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AIBU To pin child’s wrists to their side

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Calmondeck · 18/09/2026 19:59

Friday night picnic in the park with another family. Neighbours from down the street, our kids play together multiple times a week. Often I am the parent supervising, and am usually playful and interacting with the kids, tonight I was happy to have adult company and a chat. The neighbour’s eldest child (aged 5) started picking clumps of grass and throwing them on my head while I was sitting eating. I said no. He continued to pick grass and throw it on my head, at my face, down my shirt, demanding that I come play with him. The mum, in a sing song voice said “oh I don’t think CalmOnDeck is liking that”, he ignored her, continued despite my protests. My DH snapped, “stop, child’s name”. When the child approached me again I held his wrists to prevent him from throwing more grass, and said firmly “I am not playing this game”. His mum then reacted saying “darling, come sit down”.
I feel a bit unsettled because it didn’t feel comfortable telling off someone else’s child, and I wondered whether it was unacceptable to hold his wrists. But I was also completely baffled by his parent’s lack of early intervention. When we got home, my DH thought it was outrageous the child’s parents were so passive, despite me clearly saying no and objecting that food was getting covered in grass.
Was IBU for holding his wrists? Should I have asked his parents to react? Keen to know how others would have handled this

OP posts:
TallSturdyGirls · 19/09/2026 08:29

JLou08 · 19/09/2026 07:40

I'd love to see some case law that backs up your claim that a 5 year old throwing grass is an incident where self-defence is warranted. That's one of the most outlandish claims I've seen on here.

It would be mitigating circumstances.

TallSturdyGirls · 19/09/2026 08:32

I always feel sorry for annoying kids like this who have fecking useless parents that do teach them to behave decently.

Takethehuntingquiche · 19/09/2026 08:35

Releasemeplease · 18/09/2026 22:22

Well as someone who is not totally familiar with what the law actually is on restraining children, or even touching children that are unrelated to me I would personally be very wary of doing this.
I don't know why my comnent is controversial. I'm not criticising OP for what she did. I think she had good cause. But I thought the safest and general rule is not to touch other people's children because it is very easy for an adult to be viewed as being in the wrong in situations like this.

A quick Google search will tell you what the law is. In this instance it would be lawful

AmnesiacsDream · 19/09/2026 08:38

JLou08 · 19/09/2026 07:40

I'd love to see some case law that backs up your claim that a 5 year old throwing grass is an incident where self-defence is warranted. That's one of the most outlandish claims I've seen on here.

Case law? It would be crazy to treat any of this as criminal. Which is why the word "technically" was used.

Sereine · 19/09/2026 08:44

Releasemeplease · 18/09/2026 20:41

Because there are laws about using physical restraint and as i understand it physical restaint is only supposed to be used in emergency or extreme circumstances.

The law says you are allowed to use reasonable force to protect yourself. Painlessly restraining a child's wrists for a minimal period after several verbal attempts to tell him to stop assaulting you is an entirely reasonable use of force.

WhatNoRaisins · 19/09/2026 08:46

I don't think what you did was wrong but I'd be reluctant to do it in case the parent started kicking off.

Releasemeplease · 19/09/2026 08:47

Takethehuntingquiche · 19/09/2026 08:35

A quick Google search will tell you what the law is. In this instance it would be lawful

I certainly would have had no idea in real time whether it was a lawful thing to do.
I googled searched it after I inexplicably got jumped on in this thead. And I still think there is dubeity about the legality of an adult doing this to a child even in this situation.

If the child's mother had taken exception to OP's action - and I'm amazed she didn't- and chose to make trouble for OP and put a different spin on what happened it definitely would not be clear cut.

I don't know if you are legally trained or not. Im certainly not. Im approaching this with a lay person's view point

SockPlant · 19/09/2026 08:48

this absolutely BATSHIT idea that nobody can tell another child to stop misbehaving, especially when the parent either says nothing or is ineffectual, is why so many kids are so badly behaved now.

(add the usual disclaimer that the people who are shit parents but get all in a knot if another adult tells their child to behave, are constantly bleating about "where's the village")

Sereine · 19/09/2026 08:50

JLou08 · 19/09/2026 07:40

I'd love to see some case law that backs up your claim that a 5 year old throwing grass is an incident where self-defence is warranted. That's one of the most outlandish claims I've seen on here.

Of course self defence is warranted. He had been asked to stop and ignored it, he was technically assaulting OP and ruining her food, and there was the potential at any time of the grass to get in her eye or for him to pick up a stick or stone and cause more serious injury. OP's use of force was limited only to what was reasonable to stop him doing that, she didn't hurt him.

