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AIBU to think many people of the UK lack confidence in the current government?

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CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 10:45

AIBU to think that the majority of people in the UK don't have any confidence in the current government, with an unelected Prime Minister at its' helm?

Would people be willing to vote on a petition to have a parliamentary debate on this matter, to encourage this government to have a snap General Election? This would give the people - the tax payers - as say in who is running the country. Democracy in action, if you will.

AIBU - people are happy with Labour and the unelected PM

YANBU - people have a democratic right to vote for who they want to run the country and right now, the majority don't have confidence in the current government.

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lazyarse123 · 09/09/2026 15:55

Spoonfeddoomfed · 09/09/2026 10:58

I lack confidence in the UK population and media. The triple lock must be scrapped. It’s madness. Do we trust pensioners - many of which are pretty selfish and don’t understand the wider economic context- and the daily mail not to whip people up into thinking they’re being robbed? No we don’t. So the policy won’t go through and people’s lives will keep getting worse.

How fucking dare you say that pensioners are selfish and don't understand. I was understanding this shit before you were born.
I have 3 children and never expected to get special treatment for childcare issues and annual leave preferences, we dealt with it all without the moaning that goes on today.
The 2 child benefit cap should be put back in place, if you can't afford them don't have them.
You could try understanding that childcare costs and house prices are not the fault of today's pensioners. Maybe stop foreign aid especially to countrues that have a space programme.

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 15:58

lazyarse123 · 09/09/2026 15:55

How fucking dare you say that pensioners are selfish and don't understand. I was understanding this shit before you were born.
I have 3 children and never expected to get special treatment for childcare issues and annual leave preferences, we dealt with it all without the moaning that goes on today.
The 2 child benefit cap should be put back in place, if you can't afford them don't have them.
You could try understanding that childcare costs and house prices are not the fault of today's pensioners. Maybe stop foreign aid especially to countrues that have a space programme.

The remarks about pensioners not understanding aside (I don't agree) the triple lock probably does need scrapping. Ageing population etc. It should be means tested.

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:00

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 15:52

Despite 14 years of Tory government? Boris Johnson? The revolving door of Tory Prime Ministers who were also “unelected” by your definition? Amazing how quickly the hypocrisy kicks in...

I've never voted Conservative before. there is no hypocrisy, though I know it makes you feel better to suggest it. Kemi Badenoch has never been leader before. She's leader now. I'd be voting for her party..

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JeanSimmons · 09/09/2026 16:02

YANBU. I have no time for Burnham whatsoever.

JeanSimmons · 09/09/2026 16:02

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:00

I've never voted Conservative before. there is no hypocrisy, though I know it makes you feel better to suggest it. Kemi Badenoch has never been leader before. She's leader now. I'd be voting for her party..

Same.

Jc2001 · 09/09/2026 16:02

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 10:45

AIBU to think that the majority of people in the UK don't have any confidence in the current government, with an unelected Prime Minister at its' helm?

Would people be willing to vote on a petition to have a parliamentary debate on this matter, to encourage this government to have a snap General Election? This would give the people - the tax payers - as say in who is running the country. Democracy in action, if you will.

AIBU - people are happy with Labour and the unelected PM

YANBU - people have a democratic right to vote for who they want to run the country and right now, the majority don't have confidence in the current government.

'They' voted for labour. That's what they have.

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 16:04

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:00

I've never voted Conservative before. there is no hypocrisy, though I know it makes you feel better to suggest it. Kemi Badenoch has never been leader before. She's leader now. I'd be voting for her party..

Your position is hypocritical if you’re fine with the Tory Party doing exactly what you’re now attacking Burnham/Labour for. Badenoch served in the Johnson, Truss and Sunak governments too. Apparently it only becomes an outrage when Labour does it.

emmetgirl · 09/09/2026 16:08

Here we go.

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:09

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 16:04

Your position is hypocritical if you’re fine with the Tory Party doing exactly what you’re now attacking Burnham/Labour for. Badenoch served in the Johnson, Truss and Sunak governments too. Apparently it only becomes an outrage when Labour does it.

