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AIBU to think being wealthy is vastly overrated?

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ForLoudBrickMember · 25/08/2026 13:49

I know this will sound really out of touch and I apologies in advance if I offend anyone, but I’ve been reflecting on my life recently and I truly think it is the most overrated thing on the planet. I’m 35, total pre tax income of about £2 million with half coming from working as a partner oncologist in the states and half coming from active investing. DH makes slightly more, total household income of about £5 mil. Now I’ve done it I can say the following;

  1. It feels totally normal.
  2. It is incredibly isolating
  3. The pressure/difficulty is intense. Ours are still far too young for this and trying to avoid it but it’s very common the DC face intense pressure/stress.
  4. So so much sacrifice. I left everything behind in the UK, put off DC until late, missed out on so much etc.
  5. Being average isn’t much worse. People earning the average wage can still afford a comfortable house, decent car, food, occasional holiday etc. Mum was completely broke as a child and even that would’ve been fine if she didn’t make brain dead decisions constantly.

Yet the average person seems to believe it’s endless bliss, no stress and every rich person is a genius who never tires and never feels sad. AIBU?

OP posts:
BunnyLake · 29/08/2026 19:43

Perhaps you need to be more philanthropic OP. Look at our lovely Dolly (rip), mega rich and such a joyous person by giving loads of her money away and used it to do so much good. You may not be anywhere near her wealth but there is so much you can do with the excess money that’s making you miserable. It can truly give you purpose.

Pallisers · 29/08/2026 19:45

ForLoudBrickMember · 25/08/2026 14:37

You can definitely have genuine friends but you have to censor yourself to avoid upsetting people or sounding out of touch. It’s also very hard to ask for or get advice when it’s really rare to meet people as the same situation.

I just don't understand this. aren't you friends with other medical people? They are all in a similar bracket surely. I can appreciate you won't be meeting many wall street financiers in the mid west (now they're the guys making the money) but surely your circle includes enough well off people that you are in a similar grouping. Actually in the mid west you might be surprised who is wealthier than you. Suspect it is like New England where flash isn't popular.

And surely you can be friends with people who are doing ok but not super wealthy without much angst? I suppose if you want to holiday by private jet and eat out in 5 star restaurants every week and talk about money all the time you might find it difficult to find a group of friends but otherwise ... don't get it.

We are in the US. DH is a physician. I am in another profession. We make a lot of money. We mix with people who make a lot less, people who probably make a lot more and people who clearly make a ton more. We don't talk about money much. Our kids were no more pressured than other kids - and a lot less when it came to education as they didn't have to think about student aid/scholarships when it came to university.

Do you give a lot to charity? with those assets you could get very involved in supporting a charity you like. And if you are sick of it all you could become a doctor to the homeless/indigent - we know a few who do this. Not as lucrative but very fulfilling and their families are doing just fine.

BTMama1 · 29/08/2026 19:46

You are working hard and earning a lot. Clearly that is not making you happy. It sounds like you could work a bit less hard/fewer hours/give up work and have a pretty decent income. Something is keeping your nose to the grind stone, is it ambition? compulsion? expectations? What would you do if you were free to pursue all that you think you are sacrificing? We worked hard, sacrificed stuff made a decent income but decided we would retire early (relative to friends). Money provides you with choices that are not available to people with a lot less income and they work just as hard as you and have stresses you cannot imagine.

BunnyLake · 29/08/2026 19:46

ForLoudBrickMember · 25/08/2026 14:26

I was able to retire before I even moved to the states. It is a trap and was very depressing, I felt like I had no purpose in life and wasn’t contributing anything to society

Maybe it’s living in the US that’s actually making you miserable?

RuinartRuination · 29/08/2026 19:46

WhyIsThereGlitterEverywhere · 29/08/2026 19:41

You are choosing that rat race. I know it’s easy to get caught up in it, but you don’t need to do that. The best thing wealth can give you is freedom to do what you actually want to do.

I know. But it’s easier said than done to take yourself out of it. Just me, maybe easier.
But the children are at school, doing well, in sports teams, theatre groups, choirs etc etc. All my friends and support network are here doing the same thing. The rat race is all I’ve known for 20 years. It’s a great life in the main. And I don’t have the balls to test the alternative.

