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AIBU to suggest poor public behaviour should affect access to services?

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Liggety · 19/08/2026 11:01

Following many recent threads about what is and is not permissible in a decent society, can we agree on a list of actions that should exclude you from accessing state services?

To start with:

Using a phone on loudspeaker anywhere outwith your own home.
Wearing PJs outwith your own home.
Playing music - inside or outside - so loudly it can be heard by neighbours.
Cycling on the pavements (cycling is my main mode of transport btw).
Wearing balaclavas outwith the high mountains.
Riding an illegal e-scooter or e-bike.
Having an off-lead dog in public that is not under your full control.
Dropping litter.
Wearing scrunch bum leggings and other revolting clothing in public.
Swearing in public.
Driving without using your indicators.
Men without a top on in public.
Working cash in hand, or paying cash in hand for work done while knowing or suspecting tax may not be accounted for by the service provider.

Some of the above are more tongue in cheek than others by all indicate no grace, style or manners and we need to remove them from our culture.

What are you adding to the list?

OP posts:
olivepicanto · 19/08/2026 14:38

Liggety · 19/08/2026 11:54

Yes apologies. You can have style, grace, dignity and manners no matter what your class is.

Or your tax bracket!

PurplebudsWhitebuds · 19/08/2026 14:35

@Boreded
When i read the OP I agreed with the serious points - the actual.illegal things - and I took the other things not to be serious.
Now I'm actually rather annoyed at a couple of the posts where OP has quoted me and had a go at what I've said for absolutely no reason. So I have rather lost sympathy with her and tbh I wish id never posted on the thread at all.
I hadnt. anticipated the threadt aking the turn it has.

Hadalifeonce · 19/08/2026 14:18

Hahabonk · 19/08/2026 11:11

Saying ‘outwith’

I love outwith. But DH hates it!

itsgettingweird · 19/08/2026 14:15

Traitorsclaudia · 19/08/2026 11:19

So If I swear in public I can't go to the GP?

Fucks sake.

😂😂😂😂😂

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Liggety · 19/08/2026 14:15

BindweedIsMyNemesis · 19/08/2026 14:03

Oh - and letting off balloons or Chinese lanterns for any reason.

This too. Why on earth do people think it’s an acceptable thing to do? I’ll remember dead uncle Jim by choking a few cows to death and causing a wildfire. It’s what he would have wanted!

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LlynTegid · 19/08/2026 14:14

Some of these should be unlawful and carry a sanction. Properly define what is indecent exposure (where no one can be topless male or female), lack of indicator use meaning points on a driving licence, for example.

If you are going to deny service, also consider things that will really hurt for repeat offenders. Loud use of your phone, lose the phone number, for example.

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Liggety · 19/08/2026 14:13

MsRubee · 19/08/2026 14:06

Being angry enough to make angry lists and describing people as “lower class”.

I wrote the list. I never associated any of the list with class. That was other people. Are certain aspects of the list allowed if they are carried out by people of a certain class? If so which and why? Are people of that class supposed to lower their expectations of the society they live in? If so, why?

OP posts:
Boreded · 19/08/2026 14:11

PurplebudsWhitebuds · 19/08/2026 13:25

I'm quite aware some of the things on the list are not illegal! - Op said some of the ones included in the list were tongue in cheek.

I responded to you because you were implying by your post that anyone who objects to behaviours on the list regards themselve as superior . I don't think expecting people not to drop litter, not park on pavements etc etc is anything to do with feeling superior. Or class.

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I didn’t imply that at all. I just don’t like the fact that op made a list of illegal and antisocial behaviour then decided to throw in some things that people regularly complain about from ‘lower classes’ for zero reason at all.

It was a shitty thing to do. And many people, like me, don’t give a shit whether you don’t like me jumping in the car to go to a relatives whilst still wearing my PJs…doesn’t harm you, no! But I too, like a previous poster, pay high rate tax…so maybe next time OP makes a thread to try to be a dick to people she believes to be less valuable to society than her she instead just…doesn’t

ThatWasAFunDay · 19/08/2026 14:11

OP,
I think you need to add being pompous and not having a sence of humour to your list

Boreded · 19/08/2026 14:07

PurplebudsWhitebuds · 19/08/2026 11:51

I don't know why you are having a go at me OP. I agree with you.
I was questioning the poster who seemed to think behaving in anti social selfish way was a sign of being Lower class.
My point was class has nothing to do with it.

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No you missed my point. The OP decided to put things on the list that would normally be associated with people of lower classes and mix it in with illegal behaviour as though they are on par. She displayed a massive amount of snobbery, I’m not the only one who spotted it as other posters have commented that they, like me, also wear their PJs when they feel like it and still pay higher tax.

She went from picking on illegal and antisocial behaviour which is absolutely fair, to picking out people who wear leggings or pj - rude!