Are you saying that Labour MPs did not complain about it when they were in opposition?

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lazyarse123 · 09/09/2026 16:11

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 15:58

The remarks about pensioners not understanding aside (I don't agree) the triple lock probably does need scrapping. Ageing population etc. It should be means tested.

I would be happy for mine to be means tested, I would probably get more but how would that work with the contributions people have paid in? Plus the cost of doing it might not be worth it.

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:11

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 15:40

'If you find yourself in a bad situation, the first rule is - don’t do anything hasty that will make it worse.'

In that case why did Labour get rid of Starmer and install a chancer like Burnham?

@EstoyRobandoSuCasa ?

'If you find yourself in a bad situation, the first rule is - don’t do anything hasty that will make it worse.'

In that case why did Labour get rid of Starmer and install a chancer like Burnham?

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Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:13

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 10:45

AIBU to think that the majority of people in the UK don't have any confidence in the current government, with an unelected Prime Minister at its' helm?

Would people be willing to vote on a petition to have a parliamentary debate on this matter, to encourage this government to have a snap General Election? This would give the people - the tax payers - as say in who is running the country. Democracy in action, if you will.

AIBU - people are happy with Labour and the unelected PM

YANBU - people have a democratic right to vote for who they want to run the country and right now, the majority don't have confidence in the current government.

I’ve lived with many governments, as an adult. Some people will always lack confidence in all governments, depending on their politics and what’s going on.

That’s life. 🤷‍♀️

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:18

Boomer55 · 09/09/2026 16:13

I’ve lived with many governments, as an adult. Some people will always lack confidence in all governments, depending on their politics and what’s going on.

That’s life. 🤷‍♀️

I don't remember ever feeling that a government is putting women and girls at higher risk of sex attacks, unlike this Labour government.

And not only that they won't provide us with the facts about immigrant sex crime data. Because they know the facts will prove it.

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Tryagain26 · 09/09/2026 16:22

More people have confidence in the current government than they have in any of the other parties.
I don't think you understand how the democratic system works in the UK.
Our current Prime Minister has been elected legally and democratically. We don't vote for a Prime Minister when we vote and we never have. We don't have a presidential system like in the USA. We elect an MP to represent us. The Party who has most MPs elect their leader and that person becomes the Prime Minister. That has always been the system.
Andy Burnham was elected as an MP, he is a member of the Labour Party and he was elected by them to be their leader so he is the Prime Minister.

5128gap · 09/09/2026 16:22

You're asking two seperate questions with two seperate answers there.
Confidence in the government is as low as it is under any government. 45% of people almost never trust the government.
Confidence in Burnham is much higher. 46% view him favourably and he is streaks ahead of any other political leader in the uk.

EmeraldRoulette · 09/09/2026 16:23

@CoventryCity I get the sense that you voted Labour and you are disappointed? I’m quite confused by that sort of person because I think they have done the things I was expecting anyway. Maybe I wasn’t expecting some of it to be quite as bad…

saraclara · 09/09/2026 16:27

Spoonfeddoomfed · 09/09/2026 11:30

If you say so.

Winter fuel allowance. My mum put that towards her new skis last year. She took 2 skiing holidays last year, a cruise, a trekking holiday and 3 city breaks. And she STILL gets the winter fuel allowance even after the changes. She fully supports the government saying that pensioners don’t need these freebies and yet the screaming outrage from many pensioners and the media when the government tried to remove it from those like her was hysterical. These people aren’t willing to think of anyone other than themselves. How do you govern in such a situation?

Anyone with that kind of spending power will not get (or at least keep) the winter fuel allowance.

She will have received it, but HMRC will have taken it back in full, through the tax system.

saraclara · 09/09/2026 16:34

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 15:58

The remarks about pensioners not understanding aside (I don't agree) the triple lock probably does need scrapping. Ageing population etc. It should be means tested.