Scoffingbiscuits · 29/08/2026 19:52

You don't need to earn millions to send your children to a good school and to extracurricular activities. And you don't have to keep up with your ultra rich neighbours. It's a choice.

Baw92 · 29/08/2026 19:58

ForLoudBrickMember · 25/08/2026 13:49

I know this will sound really out of touch and I apologies in advance if I offend anyone, but I’ve been reflecting on my life recently and I truly think it is the most overrated thing on the planet. I’m 35, total pre tax income of about £2 million with half coming from working as a partner oncologist in the states and half coming from active investing. DH makes slightly more, total household income of about £5 mil. Now I’ve done it I can say the following;

  1. It feels totally normal.
  2. It is incredibly isolating
  3. The pressure/difficulty is intense. Ours are still far too young for this and trying to avoid it but it’s very common the DC face intense pressure/stress.
  4. So so much sacrifice. I left everything behind in the UK, put off DC until late, missed out on so much etc.
  5. Being average isn’t much worse. People earning the average wage can still afford a comfortable house, decent car, food, occasional holiday etc. Mum was completely broke as a child and even that would’ve been fine if she didn’t make brain dead decisions constantly.

Yet the average person seems to believe it’s endless bliss, no stress and every rich person is a genius who never tires and never feels sad. AIBU?

Sorry but based on your annual income, the portion that’s from investing and assuming you’ve made this level of income for a few years, you could both afford to stop working and live off investment income and still have a relatively comfortable standard of living.

So with respect and from someone who’s also wealthy (not quite the same level but way above average) get a grip!

If you’re not happy make a change. You only get one life. I don’t understand your comments about DC being under pressure either? Compared to children from most other households they’ll be living the dream.

I don’t mean to be rude by the way, I get money doesn’t buy you happiness, but it does buy you time and give you choices so you should use it however best you need to to afford that.

ForMauveLemur · 29/08/2026 19:58

It is almost certainly a fake post designed specifically to generate outrage. On forums like Mumsnet, this type of post is referred to as "trolling" or "rage-bait."
While it is impossible to definitively prove it is made up without knowing the author, the post relies heavily on fabricated timelines and classic internet tropes designed to provoke a highly emotional response.
Here is a breakdown of why this post is highly suspect:

  1. The Improbable Medical Timeline
The math for a 35-year-old making £1 million ($1.25+ million USD) as a "partner oncologist" in the US simply does not add up.
  • The Training: Becoming an oncologist in the US requires 4 years of undergraduate study, 4 years of medical school, 3 years of internal medicine residency, and 2 to 3 years of oncology fellowship.
  • The Age Factor: Even without gap years, a doctor typically finishes this training around age 31 or 32. If they transferred from the UK, the US often requires foreign-trained doctors to repeat residencies, adding even more time.
  • The Income: While oncologists are well-compensated, reaching "partner" status in a lucrative private practice and earning over a million dollars a year takes years of building a patient base and buying into the practice. Achieving this by 35 is exceptionally rare, if not impossible.
  1. Textbook "Rage-Bait" Tropes
The post hits every single trigger point guaranteed to infuriate an average forum user:
  • The Humble-Brag: Framing an astronomical £5 million household income as a burden or "overrated."
  • The Disconnect from Reality: Claiming that someone on an "average wage" can easily afford a comfortable house, a decent car, and holidays. In the current economic climate, this is glaringly out of touch and purposely written to invalidate the struggles of average earners.
  • Blaming Poverty on Character: Stating that being completely broke is fine unless you make "brain dead decisions." This implies poverty is solely a moral failure, which is a classic tactic used by trolls to spark fierce arguments.
  1. The Mumsnet Formula
This post reads like a masterpiece of internet trolling. It combines extreme wealth, immense privilege, condescension toward the working class, and a faux-innocent "Am I Being Unreasonable?" (AIBU) sign-off. It is engineered to make people angry so they will reply. The Verdict: You are right to be suspicious. It’s a carefully crafted fiction designed to get a rise out of people scrolling through the internet.
Sulley2222 · 29/08/2026 20:02

Is this rage-bait.....? At this point I would kill to just be able to go to the supermarket and not have to see what I can get for a fiver.

