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AIBU to enforce lights out for my 7 year old bookworm?

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lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 21:50

Just wondering what others do with this.

DS7 is a complete bookworm. He’s been an early riser since birth and very rarely sleeps past 6am. He also gets v emotional/ratty/impulsive when tired (hard relate 😂). From this it seems clear to me that he needs a decent amount of sleep and therefore we've traditionally been quite protective of bedtime.

Lately though he’s been struggling to fall asleep, particularly if reading a juicy book. I initially assumed he was just needing less sleep as he gets older (and we have pushed bedtime back a bit), but his emotional regulation/impulse control seems to be getting worse, and he's waking earlier again.

At the moment, he can go upstairs and read whenever he likes after dinner (we eat early, usually around 5pm), but lights out is 8pm. If he wants me to read to him, he needs to be ready by 7, we read for 30–40 mins and then he has some time to read to himself until 8.

DH thinks we should just put him to bed and leave him to it (after stories with us if he wants them). That way he decides when to stop reading, and if he’s tired the next day, that's the consequence and he'll eventually learn how much sleep he needs. If he’s sassy at school or moody with his friends because he’s tired, that’s part of the lesson too.

Im usually a big fan of opportunities for independence but in this instance he’s SEVEN. IMO we should be holding the reins for a few more years, particularly as he genuinely seems incapable of sleeping in. In fact, as mentioned the later he goes to bed, the earlier he seems to wake up.

So what do you think?

YABU: I’m being overly strict and should let him experience the consequences until he learns.

YANBU: DH is expecting too much self-regulation from a 7yo and we should be enforcing lights out a while longer yet

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Wanttohelpbuthow · 17/09/2026 21:53

My 8 year old would read until midnight if I let her! I agree with you!

TwinMum89 · 17/09/2026 21:53

My 7 year old boy is the same. We allow him to read until 8.30am and then have to remember to go back up to tell him to go to sleep at that time. If we don’t, he just keeps reading. I don’t think he is old enough to understand that he feels so tired because he needs to go to sleep earlier. If we left him, he would constantly be going to bed late and be tired the next day.

apintofwine · 17/09/2026 21:55

I have similar with my newly 7yo boy - I'll ask him to switch lights out in x mins after I leave to go downstairs (usually around 15/20) and will specify time on the clock....but he will often appear downstairs around an hour/90mins later saying that hes only just turned lights out and can't sleep.

I think that is my failing as I should have gone up to check. I can't expect him to have extracted himself from book to check time, and I think same for your son. Reading can be very addictive...just one more page/chapter can mean time flies by and I think he's much too little at 7 to override that. I agree with you.

BudgetBuster · 17/09/2026 21:56

I'm 33 and can barely regulate myself if reading a good book 😂 Absolutely no way a 7 year old should have to learn those boundaries.

Perhaps the compromise is that he could perhaps stay up a little later on weekends?

staceyflack · 17/09/2026 21:58

Your husband's a moron.

lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 22:01

@BudgetBuster that made me laugh! But honestly, same! However DH's says this adds to his point, we both struggle to know when to put down a book so DS should have opportunities to learn for himself sooner rather than later. But I think there's time for that way later down the line, and right now we should be protecting his emotional range and learning capacity by making sure he sleeps!

Friday and Saturday lights out is 830, but have been recently wondering if that was a bit stingy. I was working on the basis that keeping bedtime semi regular (special occasions aside) is meant to be best practice so half an hour either side felt about right 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Raptors · 17/09/2026 22:02

Anyone who reads avidly as an adult knows how addictive it can be to read just one more chapter. Expecting a 7 year old to have better self control than an adult is just bloody daft and it won't teach him any consequences because he will just continue to read.

He needs guidance and boundaries enforcing on when he needs to stop reading as you've suggested. I would in this instance completely ignore your husband, I suspect from his suggestions he's not a reader.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 17/09/2026 22:03

and if he’s tired the next day, that's the consequence and he'll eventually learn how much sleep he needs

He's 7! He's told how much sleep he needs and thats reinforced by you as parents. Your DH is treating him as a teenager with that approach

Choice4567 · 17/09/2026 22:03

You read to him for 40 minutes?! I’m seriously impressed, I barely have the stamina to read out loud for 10!

BlueMum16 · 17/09/2026 22:05

Maybe he needs to be more active during waking hours to help him sleep.

If he's going up bed to at ,5zpm to read that's a long time for the body to be resting.

What does he do at 6am when he wakes? Is he picking up the book again? If so I'd be tempted to leave the book outside the bedroom so he has no incentive to wake at 6am.

BudgetBuster · 17/09/2026 22:08

lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 22:01

@BudgetBuster that made me laugh! But honestly, same! However DH's says this adds to his point, we both struggle to know when to put down a book so DS should have opportunities to learn for himself sooner rather than later. But I think there's time for that way later down the line, and right now we should be protecting his emotional range and learning capacity by making sure he sleeps!

