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That it's a massive waste of time, effort, money, lives and we should just bring them over by coach and ferry.

257 replies

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/09/2026 16:03

I have just watched the video from earlier today/yesterday of a migrant boat departing Boulogne. The one where the Dad (presumably) ditches his toddler in the sea in order to get onto the boat. The kid was instantly picked up by French emergency workers and it struck me that this whole situation is completely bizarre.

There were approximately half a dozen lifeguards around the boat on jet skis and paddle boards, probably also a load of police out of frame. The boat will then be shadowed by French coastguard vessels until halfway across the channel, at which point border force/RNLI will pick them up and bring them to the UK. They will then be greated by coaches, a couple of hundred riot police and some (redacted by MNHQ) before continuing to their destination.

AIBU to think that this is all a total farce and we should simply provide the coaches from the outset?

YABU - The current arrangement is best.

YANBU - Coach and ferry would be better for everyone.

OP posts:
InTheMiddle23 · 25/09/2026 21:02

Where do you live op? Can we house them there?

suburburban · 25/09/2026 21:28

No just stop them coming, it’s becoming ridiculous, feels like we are being invaded and taken over.

HeyThereDelila · 25/09/2026 21:30

“Some gammons”?

Sure, why not just roll out a red carpet while you’re at it? We can’t take these people. They’re mostly men from misogynistic cultures, low skilled with minimal English. They will not make a meaningful contribution and in many cases will actively cause harm. Many aren’t refugees - they’re just economic migrants chancing their arm.

Enough.

5foot5 · 25/09/2026 22:14

EasternStandard · 25/09/2026 19:51

I don’t think traffickers are on board. It’s just people who’ve paid.

Yes, but surely somebody is actually driving the boat? And if the boat is returned to shore and then confiscated. I guess it can't be that simple or they would do it, wouldn't they?

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 06:31

Allseeingallknowing · 25/09/2026 17:49

It’s a mixture though, gangs, suppliers of boats, French police , pull factor to U.K. It doesn’t help that the PM is half hearted about it, and the problem is played down.

Played down? If only! We hear nothing else despite numbers reducing dramatically since Labour came to power. The time taken to process an application for asylum has also come down massively, conservatives artificially inflated it by cutting civil service numbers.

I wonder in who's interest it is to pretend the UK is overwhelmed with such problems?!

sandgrown · Yesterday 06:44

@BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows totally agree. Someone genuinely in fear of their life should be relieved to reach any safe European country . Why are they so intent on reaching the UK ? I think we all know the answer really .

EasternStandard · Yesterday 08:07

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 06:31

Played down? If only! We hear nothing else despite numbers reducing dramatically since Labour came to power. The time taken to process an application for asylum has also come down massively, conservatives artificially inflated it by cutting civil service numbers.

I wonder in who's interest it is to pretend the UK is overwhelmed with such problems?!

Numbers fluctuate. Last week they were high again. Labour will struggle if they go up further.

Itsdarkateight · Yesterday 08:10

No arrangement is best. We don’t need these migrants here and they are perfectly safe in France

Ace56 · Yesterday 09:00

EmeraldRoulette · 24/09/2026 21:16

Yeah, I’m always baffled by this

I haven’t been to France for many many years, but what is happening there that is so terrible they have to escape from it? You’d think we would know?!

To people saying why don’t they just stay in France - have you seen the state of the camps at Calais? They are slums, absolutely awful conditions. The French really don’t give a fuck. At least when they come to the uk they are given a hotel while they wait to claim asylum! Factor in the general racist attitude of the French (they are much less tolerant than the uk) and English being a more widely spoken language, it’s a no brainer. Oh, and it’s easier to work illegally in the uk (Deliveroo etc).

Roosthename · Yesterday 10:28

when i started reading the thread I thought “I bet @Ablondiebutagoody never follows up with a link to this video”

and sure enough

thesungodra · Yesterday 10:30

All that would happen is that the dinghies would continue but we’d also have people arriving on coaches. People who are desperate will not wait patiently for a coach place.

autumnisherenow · Yesterday 10:39

Roosthename · Yesterday 10:28

when i started reading the thread I thought “I bet @Ablondiebutagoody never follows up with a link to this video”

and sure enough

The video is widely available anywhere.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2251488/Channel-migrants-France-asylum-Labour-Andy-Burnham

Shocking moment migrant leaves child in horror Channel crossing

Shocking video footage showed a man carrying a child into the water, only to abandon the youngster

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2251488/Channel-migrants-France-asylum-Labour-Andy-Burnham

Dollymylove · Yesterday 10:43

Message to the "refugees welcome" mob (but not in their area of course)
I someone can do THAT to THEIR CHILD,
what else are they capable of?
And we are having to feed and house these fuckers
I rest my case 😡

Roosthename · Yesterday 10:44

autumnisherenow · Yesterday 10:39

Weird I can’t click that video link

can anyone else?

topcat2014 · Yesterday 10:47

I was surprised that in the news boats had also arrived "unseen" - as I had assumed this was happening all the time anyway?