SuSmth4 · 29/08/2026 20:03

When I had a few situations in first class seats on my own I felt lonely and moved to standard with the masses, in the Christmas spirit etc. When I had more money once, I felt jealous of things less wealthy people were doing. Remember the grass is always greener.
Look at all the people who achieved what many would also like to, but it wasn't enough so they ended it or took many drink or dr ugs, for example in the entertainment industry, Avicii, Alexander McQueen, Keith Flint. They could have done what many only wished, but they still weren't happy.
I was told by a psychologist that it isn't always what's happening that makes a person feel bad, but how they look at it. Some people can have awful things happen but they're resilient to keep going, while others might end it all over something others would see as small.
I went to quite a rough school in a poor area, but was one of the more well off, and I stopped telling people I was adopted, as even a girl from a family who made macaroni cheese with no cheese as they couldn't afford the cheese, looked all sad and said she was sorry my mother didn't keep me.

JTBB33 · 29/08/2026 20:05

Scoffingbiscuits · 29/08/2026 19:16

To be fair, that's a really high household income.

I don’t doubt it. Like I say, I feel incredibly grateful, but it’s a far cry from the £5m OP mentioned. Perhaps it’s just appreciation having come from a much lower income up bringing!

JTBB33 · 29/08/2026 20:09

Scoffingbiscuits · 29/08/2026 19:16

To be fair, that's a really high household income.

I’ll also add, we live a frugal life because of where we have come from, so £180 on LEGO still seems completely alien to me and such a special treat! Hence feeling like I’ve won the lottery!

Tablesandchairs23 · 29/08/2026 20:10

Are your diamond shoes to tight!

Dumbledora8 · 29/08/2026 20:20

I get what you are saying OP- money can't buy everything and having a lot of it will be your normal.

out of interest- why would an American have a breakdown in an nhs hospital?

Zanatdy · 29/08/2026 20:21

I do think having a lot of money can bring a lot of problems too. Obviously it’s an incredibly privileged position to be in, but not without the negatives too. I think being comfortable is good.

I had my first child at 16, spent a year on benefits, them went to college / Uni and now i’m earning 70k plus a year. Not mega bucks, but 16yr old me could only have dreamed of having an income like this. I am single income household so it doesn’t make me rich, but I can buy a new top / splash out on a nice airfyer without having to worry, don’t have to wait for pay day for things etc. Only one adult child at home now too. So yeah, I am happy with what I have and if I won the lottery tomorrow I would be scared it could change some friendships etc and make me feel awkward.

Kelticgold · 29/08/2026 20:23

You need therapy. Use some of that money to pay for a good shrink.

dual90 · 29/08/2026 20:28

ForMauveLemur · 29/08/2026 18:49

Also if you make £1 million from active investments, your capital must be substantially more. Live off that.