Friday and Saturday lights out is 830, but have been recently wondering if that was a bit stingy. I was working on the basis that keeping bedtime semi regular (special occasions aside) is meant to be best practice so half an hour either side felt about right 🤷🏼‍♀️

Absolutely it's something your son will have to learn... but there's a time and place. Hes 7 for goodness sake, he's far too young to understand and regulate.

I agree with the 30 minute swing. It's what we have here too. My stepson is 14 and he still has a lights out time of 10pm midweek and 10.30pm weekends (unless some sort of occasion). And I know lots of people will think that's ridiculous at his age but he cannot regulate and he's an absolute horror with no sleep. He's been fighting with his mum every morning and missing the school bus since going back to school as he is too tired to get up in the morning (no curfew at her house). Ee have zero arguments here and he's never missed a bus, is always ready at least 5/10 mins before we need to leave the house.

I think we are all guilty of wanting to watch in more episode, read one more chapter. But we need to parent our kids too and make sure they are getting enough sleep.

puppysleepdeprivation · 17/09/2026 22:08

Seven is too young to make many decisions without parental in-put, imo. There's nothing wrong with having rules and a bit of structure in place.

WilliamsWishWellingtons · 17/09/2026 22:11

For our bookworm we have the compromise of an audiobook to fall asleep to. A story with us and then ten or twenty minutes on the timer for the audiobook. He rarely makes it to the story timing out before he’s snoring!

Noonenew · 17/09/2026 22:18

Of course you should turn out the lights. A 7 year old is not going to equate reading a book for as long as they want with dysregulated behavior due to lack of sleep!

lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 22:20

@BlueMum16 I think I would if the 6am wake started when he learned to read. But he's always woken early. He used to get up early, so the whole house was up. At least now he reads till the rest of us get up around 7.

When he isn't reading he never stops moving tbh. Wrestling with his siblings, we walk/cycle to school, go to the park for an hour day unless it's chucking it down or someone's house in the village if it's wet. I always offer a boardgame after dinner but sometimes hed rather go get ready for bed so he gets more reading time. We have an exercise bike in the lounge and sometimes he sits on that... whilst reading 😆

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AltitudeCheck · 17/09/2026 22:23

My mum used to have to take the light bulb out to stop me staying up really late reading!

Can you switch the order of the bedtime routine around so he reads on his own first and reading with you is the final bit of the routine and then you say goodnight and the book goes downstairs with you?

mynameiscalypso · 17/09/2026 22:23

I have a 7 year old who would happily read until late. We finally turn the light off around 9.30 but he doesn’t get up until 7.30 or later so that is probably similar overall. I do love it though when he sometimes falls asleep under a book because ai remember doing that myself as a child!

Grumpyoldcat · 17/09/2026 22:26

He needs boundaries regarding sleep time. I agree with you.

lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 22:26

@AltitudeCheck oo I like that !

He's so far said he can't sleep without reading for a bit. But if he was all tucked up, read to himself and then had a parent read a chapter or two when he's all cosy that could be a winner. And would make solo parent bedtimes with multiple kids wanting stories a lot easier!

Will give it a shot! Thank you.

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Jeschara · 17/09/2026 22:26

staceyflack · 17/09/2026 21:58

Your husband's a moron.

Dreadful response. The husband is saying that if his son is tired the next day it is a consequence of the late night reading.
I don't agree but calling the Dad a moron with nothing to add puts you in a very bad light.

lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 22:44

@Choice4567 we're reading harry potter! My voice can manage 1-2 chapters, then I get hoarse 😅 otherwise I think we'd be there all night. So many chapters end on cliffhangers!

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Blondeshavemorefun · 17/09/2026 22:47

BudgetBuster · 17/09/2026 21:56

I'm 33 and can barely regulate myself if reading a good book 😂 Absolutely no way a 7 year old should have to learn those boundaries.

Perhaps the compromise is that he could perhaps stay up a little later on weekends?

Same and often go to bed 11 and never thing is 1.16 🙀😂

AdeleRochester · 17/09/2026 22:58

I see both points of view, but I’m 45 years older than your lad and don’t self regulate my reading.

If my DH doesn’t “encourage” me to switch it off I fall asleep with my kindle in my hand.

Sleep is really important (I’m a terrible hypocrite) so I would gently enforce lights out.

But I would also allow the occasional “read as long as you like” session on holiday - reading through the night is wonderful!

Choice4567 · 17/09/2026 23:04

lemoncurdcupcake · 17/09/2026 22:44

@Choice4567 we're reading harry potter! My voice can manage 1-2 chapters, then I get hoarse 😅 otherwise I think we'd be there all night. So many chapters end on cliffhangers!

I just can’t! I lose the will after a chapter of any of my 8 year olds books. It’s the reading aloud part, I hate it!

lemoncurdcupcake · 18/09/2026 02:31

Choice4567 · 17/09/2026 23:04

I just can’t! I lose the will after a chapter of any of my 8 year olds books. It’s the reading aloud part, I hate it!

In that case you're doing blooming well to even manage anything up to 10 minutes really. No fun when you're enduring rather than enjoying something.

Perhaps you could stick on an audiobook and enjoy listening together instead of reading aloud. There are loads on Spotify

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