MsRubee · 19/08/2026 14:06

Being angry enough to make angry lists and describing people as “lower class”.

BindweedIsMyNemesis · 19/08/2026 14:03

Oh - and letting off balloons or Chinese lanterns for any reason.

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 19/08/2026 14:01

People who hate jammies in public would never say anything to the women who go out in them, because people who go out in their jammies know how to fight 😭.

Live and let live. I don’t care if someone’s in their hello kitty jammies at the off license to grab a pink lemonade Lost Mary - as long as you don’t stink I could not give less of a fuck. Dropping the kids off at school even, yes it’s not exactly classy but as long as you’ve got them there on time and they’re fed and watered it doesn’t matter. The pyjama mum at my kids school is actually probably the kindest one of the lot.

Some of these things are scummy, like littering but there’s already a punishment for that it’s just not really enacted.

PurplebudsWhitebuds · 19/08/2026 13:45

Liggety · 19/08/2026 13:36

Are people that expect others to dress before they leave the house, control their dogs and not drop littler ‘superior’ these days. I don’t see these things as ‘superior’ expectations but basic expectations of fellow members of society.

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Again I agree with you OP. I'm perplexed as to why you keep having a go at me when I agree with you? Please explain.

takealettermsjones · 19/08/2026 13:44

SchnitzelAgain · 19/08/2026 13:42

Because it’s lazy and slovenly to wear pyjamas outside of your house unless it’s an emergency. I’ve lived in a few countries but only in the U.K. is it argued as acceptable and if you complain you’re being a snob. Fine, call me a snob.

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It may be lazy, but disgusting? Really?! I have a very vivid mental image of Victorian ladies with fans and smelling salts 😂

rainbowbee9 · 19/08/2026 13:44

JustAnotherWhinger · 19/08/2026 13:39

Can always rely on ‘outwith’ to pull a few non-Scots into being unnecessarily rude.

I use outwith and didn't realise it was Scottish. I am definitely not Scottish!

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Liggety · 19/08/2026 13:44

StickyProblem · 19/08/2026 13:42

Yes!!
Yet another “Let’s mock the povvos” thread

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What is ‘povvo’ about any of the above points? Which - of any of the points above - are ‘povvo’ culture that ought to be tolerated.

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SchnitzelAgain · 19/08/2026 13:42

takealettermsjones · 19/08/2026 13:33

Why is it disgusting to see pyjamas? 😂

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Because it’s lazy and slovenly to wear pyjamas outside of your house unless it’s an emergency. I’ve lived in a few countries but only in the U.K. is it argued as acceptable and if you complain you’re being a snob. Fine, call me a snob.

StickyProblem · 19/08/2026 13:42

Boreded · 19/08/2026 11:17

Can we add…Making lists to determine who is too lower class to mix with you in public.

And by the way, I do not put my jeans on to go visit my mum, I am staying in my PJs because I’m comfy thanks.

Yes!!
Yet another “Let’s mock the povvos” thread

JustAnotherWhinger · 19/08/2026 13:41

I’d add fireworks on random days with no warning.

If wee Mary/Bobby is going to have a fucking massive firework party for their birthday in mid August/February it would be polite to give the neighbours a heads up.

JustAnotherWhinger · 19/08/2026 13:39

Can always rely on ‘outwith’ to pull a few non-Scots into being unnecessarily rude.

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Liggety · 19/08/2026 13:36

Firefly100 · 19/08/2026 13:35

People who sit in the middle lane on the motorway when the first lane is empty

100%!!! Who are they overtaking? WHO???

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Liggety · 19/08/2026 13:36

PurplebudsWhitebuds · 19/08/2026 13:25

I'm quite aware some of the things on the list are not illegal! - Op said some of the ones included in the list were tongue in cheek.

I responded to you because you were implying by your post that anyone who objects to behaviours on the list regards themselve as superior . I don't think expecting people not to drop litter, not park on pavements etc etc is anything to do with feeling superior. Or class.

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Are people that expect others to dress before they leave the house, control their dogs and not drop littler ‘superior’ these days. I don’t see these things as ‘superior’ expectations but basic expectations of fellow members of society.

OP posts:
Firefly100 · 19/08/2026 13:35

People who sit in the middle lane on the motorway when the first lane is empty

takealettermsjones · 19/08/2026 13:33

Liggety · 19/08/2026 11:50

Yes you could say I’m intolerant, but why should we tolerate the viewing of someone’s PJs. It’s disgusting. Just buy comfortable clothes and dress yourselves in them. Why should we tolerate someone’s music from the garden next door? It’s so ill mannered. Why should we tolerate walking into the road with a buggy because someone was too lazy to find a proper parking space and so used the pavement? It’s making my child’s like more dangerous.

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Why is it disgusting to see pyjamas? 😂