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To leave early after my dad told off my son?

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Sparklesbigtoe · 21/08/2026 08:01

Will try & keep this brief cos I didn’t get many replies on my longer one and I’d really like to know if I’m overreacting or not. 5 yo DS & I are staying with my dad for a few days. Yesterday while we’re eating dinner he raised his voice (not quite shouted) at him & told him he has no manners and he doesn’t want to eat dinner with him again and that he needs to go straight to bed. DS wouldn’t sit still, kept getting up and burping at the table. All bad behaviour I know and I was dealing with it but my dad butts in. He goes on at him so much DS starts crying. He then suggests I’m not bringing him up properly and not teaching him any manners, says DS is rude for ignoring him earlier that day when he asked him a question (I wasn’t there but he wouldn’t have ignored him, he may have not understood or frozen out of shyness, which happens sometimes). I took DS to bed and went to bed with him and haven’t seen my dad since. I feel extremely unwelcome here now and just want to go home. Problem is we’re in rural Wales and the only way we can leave is to have my dad drive us to the train station. We’re due to stay till Sunday. What would you do? If I end up staying, what do I say to him today? He’ll never apologise to me or ds or admit he was in the wrong.

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Thestealer · 21/08/2026 18:42

JRM17 · 21/08/2026 18:35

Why can't your DS sit still at a dinner table at 5ys does he have additional needs (autism/ADHD) or is he just as your dad said a kid with no manners. Because if it's the latter I too would have made him cry very likely as I would have swiftly sent him away from my table. My DS9 has been able to sit at a table from being 6mo and transitioning to a "big chair" made no difference as he understood the expectations of sitting at a dinner table. It infuriates me when we are out eating and kids can't just sit and eat a meal without disturbing others it's not hard to teach manners.

6 months? Mine was sitting at the table from a newborn.

ByUniqueViper · 21/08/2026 18:53

Your son was misbehaving and being rude. Maybe your Dad wouldn't have had to step in in A) you had taught him correct behaviour at a table B) sorted it out so your Dad didnt need to intervene.
Get over it and teach your son some manners. You sound more bothered than your son

BlueMum16 · 21/08/2026 19:10

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 21/08/2026 18:20

Because he is 5.

What is the Dad's excuse?

He's a shit dad.

The OP has already said he wasn't great and he can't talk to her DS but she's the adult stuck in.the middle and wants relationships so she needs to help them achieve this.

The alternative is to walk away and the OP doesn't want to do this

BunnyLake · 21/08/2026 19:33

JRM17 · 21/08/2026 18:35

Why can't your DS sit still at a dinner table at 5ys does he have additional needs (autism/ADHD) or is he just as your dad said a kid with no manners. Because if it's the latter I too would have made him cry very likely as I would have swiftly sent him away from my table. My DS9 has been able to sit at a table from being 6mo and transitioning to a "big chair" made no difference as he understood the expectations of sitting at a dinner table. It infuriates me when we are out eating and kids can't just sit and eat a meal without disturbing others it's not hard to teach manners.

Your 6 month old was sitting at the table? Or do you actually mean he was in a high chair at the table, which is normal and nothing to boast about.

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · 21/08/2026 19:45

I'm surprised you've had so many people on your dad's side here tbh. I'm of the view that when a parent is there, you respect the parent. Sure, your son was definitely not behaving and that is disrespectful, not making light of that at all. However, it's not OK to cut across you and shout at your son when you're right there to the point he cries is disrespectful to you and your position as a parent.
I think if you leave, it'll cast a sour note moving forward. We had similar at our home with fil, my husband took him to one side and explained we don't shout like that at our kids and that their behaviour is our responsibility. He was huffy but got the point and hasn't intervened since. It's part of the switch from parent to grandad, and unless you're not there, he can't decide how to discipline your child. Have a calm chat, set the boundary and if he can't get on board then politely suggest you leave early. If you know he won't apologise, don't look for one, just look for him to accept the new boundary.

blueysmum88 · 21/08/2026 19:47

BuildbyNumbere · 21/08/2026 18:21

There are 3 sides to every story.

Yeah the dads, the Ops and the one you’ve invented probably.

maxslice · 21/08/2026 19:50

ElsiePiddockSkipsinherSleep · 21/08/2026 08:05

Why is your dad having to correct your son? It does sound like he has very bad manners and you should be on top of this. It doesn’t sound like you are.

It sounds like your father has no manners. That is the wrong way to correct a child. Especially, a child who is not yours. Your father can talk about it without raising his voice and being so draconian. Further, he should talk to the OP in a reasonable way about his concerns. If the son doesn’t learn some basic manners before starting school, it’s going to be harder for him to fit in. If he has playdates in other people’s homes, he needs to know how to behave. Even so, DF was out of line.

BuildbyNumbere · 21/08/2026 19:57

blueysmum88 · 21/08/2026 19:47

Yeah the dads, the Ops and the one you’ve invented probably.

No, the truth I’m afraid.

BuildbyNumbere · 21/08/2026 20:00

SandyHappyPerson · 21/08/2026 18:22

I would usually agree in principle, as it is a thing, but to be honest the information is all right there in her OP that something isn't 'right' in their relationship.

He doesn't just raise his voice to her son, he tells him he's got no manners, that he doesn't want to eat dinner with him again (carrying it on in to the future), and then tells him to go to bed (obviously skipping the film they had planned anyway), when the son starts crying he turns on OP saying she isn't raising him correctly, and that he is a rude child for ignoring him earlier in the day, all in front of her son.

It is WAY over the top by anyone's standards, and yes, abusive IMO, a few simple stern words would have sufficed if he really didn't think he was listening to OP enough for his liking, not the tirade of abuse that he metered out to both of them, he didn't want to discipline him at all, he wanted to vent his anger at both of them.

