AIBU to share this Reform exposé from C4?

The distraction attempts are getting increasingly desperate aren't they.

Corruption has seeped through every party. Were you so worked up when Keith Vaz was notorious for dodgy activities? Expenses scandles, freebies, antisemitism, and criminal convictions don't faze you? The real reason Reform and Farage gets the heat is who he proposes to go after if he gets in.

Foreigners was mentioned. Quite the predictable coupling when it comes to criticising Reform. If people don't want that addressing, maybe not raise it.

Do you think what Reform did, circumventing funding laws, is acceptable?

It's a simple yes no question

I think this is fair.

We should all know by now that Reform supporters lose all power of rational thought as soon as foreigners are mentioned and they can't possibly be expected to engage in an intelligent debate about Reform's illegal funding arrangements when they have been triggered by that word.

Vaz is no longer a member of parliament, he is long gone having had his reputation totally trashed.

Quite different from a currently active leader of a political party, and your attempts at distraction won't work.

There are tons of threads discussing asylum seekers as you well know, you are on most of them.

This one is about Reform's corruption. I know it is upsetting for you, but you can always scroll on by.

Exactly.

Its desperate times, isn't it?
They score the worst possible own goal by discrediting Starmer, only to see him replaced with a PM who is making Labour more electable, not less.
They scrape the bottom of the barrel for any wrong un and simpleton willing to stand for them, who then proceed to discredit them on a daily basis.
Their only vote winner of stopping the boats is being quietly progressed by the government.
And their leader is now firmly in a trap of his own making.
I think its safe to say things have not gone..well?, And there are some very embarrassed people who couldn't have backed a wronger horse if they'd put their life savings on Ned the retired donkey in the 4.40 at Aintree, who are now desperately trying to save face.

Maybe Farage could resign again, hold another by-election. That will stop the scrutiny. It might get more donations from his supporters too. So more money for Nige.

Em, no. The poster you replied to said reform supports won't care because “foreigners”.

That you saw the word foreigners and immediately jumped to asylum seekers and rapists proves their point perfectly.

Lee Anderson: I can't answer questions on the allegations because Reform has started a full internal investigation

Ranvir Singh: Who is leading the investigation?

Lee Anderson: I don't know because it hasn't started yet

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I suspect there was a lot more filmed that we didn’t get to see.

Perhaps they are saving that for the prosecution….

I do wonder what this will mean for the Clacton constituency - will it be yet another by election before the year is out?

The footage is damning and I don't think Reform can rely on claiming it's a hoax on one hand, and dismissing senior staff involved on the other. If it's a hoax there's no need to dismiss people. If it's not a hoax, then Farage is party to what seems to be a very clear cut corruption case. If Farage and at least two other staff are implicated, how far does this rot go? Reform is not a large outfit.

Err no, I saw the word and knew what it was referring to, as it always is when Farage is mentioned on here for the 150th time.

You're back, excellent.

Would you mind answering the question. Do you approve of Reform attempting to avoid the laws on political donations?

Well the thread is about Reform so of course Farage will be mentioned. What an odd comment.

You seem rattled LHF.

It is honestly so unpatriotic and insulting to our democracy to claim that all our politicians and political parties are corrupt.

I do think Reform are done as a serious political force. Their hardcore supporters won't be put off, of course, but I do think they've made themselves unelectable. I think the real challenge now is how we rectify the damage they've done, and rid our political discourse of the cynicism and rage-baiting they've infected it with.

When evidence is presented, that's unbiased and not led by political motivation, I will make my mind up. An investigation has started so forgive me if I don't favourably join in on the witch hunt .

The party doesn't do itself any favours with some of their representatives: Ann Widdecombe and Suella Braverman excluded.

You know you're in a cult when you find yourself unable to criticise it.

@BurntBroccoliI suspect there was a lot more filmed that we didn’t get to see.
Perhaps they are saving that for the prosecution….

Or maybe they are saving it for the defence...
The investigation will ask for the whole unredacted footage and that should be interesting.
Remember the BBC and the Trump footage that was altered ?
From Valley Times
"Farage Fights Back: Reform UK Slams Undercover Sting As A Hoax Over Foreign Funding Claims
Pressure is mounting on Nigel Farage and Reform UK following an explosive Channel 4 News investigation alleging that senior party figures discussed arrangements involving foreign-funded polling.
The undercover investigation, carried out by Verbatim, featured Reform UK head of policy James Orr and close Farage aide Dan Jukes speaking to people posing as a wealthy American businessman and his UK-based son.
According to the investigation, three polls commissioned by Reform UK were funded at a total cost of £32,500. The allegations have raised questions over whether the arrangements breached UK political funding rules, which strictly prohibit donations from foreign entities.
The Liberal Democrats have reported the allegations to the Metropolitan Police and Electoral Commission, while Labour has also referred the matter for investigation.
The Greens have also called for a thorough review. The Metropolitan Police says it is aware of the allegations and will assess the situation.
Reform UK strongly denies any wrongdoing and has branded the investigation a hoax carried out by foreign-funded climate change activists posing as prospective donors.
James Orr has also rejected the allegations, arguing that the money did not reach Reform UK and that the polling was arranged through an independent person and paid directly to an independent pollster.
Channel 4 says the undercover material was independently gathered by Verbatim and subsequently checked and verified by Channel 4 News.
The controversy comes as Reform UK gathers for its national conference in Birmingham, putting renewed scrutiny on the party’s finances and its leadership.
For now, the allegations remain just that, and no finding of criminal wrongdoing has been made."