You don't need case law, this one is covered by statute.

Tvradiorentals · 19/09/2026 08:51

I’m kind of relieved after reading the full OP. When I read the opening title I was picturing a poor child running around with the cuffs of their jumper secured to the waist of their trousers with a couple of safety pins. Now that would have been a step too far 😆

SockPlant · 19/09/2026 08:51

WhatNoRaisins · 19/09/2026 08:46

I don't think what you did was wrong but I'd be reluctant to do it in case the parent started kicking off.

if i did this and the parent started kicking off? they would be told in no uncertain terms to parent up and stop their child. And then i may, depending on their reaction, have thrown clods at them. Just to reinforce my point.

PinkLemons99 · 19/09/2026 08:59

I think you should have made your displeasure clear to the child’s mum and said something like

“Mary, will you feckin’ parent your own child now and stop him ruining our nice picnic!”

Sometimes parents need reminding about what their primary role is.

SockPlant · 19/09/2026 09:04

Why can't someone address the child directly first time it happens? I do.

WhatNoRaisins · 19/09/2026 09:23

I also think it should be perfectly normal to tell a child not to do something that's annoying or potentially dangerous. I've seen posts where people say they'd rather someone go and find them rather than speaking to their child directly which has always struck me as impractical.

Takethehuntingquiche · 19/09/2026 09:49

Tvradiorentals · 19/09/2026 08:51

I’m kind of relieved after reading the full OP. When I read the opening title I was picturing a poor child running around with the cuffs of their jumper secured to the waist of their trousers with a couple of safety pins. Now that would have been a step too far 😆

I think in this case it would be perfectly warranted!

I was at a public paddling pool once with a groups of friends & their kids. I was in my normal clothes supervising my kids. One of my friend's boys splashed me on purpose so I told him not to & I'd march him back to his mum if he did it again. You can guess the rest. I took hold of his arm & marched him back to my friend. I can't be doing with kids not following instructions and I'd be mortified if my dds did this & would have no problem another adult disciplining them if I wasn't there

ProjectFailScary · 19/09/2026 09:52

Gentle parenting gets on my nerves. No further comment, just that.

JLou08 · 19/09/2026 09:53

Sereine · 19/09/2026 08:50

Of course self defence is warranted. He had been asked to stop and ignored it, he was technically assaulting OP and ruining her food, and there was the potential at any time of the grass to get in her eye or for him to pick up a stick or stone and cause more serious injury. OP's use of force was limited only to what was reasonable to stop him doing that, she didn't hurt him.

You don't need case law, this one is covered by statute.

This is ridiculous. No one assaulted anyone but if OP did assault a child there is not a chance that she could get off with self defense over a 5 year old throwing grass. She should have just walked away.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2026 09:57

Tbh it sounds like the only thing you could have done!

His parents sound useless.

I don’t think you even “pinned” them from you OP, you just held them there for a moment. It’s not like it was prolonged.

The parents should have got up and physically intervened well before this point.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2026 09:59

JLou08 · 19/09/2026 09:53

This is ridiculous. No one assaulted anyone but if OP did assault a child there is not a chance that she could get off with self defense over a 5 year old throwing grass. She should have just walked away.

Away from her food?

The parents should have moved themselves to intervene.

No one is getting prosecuted out of this in a million years, whatever the ins and outs of “was it strictly self defence” / “was it assault?” Etc It wouldn’t pass the “public interest” test even if you could technically argue it was assault.

Theresmagicwheretheflowersgrow · 19/09/2026 10:04

Releasemeplease · 18/09/2026 20:41

Because there are laws about using physical restraint and as i understand it physical restaint is only supposed to be used in emergency or extreme circumstances.

Oh for gods sake Hmm

stichguru · 19/09/2026 10:07

I can't imagine parents like that not completely exploding at you if they thought you were even vaguely hurting their little monkey.

Wingingit73 · 19/09/2026 10:08

You didnt pin his wrists if was as described. Stay away from that family. Forget it

Wadsworthy · 19/09/2026 10:12

That ,mother was appalling. Poor teachers who are going to behave to deal with him, and could be disciplined for physically stopping him, as you did @Calmondeck

Bogstandardname · 19/09/2026 10:15

I actually thought you meant pinning his arms to his sides (his clothes) with a safety pin or such like. Doh.

LoafofSellotape · 19/09/2026 10:19

I wouldn't have touched someone else's child,I would've stood up and moved out of the way and continued to stand until the mother reprimanded him.