want to develop long term homeless populations. So this is why we often see the tents spring up, people will arrive in the UK by any route, pose as homeless and be fast tracked into housing and a UC income. It may not align with policy but it is definitely what we see regularly.

These refugee men wouldn't be here if it was not for British invading and raping and medling in other countries business. You reap what you sow.
My HD uncle was in the army and he said where British forces are present currently. Places we are not told in the public. So we need to look at our government and tell them to wothdraw and comoensate abroad so these families can rebuild their lives.
Don't wwnt them here sropp fing up their country and stealing thwir reaources etc etc, etc.

The ones who stay go to courses. A lot of courses. Some go to English lessons and of course barbering is popular. Some do shifts in takeaways. All complain about the shared accommodation and hope to get a house/flat.

No, asylum seekers cannot but refugees can as discussed upthread.

Certain right wing politicians callbthe minimal stipend provid to adylum seekers a ‘benefit’. That amount is £49 plus change weekly for those who must provide their own food, and just under £10 weekly for those in accommodation providing food (of a kind).

Obviously tbere are no housing or utility bills, as OP says, but phones and phone contracts are not provided by HMG. All expenses including phones, food (if not provided), toiletries, transport and clothing must come out of this allowance or illegal earnings, as very, very few asylum seekers are allowed to work.

There are no British Forces in Iran, Eritrea, Sudan or Somalia and never have been. British Forces left Pakistan in 1947.(Those countries make up the majority of refugees to UK BTW)
Your post is arrant nonsense.

I would be very willing to bet that an asylum seeker getting free housing, utility bills and council tax paid has more disposable cash (whether that is £10 after food or £49 including food) each week than a single British person on universal credit.

A google tells me a single person under 25 gets £338.58 a month (and has to pay their utility bills from that as well as all the other things you have mentioned - food, toiletaries, a phone).
A single person over 25 gets 424.90 (and again has to pay their bills).

I think the asylum seeker would have more money and at least they will be warm, dry (under a maintained roof) - and if food provided fed - if food not provided able to use their oven as the bills are paid.

There are currently fewer than 90,000 asylum seekers on the UK with its population of
69,600,000. In a group of 1000 people who live in the UK, only 12 would be asylum seekers.

Asylum seekers are too concentrated in a few places. That’s wrong, and Burnham is the first PM from either party to attempt to disperse them properly. We shall see. Possibly in these places they do challege public services. Hopefully that will ease.

But 12 people in 1000 is not enough overall to clog up the services you mentioned.

Are you confusing asylum seekers and refugees? The total is still well under 1% of the population. The NHS is badly overstretched, but these numbers do not explain it.

Goodness, you know your HMO neighbours well, you must talk to them loads and have fantastic relationships in place, to be sharing so much information.

I don’t know that much about my neighbours of 25 years.

OMG,yes. It is just like my street. Can't even get the police to come out in 999 situations - they hear the street name and just glaze over. And it used to be a nice street with families, a chapel and a small primary school!

On the positive side - if you want to do anything bad, you can have your fill because NO ONE would complain. Could blast music all night, deal and do drugs, dump your white goods in the street, buy an XL Bully, go out stark naked, climb all the fences in the gardens, remove your front door, can have a disposable BBQ in July and break hose pipe bans - NO ONE will notice or judge or Mumsnet report anything!
Can't beat them - join them! That's my option C on the list 😂

Handhold.

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

I have asylum seekers who live in a group home on my college course this year.
Funded by the govt.

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

And taking leases on properties owned by private landlords, whether HMOs or ordinary flats and houses, is much cheaper for councils than putting people in hotels/B&Bs.

I know of at least 2 councils that do this in my area; they take a 3-year lease and the owners like it because the income is guaranteed, the councils bear much of the maintenance cost and undertake to hand the properties back in the same condition they got them in.

The bit that got me was how often the properties they lease were former council properties that had been bought by tenants under RTB and subsequently sold on. The councils were paying landlords to house tenants in properties that the council used to own...

All men? Quelle surprise. This isn't asylum; this is an army.

I feel your pain. I bought a Victorian terrace house in 2008. I'm in the Midlands. On the edge of an area known as drug dealing etc but ok. Very quiet, clean and mostly populated by retired people who'd probably paid about 2k (if that) when they originally bought the houses. Then came the credit crunch, people dying, relatives selling house off cheap to landlords and it became a shit hole.

It really opened my eyes and I couldn't wait to get out but was in negative equity and had to wait until the property market recovered. The first HMO's were full of Polish guys but gradually it changed and we'd have Africans, Pakistanis, various Middle Eastern types. The ones renting whole houses as families weren't too bad unless it was the Roma as they moved in en masse. My neighbour let her house to one of the Roma, young couple with two kids and I cried when I found out. It was awful. Having to hear him beating her up in front of his father, him standing in front of me outlining his dick through his trousers (Think he thought single woman must be frustrated), They were, at least very clean. Young wife, about 19, used to clean and scrub all day, every day.

The other ones think nothing of throwing all sorts of rubbish into the street. Literally fridges, washing machines, sofas. Pull up in cars and empty overflowing ashtrays in piles in the middle of the pavement (yes pavement, not gutter) and throw rotting food, takeaway cartons etc out the door or car. It was truly like living in the middle of a rubbish dump.

I managed to move out just before the covid lockdown and have never been so thankful. I used to send pictures to the council and they'd send street cleaners but nothing ever done to stop the filthy habits, yet my son, 17 at the time, working long hours, stood waiting for bus and dropped cigarette butt. Fined £75. Personally I'd have told them to f.... off but he's not that type.

Regardless of what anyone says there is two tier justice in the UK. This will probably get deleted as some just don't want to hear the facts.