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Living next to asylum seeker HMO, ask me anything

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JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 20:28

As the title says. I live in a Victorian mid-terrace, wall-to-wall, garden-to-garden with an asylum seeker dispersal HMO. They were moved in nearly two years ago, replacing a multi-generation family that were living there before.
There is another HMO directly opposite my house, where asylum seekers get rooms once they are approved to remain but don't have an income to support themselves.

Not AIBU but more like AMA. I'm wondering what people would ask me if they really could ask anything. Does anyone actually want to know what it is like? I hear a lot of political point scoring in the media regarding this topic but no one actually talks to people like me!

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Lucyslocket · 25/09/2026 01:06

Wantmoredogsbutcant · 24/09/2026 21:29

What does this mean, they can get in?

Some older terraced properties have a communal roof space. That means you can get from one end of the terrace to the other by walking through the roof space.
It's also possible to enter other properties via the roof hatches if they aren't secured from below.

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 01:08

Is your house big enough to be turned into an HMO? Could you do the same and then use the rent money to finance a move . . . unless the council are prepared to buy it from you.

I'm sorry you're going through this - it sounds truly frightening. What part of the country are you in (obviously roughly)?

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:15

Anonyanonay · 24/09/2026 23:31

How has this experience affected your political views, OP?

@nearlylovemyusername

Politics...Not really. More so I've developed distrust and acute dislike towards authorities. I want to ignore the lot of them and campaign for much tighter oversight of the shared housing market, larger and regularly imposed fines for bad landlords who run houses in poor condition, more police presence on streets like mine... But I also think it's too late and no one will be able to fix this mess. There is a certain tipping point when the number of HMOs and the decline in building conditions makes recovery impossible. Like the clearance of slums in the 20th Century. We are heading that way. Many inner-city terraced streets won't come back from this. I'm sad, it used to be beautiful here 😢

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:23

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 01:08

Is your house big enough to be turned into an HMO? Could you do the same and then use the rent money to finance a move . . . unless the council are prepared to buy it from you.

I'm sorry you're going through this - it sounds truly frightening. What part of the country are you in (obviously roughly)?

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I'm in the North East. Isn't it awful though that things have been allowed to get that bad, that the Council have to buy a resident's home to allow them to escape?

I have been toying with an idea to hand my house over to asylum seeker contract - it still could be a family home, housing a refugee family. I'd have to rent elsewhere. But then I become a landlord with it's own complications - tax, etc.

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Namechangerage · 25/09/2026 01:25

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:15

@nearlylovemyusername

Politics...Not really. More so I've developed distrust and acute dislike towards authorities. I want to ignore the lot of them and campaign for much tighter oversight of the shared housing market, larger and regularly imposed fines for bad landlords who run houses in poor condition, more police presence on streets like mine... But I also think it's too late and no one will be able to fix this mess. There is a certain tipping point when the number of HMOs and the decline in building conditions makes recovery impossible. Like the clearance of slums in the 20th Century. We are heading that way. Many inner-city terraced streets won't come back from this. I'm sad, it used to be beautiful here 😢

I feel for you OP.

4 or 5 HMOs on my terraced street - opposite and a few doors up (all appeared within last 5 years since I moved here) a couple of which are leased to the council to people like ex offenders, rough sleepers, mental health, and asylum seekers - all men aged 20-50 by the look of them. I was threatened by one resident that he would kill me and my kids and burn our house down :( witnessed a violent attack outside my house. Blood stain still on pavement. Hear drug deals daily, see people wandering up and down trying to get drugs, people pissing in street. People watching us as we sit in garden. Fly tipping and rubbish outside the houses, nobody cares. The loft thing is terrifying and I need to check now!

Namechangerage · 25/09/2026 01:26

(No wonder we can’t sleep)

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 01:35

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:23

I'm in the North East. Isn't it awful though that things have been allowed to get that bad, that the Council have to buy a resident's home to allow them to escape?

I have been toying with an idea to hand my house over to asylum seeker contract - it still could be a family home, housing a refugee family. I'd have to rent elsewhere. But then I become a landlord with it's own complications - tax, etc.

It's absolutely dreadful. Dreadful that swathes of family homes are creating areas which are frightening for women to live in alone. The fact the council are willing to buy it from you says it all - I've never heard of that so I would grab that opportunity and make sure they pay market value before the HMO started accepting refugees. Completely accept that becoming a landlord is tricky - we have a number of properties we rent out and it's becoming more and more complex. Best of luck x

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 01:41

Namechangerage · 25/09/2026 01:26

(No wonder we can’t sleep)

OMG,yes. It is just like my street. Can't even get the police to come out in 999 situations - they hear the street name and just glaze over. And it used to be a nice street with families, a chapel and a small primary school!

