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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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HoldingOntoMySanity · 19/08/2026 09:21

Yes times are sadly different. My local facebook page is filled with teens asking for any sort of job because they have applied for everything they can think of and the application numbers are huge.

Don't get me started on alot of places that ask for people to do an unpaid 'trial shift' and then just cycle through teens that way.

My teen is doing volunteer work litter picking and at the foodbank just to get something on his CV.

EvieBB · 19/08/2026 09:18

GellerYeller · 19/08/2026 01:01

PP seems to be referring to some time ago when it was possible to temp, especially for holiday cover. There were lots of entry level jobs for young people like filing, office junior, data entry, envelope stuffing(really!) etc., most of which don’t exist now. Lots of civil service and local council offices had post rooms, typing pools and reprographics staff(photocopying), which the unions didn’t want the more senior staff doing.

Ah, ok, thank you.
Such a shame these jobs don't exist anymore.
I'm so shocked and sad for youth of today - I was able to get a weekend job as a teen within a day :( :(

ThatHangryRubyReader · 19/08/2026 09:16

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

Good on you for acknowledging that. Given that push her out of the nest now before she ruins her life

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 09:15

hds873banana · 19/08/2026 09:11

I can’t get over the amount of people flying the flag for nepotism. Wild. But this is MN where most are six figure+ salaries and totally out of touch with normal people.

Working for the family business is very common in certain trade professions such as law/ dentistry/builders/plumbers….Do people complain when a child takes over their parent’s butchers?

the idea that no one can ever just happily take over from their parents is wild honestly. It was perfectly normal in year’s gone by. I don’t consider a child going to gain experience in a parent’s business if that is the field they want to get into nepotism. Just a normal, practical part of life.

dottiedodah · 19/08/2026 09:15

I think YABU Im afraid .She is working hard ,aced her exams and working for you as well.What is the point in her taking a job in Tesco,
when another youngster may be desperate for work?She has a car from DGP as do many youngsters now.I dont think she is spoilt as such .just privileged ,but as a Solicitor so are you!If someone said you had to work in Tesco what would be the point ?She is in the same boat!

hds873banana · 19/08/2026 09:11

I can’t get over the amount of people flying the flag for nepotism. Wild. But this is MN where most are six figure+ salaries and totally out of touch with normal people.

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 09:06

Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about this sort of thing, OP. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

Sam9769 · 19/08/2026 09:03

Your post sounds like a piss take!

You're a solicitor running your own firm with not quite 20 solicitors working for you.
Your husband is a art dealer working in London.
Daughter got 4 A stars in her A levels and has been working for you gaining valuable legal experience.
She wants to study law and go to Oxbridge and is taking a gap year to enable her to apply and hopes to continue working in your firm which would be ideal as she wants to study law.
Son working for JP Morgan and has worked in Art Galleries in the past.
In laws all well healed by the sounds of it and gave her an old car to enable her to get around.
Life seems to be going exceedingly well for you all and what is exercising you?
The fact that your daughter appears "spoilt" and doesn't want to work in a shop, cafe or the like during her gap year!
I read an article yesterday about a young couple on honeymoon in Greece who were killed in a helicopter accident! Their young lives ended before they even began.
From reading your post, if it's not some sort of joke or brag, you're the one who appears to be the spoilt brat in your family!

SevenYellowHammers · 19/08/2026 09:03

I’m poor, retired teacher, and I’ve spoiled my kid rotten to get him to an RG uni, year abroad , great summer paid internship (I wrote the CV/letter and made initial phone call).

I’ve used nearly all my lump sum
on a house rent for him.

He can be lovely but equally as rude and entitled as fuck. But I stand by decision to do what I did because it’s what parents do.

He wasn’t IVF but a later life surprise and miracle so I will admit to being a doting mother!

OP it’s not like me to defend wealthy people because I’m a professional working class hero 😫 but I think you’ve done a great job and your kids will be ok.

I bet your daughter is in awe of your job and that’s why she works at your law firm.

Maybe she could do some work on a case for free or something if there’s one that might teach her something about the fact that not everyone is as privileged as her.

But as you’ve said, you didn’t always have it easy, both your kids will have bumps in the road and learn some humility so there’s nothing wrong with them being a bit lucky now.

Araminta1004 · 19/08/2026 09:01

I wouldn’t want any of mine to take a gap year without that gap year exposing them to novel and challenging experiences. I also wouldn’t want them to let a Durham offer go just for the sake of a chance of getting into Cambridge, there is no guarantee. If she was going to work at the OP‘s firm in the holidays anyway - she already gained that exposure.
I don’t think it’s a question of anyone having to struggle for a growth mind set - more that the OP is hoping for more get up and go/challenge yourself outside your comfort zone.
Having said all of that - you can’t blame an intelligent child picking the path of least resistance that leads directly to success anyway. You have to explain calmly why broader experiences may be enriching in a very long term manner.

Butchyrestingface · 19/08/2026 08:58

MyPurpleHeart · 19/08/2026 08:51

I don't think its the actual job OP was referring to but more that she wants her daughter to go out and work for someone else.

There is a big difference between working an office job for a company and working an office job for your parents.

