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AIBU To pin child’s wrists to their side

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Calmondeck · 18/09/2026 19:59

Friday night picnic in the park with another family. Neighbours from down the street, our kids play together multiple times a week. Often I am the parent supervising, and am usually playful and interacting with the kids, tonight I was happy to have adult company and a chat. The neighbour’s eldest child (aged 5) started picking clumps of grass and throwing them on my head while I was sitting eating. I said no. He continued to pick grass and throw it on my head, at my face, down my shirt, demanding that I come play with him. The mum, in a sing song voice said “oh I don’t think CalmOnDeck is liking that”, he ignored her, continued despite my protests. My DH snapped, “stop, child’s name”. When the child approached me again I held his wrists to prevent him from throwing more grass, and said firmly “I am not playing this game”. His mum then reacted saying “darling, come sit down”.
I feel a bit unsettled because it didn’t feel comfortable telling off someone else’s child, and I wondered whether it was unacceptable to hold his wrists. But I was also completely baffled by his parent’s lack of early intervention. When we got home, my DH thought it was outrageous the child’s parents were so passive, despite me clearly saying no and objecting that food was getting covered in grass.
Was IBU for holding his wrists? Should I have asked his parents to react? Keen to know how others would have handled this

OP posts:
LittleGreenShoots · 20/09/2026 13:04

Oof OP I know how you feel. I recently had to prise my daughters sand truck out of a (I'd guess) 4 year olds hand after he'd grabbed it and ran away with it. No parent in sight for the little boy, nice words and asking him were doing nothing, and my daughter was upset/ I needed to get back to her without wasting too much time. It felt very wrong to force a toy out of another kids hand but if their parent won't parent what can you do really?

WhatNoRaisins · 20/09/2026 13:08

I don't think that we need to resort to harsh discipline but I don't think you're ever too young to be taught that your actions can impact on other people.

anotherside · 20/09/2026 13:30

If he was about to throw stuff at or hit your child would it be inappropriate to restrain another child? Obviously not. So same principle applies.

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 13:33

Releasemeplease · 18/09/2026 22:22

Well as someone who is not totally familiar with what the law actually is on restraining children, or even touching children that are unrelated to me I would personally be very wary of doing this.
I don't know why my comnent is controversial. I'm not criticising OP for what she did. I think she had good cause. But I thought the safest and general rule is not to touch other people's children because it is very easy for an adult to be viewed as being in the wrong in situations like this.

There is no law about "touching children unrelated to you."

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 13:47

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 13:33

There is no law about "touching children unrelated to you."

Really?I think you are being very naive here.
Unwanted and uninvited touching of any one can be construed as assault. Certainly here in Scotland. Where , incidently, also corporal punishment of children is a crime. Touching children, and indeed adults, can lay you open to accusations.
And yes there are legal constraints on the use of restriction.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 13:49

You were right to do it and its not inappropriate. I cant be bothered to read the other responses because I can predict someone will say you virtually assaulted the child.

Dont hang out with them again if she cant parent her own child. It forces another adult to act and then probably get a load of grief for it.

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 14:21

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 13:47

Really?I think you are being very naive here.
Unwanted and uninvited touching of any one can be construed as assault. Certainly here in Scotland. Where , incidently, also corporal punishment of children is a crime. Touching children, and indeed adults, can lay you open to accusations.
And yes there are legal constraints on the use of restriction.

Yes, really.

Touching anyone can be assault.

You can't assault children you are related to and you can't assault children you are unrelated to.

There is no law about "touching children unrelated to you."

CleverlyBeery · 20/09/2026 14:23

wiredandtired · 20/09/2026 12:38

Yes. There are two points to address here, though -

  1. The child needs boundaries, clearly.

  2. Whether OP should have taken it upon herself to physically restrain the child.

I would have just said more firmly to the parent "Please can you stop him" rather than restraining him myself, in the first instance.

If the parent still did nothing and he carried on, then maybe, but really I probably would have just got up and moved away.

Yes, my post was purely about the most recent post from the OP - the mum saying parenting was exhausting and that she avoids conflict.

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 14:42

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 14:21

Yes, really.

Touching anyone can be assault.

You can't assault children you are related to and you can't assault children you are unrelated to.

There is no law about "touching children unrelated to you."

Sorry you have lost me.
Seems like you are trying to start an argument with me for no reason and I really can't be bothered.

Katigee410 · 20/09/2026 16:18

Totally on your side. Hate it when parents don't do their ' job ' so it fell to you to do something. You didn't hurt the child and boundaries obviously weren't set

CorkedWellbeing · 20/09/2026 16:26

I think you're fine. My daughter is nearly 4 and boisterous by nature so I am all over it when it comes to making sure that she knows games have to be fun for everyone and that someone asking her to stop is not a suggestion she can take or leave.
In this situation the parents should have stepped in as soon as you made it clear you weren't playing. That situation was not yours to manage and you shouldn't have been put in the position of finally having to show enough is enough .