On the positive side - if you want to do anything bad, you can have your fill because NO ONE would complain. Could blast music all night, deal and do drugs, dump your white goods in the street, buy an XL Bully, go out stark naked, climb all the fences in the gardens, remove your front door, can have a disposable BBQ in July and break hose pipe bans - NO ONE will notice or judge or Mumsnet report anything!
Can't beat them - join them! That's my option C on the list 😂

Handhold.

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BitOfAStubbornCow · 25/09/2026 01:49

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 24/09/2026 22:28

Terrace houses being turned into HMOs has destroyed my home town within a few short years. Every two / three terrace gets snapped up and turned into a minium 5 bed HMO. Changes everything about the town. The only good news OP that if you sold up, you have a developer bidding war

Same happening where I live, I have a similar situation to op with two houses on my terraced street housing 5/6 men.

The back alley outside my home has been taken over and treat like an extension of the house, they set up plastic sofas and chairs, bbq, caravan out there at the moment too.
Same nocturnal pattern OP mentions, it’s happening now as I speak. Every night and the antisocial ones will just laugh in your face if you ask them to keep the noise down.

They dump their rubbish in the bushes at the end of the street or in other peoples back yards.

I’ve had men staring in windows several times, face pressed against the glass type of staringC I keep my curtains and blinds closed all day now, most of the street do.

Reports to council etc have done nothing. Police dont care, and it very much does feel like communities like mine have been pushed under the bus, not just by people who think everyone is lying about it, but also by the local thugs with their own domestic violence convictions who treat Tommy Robinson like some kid of god. Both types of men have me feeling scared and vulnerable, it’s just I get don’t get called racist when I say I’m scared of the ex convicts or the young lads with knives on bikes with balaclavas.

Mirsine · 25/09/2026 02:08

Have you or your neighbours ever raised the issues with your local MP? If so, how did they respond?

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

Mirsine · 25/09/2026 02:08

Have you or your neighbours ever raised the issues with your local MP? If so, how did they respond?

I don't have neighbours - it's terrace, after terrace of some kind of transient tenants.
In fact, one of the short term tenants, who was staying in a house for contractors came up to me and said it looks like the world has ended and I'm the last human left amongst zombies!

I'm making a list and at the moment I'm up to 102 houses being some sort of house share out of 129 properties. 5 owner-occupiers. 1 family Council house. Still have to establish the rest.
Once I have the full ugly picture, I'll try to make some noise about it, what with the Council elections coming up...

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JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

A side note - we have always had Labour and Lib Dem (current) Councils. A local Lib Dem Councillor said in a recent meeting that if anything, cities need MORE HMOs and he thinks that Victorian terraces are unsuited for family living anyway so it is only right to have no families in them.
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No words

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harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 02:35

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

A side note - we have always had Labour and Lib Dem (current) Councils. A local Lib Dem Councillor said in a recent meeting that if anything, cities need MORE HMOs and he thinks that Victorian terraces are unsuited for family living anyway so it is only right to have no families in them.
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No words

Shocking. As is your statistic covering the number of properties that have been converted from family homes to HMOs

I'll bet that Lib Dem councillor and his family don't live in the streets which are all filled with refugee men. Awful, awful.

Mirsine · 25/09/2026 02:35

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:32

I don't have neighbours - it's terrace, after terrace of some kind of transient tenants.
In fact, one of the short term tenants, who was staying in a house for contractors came up to me and said it looks like the world has ended and I'm the last human left amongst zombies!

I'm making a list and at the moment I'm up to 102 houses being some sort of house share out of 129 properties. 5 owner-occupiers. 1 family Council house. Still have to establish the rest.
Once I have the full ugly picture, I'll try to make some noise about it, what with the Council elections coming up...

Christ, it sounds very dystopian. (If that’s the right word?)

JapanesePotWeed · 25/09/2026 02:56

Ilmiocompleanno · 25/09/2026 01:06

Re none of them mentioning war, it is worth remembering that in a country that is not at war, a person can be at very real risk of being murdered by government forces.