OP then went to bed with her son to get away from the situation instead of confront it, she finishes by saying she doesn't want to stay and she knows her dad will never apologise for his actions.

It's all right there in the OP that he is emotional abusive, and she may be afraid of him, if you've never had an emotional abusive parent, then whoopedy fucking doo for you, it doesn't mean OP is fabricating anything.. as soon as I read her OP I knew exactly what sort of 'man' he is.

And the fact that OP has absolutely no idea how to get to the station without a lift from the “abusive, controlling” dad, says a lot.
you have no idea what type of man he is … you only know the type of man that the OP wants you to believe he is.
Anyway, the truth hurts as OP appears to have “done a runner” from this thread when faced with the truth … sounds familiar!

blueysmum88 · 21/08/2026 20:15

BuildbyNumbere · 21/08/2026 19:57

No, the truth I’m afraid.

The arrogance of you acting like you were actually there and/or know the op personally 😂

ECGG · 21/08/2026 20:22

Taking away food, even pudding, is a really slippery slope. You're gonna end up with a child that has a really poor relationship with food!

MandSJaffaCakesRule · 21/08/2026 20:24

Hugs OP, your dad sounds like a bully. Make an excuse and leave. You don't need to have any kind of confrontation. Just get you and your son out of the situation and in future if you feel like you have to see him, just make it a day and go somewhere neutral.

Your son is 5, and your dad's behaviour towards him and you is way worse than any 5 year olds table manners.

Goldengirl123 · 21/08/2026 20:36

Teach your child manners then you wouldn’t have this problem

Cheeky19863 · 21/08/2026 20:36

So your son was rude, burping at the table and being naughty and disrespectful in your dads house? No he wasnt in the wrong. Your son should know how to behave

Doozycan · 21/08/2026 20:40

My dad is unemotional robot and your dad is unable to connect with your son. Dont bother going there again your dad has obviously no clue how ro engage with kids. Hence why you have suffered from his hurtful remarks

Cheeky19863 · 21/08/2026 20:41

Sparklesbigtoe · 21/08/2026 08:57

Only on MN would you ask for advice about something and 80% of the replies are people criticising you and not remote answering the question! It’s so pointless and pretty cruel and has made me feel 10 times worse than I already did. Just scroll on if you can’t offer any advice. I don’t need to be told that my child burping at the table is gross! I obviously already know that. I’m a normal person. It’s completely out of character for him. I was explaining that he’d lose his pudding & film and gave him one more chance and if he did it again I said he was going straight to bed. My post was more about what my dad said after to me - that I was a rubbish mum and I’m bringing him up with no manners. It was so hurtful to hear that from my own parent when I’m trying my absolute best as a single parent with little support (he’d never offer to help as he thinks people are “taking advantage” of their parents if they ever ask them to babysit their kids). It’s been really triggering for me cos of my past so I’m really teary and afraid I’ll cry in front of him if I stay. I’d really like to leave but I’d have to tell him and ask him to drive us to the station. Would that be more awkward than just staying till a sun??

Dont post on MN if you dont want peoples opinions 🙄

Bringyourfoldingchair · 21/08/2026 20:42

Your son sound very badly behaved and you sound like you enable it. “He wouldn’t have ignored him”. I find it hard to believe that a child running feral round the dinner table froze in shyness at being asked a question.

Cheeky19863 · 21/08/2026 20:42

ECGG · 21/08/2026 20:22

Taking away food, even pudding, is a really slippery slope. You're gonna end up with a child that has a really poor relationship with food!

I agree. You dont punish children by removing food from them!

Zaza2020 · 21/08/2026 20:59

Outragous a five year old burping at the table?? My son gets a kick out of these things and giggles as he and his friends at school finding burping and farting hillarious. Yes correct the child as i do, but at five they are just little. Also not speaking to an adult is normal - sometimes my son will say you tell mummy. Your dad needs to lighten up children are so lovely and fun his loss if he continues to be a grump. I'd have to have said something.

kombuchabucha · 21/08/2026 21:03

I hope today was okay for you OP.

I feel for you, it's awful being judged by your shitty parent who's own parenting was so awful you're still triggered by them!

I have a defiant 5yo, so I relate to your struggle! At 5 their prefrontal cortex—the brain area responsible for self-regulation is still very immature. They are still learning impulse-control. Yes of course they still need to be told when they're in the wrong and disciplined accordingly so they learn what right and wrong (which it sounds like you were doing before your Dad railroaded you), but it's unreasonable to except them to be able to control themselves 24/7 at age 5.

NY152 · 21/08/2026 21:10

This is wild, do other peoples 5 year olds honestly not mess around at the table? Definitely something mine would do, especially when they know there’s pressure to behave.

Unless it’s as a caregiver I don’t think you need to tell off other peoples kids.

GrannyMW50 · 21/08/2026 21:28

Some people on here are awful.
Your job is to look after & protect your little one. Stuff your dad. Take the little one home...& Make sure he knows it's not his fault.

As for burping... I'm a bad granny that laughs & joins in. Get a grip, people 😏

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Thestealer · 21/08/2026 21:39

Cheeky19863 · 21/08/2026 20:41

Dont post on MN if you dont want peoples opinions 🙄

Don't be a dick to people on the internet just because you think it makes you look all edgy and hard.

Kokonimater · 22/08/2026 01:01

Mapletree1985 · 21/08/2026 11:13

You should reflect on whether you are properly training your son or making excuses for him.

In any case, no human being should be brought up believing no one is allowed to criticise them but their mum.

The grandfather didn’t criticise him He shouted at him and frightened him.
I would never allow another person to shout at my children.