Why hasn’t Michael Jackson been cancelled??

A combo of:

Not convicted
An enormous amount of super fans who completely believed his innocence
More fans who didn’t pay enough attention to it anyway
An absolutely legendary contribution to music – Jimmy Saville never did anything that well-loved, so you can’t compare.

I believe he was guilty and still listen to his songs.

Well he was a white heterosexual male celebrity so the rules never applied to him.

He was what now?

We’ll never know the actual truth.

I believe his childhood messed him up, the abuse and unimaginable fame. I don’t think he ever grew up, he was still a child and enjoyed the company of children and being around them.

If he was guilty then yes, erase all his stuff.

If he wasn’t then he should be remembered

And here lies the problem, we’ll never know and we can’t go off gut feeling so what do we do?

It's a mix of
(A) despite being an obvious paedo he was an iconic and brilliant entertainer. There's enough people who care more about the latter than the former.

(B) he died somewhat young and has been dead for a while so there's more of a mystique that overshadowed the nonce-ness.

I cant listen to him now but LOVED his music at the time, I used to take the MJ dance class at Pineapple studios back in the day.

He sort of bridged the era where things like that were accepted to almost the beginning of the current era where celebrities cant get away with as much.

Believe the victims? That's usually quite popular on MN

Because he’s popular. It’s as simple as that.

People put their desire to enjoy his music ahead of a societal need to wake up to the tactics these powerful abusers use and how many people are both directly and I directly supporting them to do it.

People still listen so radio stations still play it. The Jackson family are trying to cleanse his story with the new films and a new generation are being told he was ‘misunderstood’. It is appalling paedophile apologism.

That's not relevant as u know. Rolf Harris is dead but they aren't going to start replaying his animal programmes

It’s a good job MN don’t run the courts then.

Previously mentioned, I have my views on it but I am well aware I could be totally wrong.

He had the money to buy his innocence.

He had the money for ‘victims’ to try it on.

I don't know how anyone can hear the victims stories and think he's innocent.

Also most of his music is shit, I never understood what all the weird grunting was about.

I remember recently watching something on the telly about his death, police body cam footage? And in his bedroom were posters of baby related items-say baby formula? So posters of babies basically, yuck
I watched the netflix documentary a while ago ,I had heard the rumours about him but that was very disturbing
Never been a fan of his music, too naff for me, I turn off the radio if any of his songs come on
Our DS’s , both in their 20’s cant stand him and our DD age 16 doesn't listen to his music so maybe he will be cancelled in a few years, fingers crossed

Well he is dead for one thing so cancelled out of life if that is a consolation at all. He was NEVER found guilty of anything and most people still assume innocent until found guilty of something.
More holes in the claims against him that in a strippers pantyhose.
People who once accused him have since retracted the accusations.
People who once said he was innocent realised they would earn more money and attention by retracting their comments.

He was found not guilty and I will continue to attend Michael jackson tribute bands - planning to go to another concert in London a month’s time - he was a musical genius

He was guilty as fucking sin.

But money talks - think about what he was worth and how much money his music continues to generate compared to Rolf et al. That's why.

Sums it up really. Op many posters have essentially said this - so hope you understand now even if you don’t agree.

It’s quite simple.

Saville is a poor comparison.

No I don’t “have to” seperate. I personally believe his (alleged if you want legalese) crimes are enough to make his music no longer playable. Plenty other talented folk to enjoy who weren’t raping kids.

I don't get it. Every time one of his songs comes on the radio it feels wrong. So wrong and so celebrated still.

Such as? David Bowie? John Lennon? Elvis? Funny how nobody seems to give a shit about them. I’m not saying you to like any of them, but my point is a broader one.

OP why has Trump not been 'cancelled'? He is a living breathing sex offender and ruler of the free world? Perhaps worry more for the ones that still walk freely amongst us and can still cause harm rather than any perception of the dead.

I love a bit of Jacko. Billie Jean came on the radio last week at work and nobody had a meltdown, it’s just MN that has a problem with him

Good point! 😣

I agree with your general point but what did John Lennon or David Bowie do? 👀

‘….A childlike man
the money grabbing chancers …’

this is the propaganda

I can not separate the music from the nonce
he is cancelled to me

It’s fascinating reading different opinions on here. I’ve watched a lot about him over the years and I do think he was predatory. For that reason I don’t listen to his music and I do judge people who do.

Beat women and have sex with under age girls.