I can't say that ending up in my street has lessened anyone's chances of getting murdered! Probably not by the government though 😅
I asked my local Police Officer what chances there are of NOT becoming a victim of crime here. His answer was ...0%
On a different occasion I asked the same question to a more senior Officer. His answer was the same. 0%.

Is it as bad in Eritrea and Germany? Do they all get 100% victimised? 😳

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Pastillefruit · 25/09/2026 03:12

This is such a fascinating insight into the realities of immigration. Thanks for sharing your experiences op. From your description of when you first lived there, a supportive working class community of families with a school and a church, it sounds like you’ve been there many years. Do you have family of your own who support you in dealing with this? Can you get help with making your loft secure and can you ever get away for a few days respite with relatives? The picture I get is that you’re quite alone in this situation, which feels desolate. I hope you can pursue the idea of the council buying your house, it seems like the most realistic and stress free option. Providing you get a realistic price of course, which allows you to find another home where you can live relatively peacefully. What a sad state the country is in. Where would you go if you could live anywhere?

samthepigeon · 25/09/2026 04:11

Dollymylove · 24/09/2026 22:18

And not a woman or a child in sight!!

They house women and children separately.

samthepigeon · 25/09/2026 04:17

Maomee · 25/09/2026 00:04

Asylum seekers can claim benefits in the form of universal credit. There are certain routes where public funds shouldn't be allowed this is often ignored, and the whole immigration system is so messy that the majority of migrants-whether seeking asylum or not- end up being supported with UC because the UK is a very expensive country to live in and these people almost always do not have the resources to fund themselves.

Can they really claim UC? I am surprised but happy to be proved wrong.

carkey26 · 25/09/2026 04:37

This is really interesting, although also so sad and frustrating this is happening to people like you. thank you for sharing.

How long have you lived there? Do you have any children or is it just you?

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/09/2026 04:54

JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 22:31

Would have been the perfect house for women but...

Most stay close to a year. Some probably fall foul of some regulations and disappear sooner. Or do a runner.
I found a Home Office letter in my front garden recently. It contained a court decision to deport based on REPEAT history of offending. There were two cases associated with an individual : drug dealing/possession and fly-tipping. The letter went on about how criminal behaviour is not compatible with being "of good character". As such, a decision has been made to deport.
ALTERNATIVELY, the person could leave the country willingly and they will be given £2000 and a seat on a flight to do so...

Who knew!⬆️ We pay 2k to convicted criminals to leave willingly. What a strange country this is!

An enforced deportation costs £48,800 so £2000 plus flight is a bargain.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/average-cost-of-an-immigration-enforcement-return-fy-2024-to-2025/average-cost-of-an-immigration-enforcement-return-fy-2024-to-2025

MixedBananas · 25/09/2026 06:12

Do you welcome them. Kind to them? A lot come from very disturbing situations bwxk home and need welcoming. I cwn not even beging to atart to relate or have a clue what horrora they lived through. Families they have witness die etc etc. I hope they are welcomed and make the best life for themselves.

MixedBananas · 25/09/2026 06:17

harveythehorse · 25/09/2026 02:35

Shocking. As is your statistic covering the number of properties that have been converted from family homes to HMOs

I'll bet that Lib Dem councillor and his family don't live in the streets which are all filled with refugee men. Awful, awful.

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These refugee men wouldn't be here if it was not for British invading and raping and medling in other countries business. You reap what you sow.
My HD uncle was in the army and he said where British forces are present currently. Places we are not told in the public. So we need to look at our government and tell them to wothdraw and comoensate abroad so these families can rebuild their lives.
Don't wwnt them here sropp fing up their country and stealing thwir reaources etc etc, etc.

Frumpitydoo · 25/09/2026 06:22

How much value has been knocked off the cost of your property since they moved here?

Why do you think the government are bringing in, and funding, all these men to this country?

Iamnotalemming · 25/09/2026 06:25

This is a fascinating thread, thank you for sharing OP.

SplishSplash123 · 25/09/2026 06:29

JapanesePotWeed · 24/09/2026 21:33

Yes, they can get in!
Doesn't help that I know of a case where a woman was shot with a crossbow and her husband killed by a neighbour (not an asylum seeker) who came in via the loft.
There should be a full wall for fire safety if nothing else but... I'll have to build it.The asylum contractors really will not help in any way!

The loft issue should have come up on your survey when you bought the house. It would be an issue with any neighbour, and you should fix it regardless of who lives there.

Do you not accept that some of this is the reality of having neighbours?! You could have UK born and bred next door, smoking weed, up at all hours etc.