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The Government needs to do something

251 replies

Noneverever · 11/09/2026 19:56

yay, UK government.

Let’s just do nothing as the world edges itself towards annihilation driven solely by billionaire men hawking for more money.

10% chance we’ll all be dead in 3.5 yrs. Something needs to be done. Now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3eq7kl5l00o

A hand on a phone displaying several AI apps including ChatGPT, Claude, Copilot, DeepSeek and Gemini

UK government rejects 'kill switch' idea for dangerous AI

The Cabinet Office, which leads on AI safety, says the UK "cannot simply turn AI off".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3eq7kl5l00o

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SmallTreeDeepRoots · 13/09/2026 12:56

We need to harness the momentum of the “no smart phones for kids” movement and increase the scope to limit our use of technology, particularly for entertainment or distraction. Make evidence-based arguments to show how it’s harming our mental health and attention span. A multi-staged resistance, starting with limiting phones and internet for kids, getting phones out of bedrooms (do I really want tech bros listening to me sleep or fuck?), make it unacceptable to listen to music or videos without headphones in public, then gradually to be playing phone games in public. Like smoking. Small cultural changes that alter our default habits. Let’s refuse to use AI chatbots. Use paper diaries, post it notes. Cal Newport made a rule to only use text messaging/whatsapp to arrange to meet in person instead of as a social alternative. A cultural change would probably be more effective than regulation. Starve the beast!

Noneverever · 13/09/2026 12:58

WecanbeheroeslikeBowie · 13/09/2026 12:22

It's humans, presumably with kids and grandkids who have started this shit with creating AI and pushing for it to be bigger and better.

I think a big issue actually is it’s been created by young rich men who DON’T have kids. Everyone know the young and childless have very different perspectives.

Also, they have more ability to escape more scenarios - as the article says they’re buying up vast swathes of land to live off

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PamelaColmansMustard · 13/09/2026 12:59

MsGreying · 13/09/2026 12:41

HAve we watched Terminator recently? And the Robot Olympics?

Going further back, The Demon Seed?

EasternStandard · 13/09/2026 12:59

Noneverever · 13/09/2026 12:58

I think a big issue actually is it’s been created by young rich men who DON’T have kids. Everyone know the young and childless have very different perspectives.

Also, they have more ability to escape more scenarios - as the article says they’re buying up vast swathes of land to live off

In that article you linked it starts off with the guy saying why he got into it. He lists the positives.

There are positives but like nuclear it has powerful negatives.

Winter2020 · 13/09/2026 13:00

OonaStubbs · 13/09/2026 10:36

We need to destroy all computers, and anything with a microprocessor in it and go back to the old ways that served us well for so many years. It is literally the only solution.

OK you go first. No more mumsnet for you.

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:11

Waitingfordoggo · 13/09/2026 12:31

Oh gosh yes, don’t let anything get in the way of your funny images; that is definitely important for you and the rest of humanity.

Yes. And the fact I use it for work. We can use it sensibly and safely for good. We can build guardrails and use it for productive uses. We can build good AI to combat bad AI

Dragonscaledaisy · 13/09/2026 13:12

Waitingfordoggo · 13/09/2026 12:39

Absolutely. It’s also been shown very clearly over the past decade or so in people’s attitudes to the climate emergency. Unwilling to give up their Temu and Shein purchases, unwilling to give up their multiple flights a year while pointing at China and saying ‘it’s all their fault’. It’s just sheer stupidity and self-absorption.

Also those unwilling to give up their gas boilers - another prime example of the type of people who post on MN with endless excuses while expecting others to do something.

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:12

Winter2020 · 13/09/2026 13:00

OK you go first. No more mumsnet for you.

She's being sarcastic

Waitingfordoggo · 13/09/2026 13:16

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:11

Yes. And the fact I use it for work. We can use it sensibly and safely for good. We can build guardrails and use it for productive uses. We can build good AI to combat bad AI

Is making ‘funny images’ sensible use?

Noneverever · 13/09/2026 13:19

Waitingfordoggo · 13/09/2026 13:16

Is making ‘funny images’ sensible use?

I’d stop talking to this poster tbh - she’s either limited intelligence or posting like this on purpose, it’s not worth your energy

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Kalanthe · 13/09/2026 13:25

Realistically, what can the UK government do? It's between Anthropic and Open AI, the two companies currently capable of creating AI that will become dangerous. Both are US based. There is nothing the UK can do to stop them. If this dangerous type of AI gets developed in the US and decides to start hacking infrastructure, it will easily access it in the UK through the internet. It's physically impossible to create a kill switch for that. Not to mention an AI agent in the US building a bioweapon there which will then spread across borders the way covid did. Good luck blocking a deadly virus with legislation

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:27

You can't un-invent AI and destroy technological process. So I assume everyone is for stricter safeguarding and rules and regulations right? Not banning it completely. Using AI safely

Kalanthe · 13/09/2026 13:31

Winter2020 · 13/09/2026 01:36

What AI do you think is going to kill you in the next 3 years? At the moment the robots that dance about can't even get up again if they fall over. How do you think they are going to kill you?