Partner oncologists earn high incomes because their private practices generate massive ancillary revenues—particularly through "buy-and-bill" chemotherapy and in-house infusion services.Key Drivers of High CompensationInfusion and Drug Margins: Private clinics buy high-cost cancer drugs and bill insurers (including Medicare) at a higher rate. The profit margins from managing busy on-site infusion suites often match or exceed the income made from direct doctor consultations.High Clinical Demand: An aging U.S. population and a persistent national shortage of specialists mean patient volumes are exceptionally high, fueling rapid productivity metrics (wRVUs).Long Training Pipeline: Becoming an oncologist requires a 3-year internal medicine residency followed by a 3-year subspecialty fellowship, restricting the overall supply of qualified doctors.Partnership Dividends: Unlike salaried hospital employees, practice owners split the collective profits of the business, capturing revenue from lab work, imaging, and efficient patient throughput.Would you like to explore:How the buy-and-bill model works legally and financially in U.S. healthcare?How U.S. oncology pay compares to national health systems like the UK's NHS?AI responses may include mistakes. Learn moreis it moral to earn that muchThe question of whether it is moral for partner oncologists to earn such high incomes is a subject of significant ethical debate. The discussion involves competing views on the value of medical expertise, business ethics, and the systemic cost of healthcare.Arguments Supporting the Morality of High EarningsValue of Specialized Expertise: Supporters argue that saving lives and treating complex, life-threatening illnesses justifies a high premium. The compensation reflects the immense responsibility and high-stakes nature of the work.Extensive Education and Debt: Becoming an oncologist requires over a decade of rigorous training, including four years of medical school, a three-year residency, and a three-year fellowship. Oncologists often begin practicing in their early 30s, frequently carrying hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan debt.Business Risk and Investment: Practice partners act as entrepreneurs. They take on significant financial liability, invest capital into advanced medical equipment, manage complex operations, and employ support staff, which entitles them to the profits generated by the business.Workload and Burnout: Oncologists face high rates of emotional and physical burnout due to long hours and the emotional toll of dealing with terminal illnesses, justifying higher financial rewards to attract talent.Arguments Critiquing the Morality of High EarningsProfit from Illness: Critics argue that healthcare is a fundamental human right. Under this view, generating multi-million dollar corporate profits directly from patients fighting life-threatening diseases is seen as ethically problematic.Ancillary Revenue Inefficiencies: A large portion of a partner’s high income stems from drug markups in the "buy-and-bill" system rather than direct patient care. This system has been criticized for creating misaligned incentives, potentially encouraging the prescription of higher-priced therapies over equally effective, lower-cost alternatives.Systemic Financial Strain: High specialist compensation contributes to the rising cost of U.S. healthcare, leading to high insurance premiums and out-of-pocket medical bills that can drive families to financial ruin or bankruptcy.Global Disparity: Compared to other developed nations with universal healthcare systems, where oncologists are well-compensated but rarely earn seven-figure incomes, the U.S. model is viewed by some as an outlier driven by commercialization rather than healthcare necessity

All you’ve really told us is that “cancer care” is huge business. Is thos person in the UK or USA - because there is still huge incentives in the UK oncology too.

goldenpanda · 29/08/2026 20:28

Why don’t you go down to part time hours and spend more time with your young children?

blueshoes · 29/08/2026 20:30

ForMauveLemur · 29/08/2026 19:58

It is almost certainly a fake post designed specifically to generate outrage. On forums like Mumsnet, this type of post is referred to as "trolling" or "rage-bait."
While it is impossible to definitively prove it is made up without knowing the author, the post relies heavily on fabricated timelines and classic internet tropes designed to provoke a highly emotional response.
Here is a breakdown of why this post is highly suspect:

  1. The Improbable Medical Timeline
The math for a 35-year-old making £1 million ($1.25+ million USD) as a "partner oncologist" in the US simply does not add up.
  • The Training: Becoming an oncologist in the US requires 4 years of undergraduate study, 4 years of medical school, 3 years of internal medicine residency, and 2 to 3 years of oncology fellowship.
  • The Age Factor: Even without gap years, a doctor typically finishes this training around age 31 or 32. If they transferred from the UK, the US often requires foreign-trained doctors to repeat residencies, adding even more time.
  • The Income: While oncologists are well-compensated, reaching "partner" status in a lucrative private practice and earning over a million dollars a year takes years of building a patient base and buying into the practice. Achieving this by 35 is exceptionally rare, if not impossible.
  1. Textbook "Rage-Bait" Tropes
The post hits every single trigger point guaranteed to infuriate an average forum user:
  • The Humble-Brag: Framing an astronomical £5 million household income as a burden or "overrated."
  • The Disconnect from Reality: Claiming that someone on an "average wage" can easily afford a comfortable house, a decent car, and holidays. In the current economic climate, this is glaringly out of touch and purposely written to invalidate the struggles of average earners.
  • Blaming Poverty on Character: Stating that being completely broke is fine unless you make "brain dead decisions." This implies poverty is solely a moral failure, which is a classic tactic used by trolls to spark fierce arguments.
  1. The Mumsnet Formula
This post reads like a masterpiece of internet trolling. It combines extreme wealth, immense privilege, condescension toward the working class, and a faux-innocent "Am I Being Unreasonable?" (AIBU) sign-off. It is engineered to make people angry so they will reply. The Verdict: You are right to be suspicious. It’s a carefully crafted fiction designed to get a rise out of people scrolling through the internet.