It already is, in a very blunt way. I no longer get it as I'm not on pension credit.

Full means testing is incredibly expensive and would cost more than the government would save. And the process would have to be gone through every single year, making it even more expensive, and difficult for the very elderly who might not be able to fill in the detailed forms every year. It would be like another tax return in its complexity.

So what happens is that the WFA is paid to all of us, and the taxman takes it all back from most of us. It's a pretty ridiculous system, but apparently there's no alternative that wouldn't cost the earth.

Tryagain26 · 09/09/2026 16:39

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:18

I don't remember ever feeling that a government is putting women and girls at higher risk of sex attacks, unlike this Labour government.

And not only that they won't provide us with the facts about immigrant sex crime data. Because they know the facts will prove it.

Those statistics have never been collected by any Government of any colour.
I think you just want to believe what you believe.
The facts are crime is lower now than it has been at any time. . Rates of homicide in England and Wales are the lowest they have been since 1977. Domestic burglary has decreased by about 50% since 2010. So has vehicle theft, and phone theft, has fallen by 70% over the same period.
Reported crime against women has increased but previously a lot of crime against women wasn't reported at all or it wasn't even considered a crime previously many were written off as domestics, and coercive control wasn't a crime, rape wasn't reported because in many cases women weren't believed and rape in marriage was legal anyway.
There is no evidence that migrants are any more likely to commit violence against women than other men. But people like someone to blame and usually that is someone different from themselves.
The truth is men whatever colour they are are the problem .

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 16:41

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:09

Are you saying that Labour MPs did not complain about it when they were in opposition?

Of course they did. That's what opposition parties do.

Your'e a voter... yet only seem to care about this issue when it's a party you dislike hence the double standards.

Tryagain26 · 09/09/2026 16:42

lazyarse123 · 09/09/2026 15:55

How fucking dare you say that pensioners are selfish and don't understand. I was understanding this shit before you were born.
I have 3 children and never expected to get special treatment for childcare issues and annual leave preferences, we dealt with it all without the moaning that goes on today.
The 2 child benefit cap should be put back in place, if you can't afford them don't have them.
You could try understanding that childcare costs and house prices are not the fault of today's pensioners. Maybe stop foreign aid especially to countrues that have a space programme.

I am a pensioner and I do think the triple lock should be abolished. I would be very much happier for resources to be geared towards young families instead of me.
And I feel the same way about the winter fuel allowance. I am eligible for it but I don't need it.
I would also be very happy to pay NI on my pension.
I see many young families struggling and it's not fair

AmberSpy · 09/09/2026 16:42

We had an election barely two years ago, for god's sake 🙄

soddingspiderseason · 09/09/2026 16:43

Tiresome nonsense. I saw PM’s Questions today and was so pleased with the maturity shown by this government.

HandPulledNoodles · 09/09/2026 16:46

lazyarse123 · 09/09/2026 16:11

I would be happy for mine to be means tested, I would probably get more but how would that work with the contributions people have paid in? Plus the cost of doing it might not be worth it.

But people haven’t really “paid into” the State Pension there’s no personal pension pot. Today’s workers largely fund today’s pensioners. And with an ageing population, there are now more over-65s than under-16s, with proportionately fewer workers supporting more pensioners. Something has to give the current system can’t just carry on indefinitely.

CoventryCity · 09/09/2026 16:52

Tryagain26 · 09/09/2026 16:22

More people have confidence in the current government than they have in any of the other parties.
I don't think you understand how the democratic system works in the UK.
Our current Prime Minister has been elected legally and democratically. We don't vote for a Prime Minister when we vote and we never have. We don't have a presidential system like in the USA. We elect an MP to represent us. The Party who has most MPs elect their leader and that person becomes the Prime Minister. That has always been the system.
Andy Burnham was elected as an MP, he is a member of the Labour Party and he was elected by them to be their leader so he is the Prime Minister.

Can you take me through how he was elected an MP step by step? Before during and after? Thanks.

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