TalkToTheHand123 · 20/09/2026 16:26

If you shoved his face into the grass, I think that would be ok and proportionate self defense.

Surprisinglynice · 20/09/2026 16:33

How did others in the group respond? Did you sense some were thinking WTF? Is that why you’re asking us?

Lifeomars · 20/09/2026 16:34

I'd be reluctant to actually lay hands on someone else's child in case the parent got angry but I totally get where the OP is coming from. Poor kid isn't being helped to learn about acceptable behaviour with a mother like that, it does them no favours. A while back I was in our local cafe and two little ones, around 4/5 were running amok while their mums drank coffee, they were banging into tables, risking hurting themselves and upending hot drinks, racing the length of the cafe, shrieking and yelling and a few people kindly and calmly tried to get then to calm down and got a mouthful from the mums as a response. The most ironic thing was that the cafe has a play table with toys and colouring stuff so they could have diverted their kids with this. It was apparently easier to let other people stop them hurting themselves rather than parent them

localnotail · 20/09/2026 16:47

Why couldn't you shouted to his parents "please can you come and get your child he is ruining my food and clothes?" Or maybe got up, took him by the hand and led to his mum. And explain to her that you are eating and he is covering your food in dirt.

Newyearawaits · 20/09/2026 16:48

NancyThompson · 19/09/2026 08:12

Yes but it's not like she battered him. She just painlessly physically stopped him. The whole thing is a non-event from a legal perspective.

Difficulty is that child's perception /description of events could get OP into a lot of trouble

SockPlant · 20/09/2026 16:52

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 20/09/2026 12:45

God I’m over “gentle “ / passive parenting.

Had this the other day at a restaurant- not even a known kid he had the salt shaker and was trying to put salt all over my daughter her food - I was batting the salt shaker away while parents watched !!! I wish I had said “hello - do you want to parent!!!”

but I was gobsmacked the situation was happening

Next time

  1. tell the mum can you get him to stop!!
  2. If she/ he doesn’t you pack up go home - her lack of boundaries shouldn’t mean you get grass/ dirt thrown at you!

Also I’d be distancing myself from this friend her perish cherub is only going to get worse!

meh. I would not be packing up to go home. I am not conflict avoidant tho, i would have told her to take her son away until he can behave in society.

SockPlant · 20/09/2026 16:53

Newyearawaits · 20/09/2026 16:48

Difficulty is that child's perception /description of events could get OP into a lot of trouble

are you the mum? do you let your children behave like this?

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 20/09/2026 16:54

seahorsessky · 18/09/2026 20:54

You shouldn't have had to. Under 10, throwing stuff at someone presumably isn't classed as assault, but he should be controlled so that doesn't happen-kids have caused serious injury by throwing stuff at people. Grass this time, next time what? Stones? Bottles? His mum (and dad if he's on the scene) should have taught him this long before 5, and if there's some reason he can't be expected to behave, they should be supervising and intervening immediately.
I feel sorry for his classmates and teachers.

No a five year old child can't assault anyone. However, an adult can, and what @Calmondeck did does actually constitute assault. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it might legally be assault and battery. As it used to be regarded as assault if someone waved a fist at someone, and if they actually touched them in anger, or in order to upset or annoy them, it was then considered assault and battery! I don't know if any laws have been changed since then.

But that was many years ago, and might have excluded adults doing so to children. Which imo is worse, because little children are the most vulnerable members of our society. However, I don't for one second believe that what the OP was done in an abusive way, I just think she was just exasperated at the child not being made to stop by it's mum. I would not touch anyone elses child to restrain them, unless it really was an emergency situation, eg. The child was about to run out on to a busy road.

Peonies12 · 20/09/2026 17:02

Sorry but I think entirely inappropriate to restrain someone else’s child unless they were going to hurt themselves or someone else. You should have just moved away or gone home.

LBFseBrom · 20/09/2026 17:13

AppropriateAdult · 18/09/2026 20:01

I think it’s fine. You didn’t hurt him, and his mum was being ridiculous.

I agree.

shellx6 · 20/09/2026 17:14

TBH she's not a friend if she allowed her child to treat you like that, and to dismiss his behaviour with you are not liking that, I would keep my distance

Surprisinglynice · 20/09/2026 17:16

Not sure why the Op is posting

the mum didn’t say anything
and no one else did
and the Op doesn’t mention the atmosphere changing or anything
so 🤷‍♀️ looks like no in RL gave a hoot so why the thread?

Isometimeswonder · 20/09/2026 17:18

A kid about that age once threw a stone at me, for no reason, I was just walking by.
The parent actually laughed when I called out to them to watch their child's behaviour.

Bigreddog25 · 20/09/2026 17:23

I dont think you should do that, but you had no other choice at this point. It should never have got to needing to do that. So it's not your fault at all.

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