I agree. Those timelines, amounts and even the story are extremely improbable.

Farmwifefarmlife · 29/08/2026 20:31

QuothTheRavenista · 25/08/2026 13:52

Might not make you happy, but I would rather be miserable with wads of cash than miserable and broke

HTH

Haha and me!

use92438567 · 29/08/2026 20:31

Watdidusay · 29/08/2026 18:20

How did you manage to save enough to retire before specialising?

By having a made-up income from made-up investments and a made-up job?

Guys - applying a little common sense, and even putting the astonishingly unrealistic oncology training timeline aside, this is almost impossible.

In order for the OP to earn the alleged 1m passive income/year, they would need to have 13m invested, at the very least. And every penny of that 13m would need to be invested at the highest possible risk level to create those returns. And no one - no one - invests all their assets at that degree of risk. At the 10-15m level, it would be crazy to put more than 15% into very speculative investments. The more likely amount the OP would need would be around 20 invested.

As posted, they're outsmarting Warren Buffet with their rate of returns.

Yes, does money buy happiness is a legit discussion. This post, however, is a troll.

Dersie · 29/08/2026 20:33

ForLoudBrickMember · 25/08/2026 13:49

I know this will sound really out of touch and I apologies in advance if I offend anyone, but I’ve been reflecting on my life recently and I truly think it is the most overrated thing on the planet. I’m 35, total pre tax income of about £2 million with half coming from working as a partner oncologist in the states and half coming from active investing. DH makes slightly more, total household income of about £5 mil. Now I’ve done it I can say the following;

  1. It feels totally normal.
  2. It is incredibly isolating
  3. The pressure/difficulty is intense. Ours are still far too young for this and trying to avoid it but it’s very common the DC face intense pressure/stress.
  4. So so much sacrifice. I left everything behind in the UK, put off DC until late, missed out on so much etc.
  5. Being average isn’t much worse. People earning the average wage can still afford a comfortable house, decent car, food, occasional holiday etc. Mum was completely broke as a child and even that would’ve been fine if she didn’t make brain dead decisions constantly.

Yet the average person seems to believe it’s endless bliss, no stress and every rich person is a genius who never tires and never feels sad. AIBU?

You poor poor thing! Id quite hapiily be a willing recipient if youd like to unburden yourself from all of that cash

JTBB33 · 29/08/2026 20:35

use92438567 · 29/08/2026 20:31

By having a made-up income from made-up investments and a made-up job?

Guys - applying a little common sense, and even putting the astonishingly unrealistic oncology training timeline aside, this is almost impossible.

In order for the OP to earn the alleged 1m passive income/year, they would need to have 13m invested, at the very least. And every penny of that 13m would need to be invested at the highest possible risk level to create those returns. And no one - no one - invests all their assets at that degree of risk. At the 10-15m level, it would be crazy to put more than 15% into very speculative investments. The more likely amount the OP would need would be around 20 invested.

As posted, they're outsmarting Warren Buffet with their rate of returns.

Yes, does money buy happiness is a legit discussion. This post, however, is a troll.

Completely agree

hothousingforsats · 29/08/2026 20:37

I find your path to £1m, via a bit of eBay and part time UK jobs, a bit hard to swallow but I'll go with it. Also don't get how at 35 you can have DC but think you left having children late?
Are you and your husband in sync with what you want? Do want to stop accumulating and living but he still needs to climb another rung then that could make you miserable. Or is it just that you earn all this money but live somewhere you can't really enjoy it, it just sits in a bank account.
Are you just embarrassed about your wealth or annoyed it's not what your thought i.e. now you are rich you still aren't invited by Bezos or the Kardashians to their parties. I'm not being unkind but some very rich folk are still miserable as their wealth doesn't give them the access that they though it would and since you love your job I struggle to know why you would be meh about extra money, when it can just sit there or be given away.
Really you can only be happy with that amount of money if your friends and family have the same (or you have more but they think you have the same and you keep your mouth shut).

Maybe watch Schitts Creek a few times.

TheFishFish · 29/08/2026 20:38

JTBB33 · 29/08/2026 20:35

Completely agree

It's obviously bullshit. Just rage-bait that mumsnet are inexplicably not taking down.