Show's how the news can give different impressions.

Dollymylove · Yesterday 10:58

Roosthename · Yesterday 10:44

Weird I can’t click that video link

can anyone else?

Its probably been deleted on pain of arrest.
Like the one where the police officer deliberately walked in front of the elderly man's car

Roosthename · Yesterday 11:04

Dollymylove · Yesterday 10:58

Its probably been deleted on pain of arrest.
Like the one where the police officer deliberately walked in front of the elderly man's car

Oh don’t be so silly 😆

autumnisherenow · Yesterday 11:15

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 25/09/2026 16:33

You'll find the rest of you lot on the thread about immigrants increasing violence on our streets - another dog whistle thread, but then you're probably all on that one as well. Women and children (or younger voters as the next best indicator) don't tend to vote to stop helping drowning people. Which is murder, by the way.

Academic studies and data from organizations like the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) show a complex picture: overall crime rates in Britain have fallen significantly over the last few decades, a period during which net immigration steadily rose. However, the combination of sensationalised media stories, anxieties over unmanaged borders, and the visible pressures on local communities keeps the narrative highly potent for right-wing voters

There’s no way that is true. I pass so many places in London where I know people have been stabbed to death or shot. This is something that was unheard of when I was young, but it’s commonplace now.
People don’t bother reporting crime anymore.

Worrall20 · Yesterday 11:52

Who are you to say if we disagree with men in large groups wandering around our towns we are right wing? This argument is getting rather tiresome. From my own personal experience, I can no longer visit the city nearest to me. It is not safe and last time I went I was harassed and followed by groups of men at 9am. So no not ‘dog whistle’ at all. Who has voted to let people drown, rather a dramatic statement with no relevant evidence? So because we don’t want large groups of men entering the country, without any vetting, we are right wing and would rather they drown? Figures may show that crime has reduced, not sure the recording of this is correct, but from a personal perspective I genuinely feel very unsafe in my local city which I have never done before.

Worrall20 · Yesterday 11:53

Worrall20 · Yesterday 11:52

Who are you to say if we disagree with men in large groups wandering around our towns we are right wing? This argument is getting rather tiresome. From my own personal experience, I can no longer visit the city nearest to me. It is not safe and last time I went I was harassed and followed by groups of men at 9am. So no not ‘dog whistle’ at all. Who has voted to let people drown, rather a dramatic statement with no relevant evidence? So because we don’t want large groups of men entering the country, without any vetting, we are right wing and would rather they drown? Figures may show that crime has reduced, not sure the recording of this is correct, but from a personal perspective I genuinely feel very unsafe in my local city which I have never done before.

Sorry that was meant as a response to @SmallDFartyCarNRG

Worrall20 · Yesterday 11:55

Roosthename · Yesterday 10:44

Weird I can’t click that video link

can anyone else?

Yes just type in google and you will find lots of videos!

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · Yesterday 12:05

ThisUmberSwan · 25/09/2026 18:35

And that’s our problem or France’s problem because? If they hop aboard a boat and come across they risk their own lives so why should we worry about their lives when they don’t seem to care about their lives or ours who they wre impacting by coming to our country

So you would deliberately put them to death then? Considering that, in this country, we don't even have the death penalty for the most horrific crimes? Whatever the migrants may or may not be intending, is your own British sense of integrity and humanity not higher than "see foreigner = kill them"?

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 12:22

Itsdarkateight · Yesterday 08:10

No arrangement is best. We don’t need these migrants here and they are perfectly safe in France

Trouble is, France don’t want them either!

suburburban · Yesterday 14:38

Ace56 · Yesterday 09:00

To people saying why don’t they just stay in France - have you seen the state of the camps at Calais? They are slums, absolutely awful conditions. The French really don’t give a fuck. At least when they come to the uk they are given a hotel while they wait to claim asylum! Factor in the general racist attitude of the French (they are much less tolerant than the uk) and English being a more widely spoken language, it’s a no brainer. Oh, and it’s easier to work illegally in the uk (Deliveroo etc).

Too bad. There have been far too many coming here. We need to disincentivise them to come to Europe in the first place

globalinfluence · Yesterday 18:12

Great idea. Why not..