I think robot armies are a terrifying thought for the future but I don't think a realistic timescale is 3 years.

  • Bioweapon created by AI - eg a deadly virus
  • AI hacking infrastructure - eg hacking all power plants in the UK and boom the whole island has no electricity ever again. What do you think would happen then?

If you think robots shooting people in the streets like Terminator are the only threat then clearly you haven't been following the news.

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Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:32

Waitingfordoggo · 13/09/2026 13:16

Is making ‘funny images’ sensible use?

What's the issue if I use AI to make funny edits of our family photos and holiday pics? Have I harmed the world in any way?

Gengha · 13/09/2026 13:33

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:32

What's the issue if I use AI to make funny edits of our family photos and holiday pics? Have I harmed the world in any way?

Does AI not use huge amounts of energy and water?

MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 13:33

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:32

What's the issue if I use AI to make funny edits of our family photos and holiday pics? Have I harmed the world in any way?

Aren't you concerned that your images, the faces of you and your family, are stored?

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:35

Noneverever · 13/09/2026 13:19

I’d stop talking to this poster tbh - she’s either limited intelligence or posting like this on purpose, it’s not worth your energy

Really sunshine? I'm perfectly intelligent. I just don't see doom and Armageddon. I use AI for work. For researching stuff I need to know. To excel work to some python coding. All very useful.

Kalanthe · 13/09/2026 13:36

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:27

You can't un-invent AI and destroy technological process. So I assume everyone is for stricter safeguarding and rules and regulations right? Not banning it completely. Using AI safely

The problem is not today's AI which is not a threat. It's about stopping companies from developing superintelligent AI which could become deadly. At the moment two companies in the world are close to it and someone needs to stop them. They are close to developing AI models which are self-improving and so sophisticated, humans would lose control over them because we're too dumb to understand how they work. This paired with the fact that we still haven't got an idea how to align AI with human values is a recipe for a complete disaster

Frequency · 13/09/2026 13:37

Noneverever · 13/09/2026 12:53

I am not saying this to be rude but you don’t understand the issue. AI is close to being out of control of humans. That’s the whole issue. There are no human coders at Anthropic anymore. AI codes itself. It’s has got MUCH closer to Super intelligence MUCH quicker than the AI experts realised and this is why they’re panicking. Once it’s there, it’s out of our hands. Full stop.

I'm not sure I'm the one who doesn't understand. When Anthropic says they don't have humans writing code anymore, they don't mean that AI is creating itself; it cannot do that yet, at least not for anything more powerful than a basic chatbot.

They have humans planning the architecture, i.e this is what we are going to code, and these are the functions we are going to call to make it work, and humans are writing the technical prompts to feed the AI.

All the AI is doing is writing the actual code, which it has been used to do for years.

WaryCyanStork · 13/09/2026 13:38

Burntoutmumm · 13/09/2026 12:43

@WaryCyanStork minimise your use of AI, spread awareness in your real life and online. Sign petitions, protest..... or do nothing because what is the point in life anyways. At least we will all get to enjoy a couple of "funny memes" before the extinction of humanity huh

I don't use AI (except one built into a work system, which I can't avoid). I have serious concerns about the environmental and social impacts of AI, and discuss these with people around me. I just don't believe we're all about to get wiped out by it.

Even if I'm wrong, none of those solutions would prevent AI being used by a bad actor from outside the UK. If I'm lying on my AI-induced death bed in 6 months time, I'll eat my hat but I won't regret not spending the last months of my life panicking over something I can't control.

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:39

MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 13:33

Aren't you concerned that your images, the faces of you and your family, are stored?

No because of the data retention setting I chose with chatgpt

Vi6Green · 13/09/2026 13:48

How are people not using it expecting to keep up in the job market?

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:48

Gengha · 13/09/2026 13:33

Does AI not use huge amounts of energy and water?

Yep. As does everything we do with the internet? I also use it for productive work purposes. The waste heat can also be repurposed as well

Yupyh · 13/09/2026 13:52

MelissaLovedMantari · 13/09/2026 13:44

Hmm. There has to be some payback for providing you with a toy.

https://www.wired.me/story/what-happens-to-your-photos-after-you-upload-them-to-chatgpt

The chats are saved for a bit. And once I'm done I delete them. I even have the don't train option on as well.