Let her take the year doing admin work at another unrelated law firm. Where she wont get special treatment by default and she will learn a thing or two about making it on your own steam

What unrelated law firm is going to give an 18 yo girl straight out of school a job for a year?

throwawayimplantchat · 19/08/2026 08:56

This is one of the most potentially identifying threads I’ve ever seen on MN.

If anyone knows any of you they’ll be able to tell you wrote this.

And MN often share popular threads on socials / press often pick them up. Theres nothing you can do to stop that once you post a thread.

Seems very naive for someone who works in the legal field!

You’ve even said who your son works for… I’d be furious if I was either of them tbh!

MyPurpleHeart · 19/08/2026 08:51

I don't think its the actual job OP was referring to but more that she wants her daughter to go out and work for someone else.

There is a big difference between working an office job for a company and working an office job for your parents.

Let her take the year doing admin work at another unrelated law firm. Where she wont get special treatment by default and she will learn a thing or two about making it on your own steam

FlyingApple · 19/08/2026 08:49

As me and DH grew up with no parental support, we really had to make something of ourselves but what would've been the point if we didn't make life easier for our own kids? I have given mine everything that I could and I would do it again. Mine aren't brats, they've worked for us before and they're confident and feel supported. I don't understand you.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 08:45

Divebar2021 · 19/08/2026 08:43

You are possibly not the judge of “ harm” though are you?

What harm could it have caused?

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 08:44

turnthefanonpls · 19/08/2026 08:35

shes grown up with privilege so she should take advantage of it. Why make her struggle and experience customer service if there’s no need for her too? She will likely never do that type of job. She may be a bit spoilt but looking at your life, her father’s life and your parents, she likely won’t ever experience struggle and that’s ok! I say that as someone who grew up on poverty and could only dream of having parents like you. Don’t wish struggle on her. She does work and is open to working, plenty of people go on to work in their family business. I don’t think you’ve spoiled her, you’ve just taught her to be resourceful and utilise what she has around her. I’ve also never done a customer service or waitress job, I went straight into admin at 16.

I went to school with a lot of privileged children. I was not one of them, sadly. It was a selective school, but I was one of the only ones from a working class background.

Even though we went to the same school and on paper, had the same opportunity, we really didn’t. Their parents were mostly like you, OP, and could offer immediate connections and experiences. They have all done amazingly in life, I didn’t. I had to leave school work in a chippy at 16 to help pay the bills so we didn’t go under.

Why would you want your daughter to do some shitty, soul destroying job she doesn’t have to, just so she can experience being from a non privileged background for a bit?

It makes no sense. And sorry for the projecting - but your daughter is incredibly lucky.

Working in some shit shop for rubbish pay and working conditions isn’t some experience she’s missing out on. Be happy that you can give her a leg up in life.

Sam9769 · 19/08/2026 08:43

cloudtreecarpet · Yesterday 21:59
I'm sorry but this is the worst "first world problem" thread I have read in a long while! In fact I could barely finish your initial post.

This! Wake up!

Divebar2021 · 19/08/2026 08:43

AlleycatMarie · 19/08/2026 08:41

I didn’t work a day in my life until I graduated, got a brand new car for my 17th etc. Didn’t do me any harm or diminish my work ethic when I did begin work. You say DD has never worked hard for anything, yet achieved amazing A Levels. However clever she is, that took hard work too. I honestly think you need to reframe how you think about her. Also your son, who has done amazing to get the JP Morgan experience!

You are possibly not the judge of “ harm” though are you?

BadSkiingMum · 19/08/2026 08:42

The world of work is changing, jobs are disappearing and I think many, many parents would envy your ability to provide skilled and fulfilling employment for your children.

I also think you are over-romanticising the value of ordinary jobs. I was out working Saturday and part-time jobs from the age of thirteen 😱 (it was the nineties!) and looking back I am not sure if it was all really necessary. My parents had told me that I needed to save up to pay for university. But the downsides were that I was working long tiring days and exposed to adult environments far too early, including sexual harassment. Thankfully not while I was underage, but even at 17 it was daunting to navigate the creepy chef who would make me push past him in a small kitchen space or stand there staring at me in his dressing gown (he lived on site) while I was trying to work.

But I am not even sure that any of this was particularly valued by employers. I got my first job on the strength of a vacation scheme, which I had probably got on the strength of university extracurriculars.

Just tell her that she either needs to do some volunteering alongside working in your office or work for another law firm. Hard work will come to her in time, particularly when she is a young trainee at a large firm.

Her father’s remark about working ‘for free’ was not helpful, but I would ask him to reframe that as ‘never working for free for a profit-making enterprise’. When you work as a volunteer you are unpaid, but benefit in other ways.

How about Citizens Advice volunteering? It is relevant to the law and she would certainly encounter some real life there!

AlleycatMarie · 19/08/2026 08:41

I didn’t work a day in my life until I graduated, got a brand new car for my 17th etc. Didn’t do me any harm or diminish my work ethic when I did begin work. You say DD has never worked hard for anything, yet achieved amazing A Levels. However clever she is, that took hard work too. I honestly think you need to reframe how you think about her. Also your son, who has done amazing to get the JP Morgan experience!

Butchyrestingface · 19/08/2026 08:41

ThePM · 19/08/2026 07:21

You think she has done very little wrong? I beg to differ.

She obviously isn’t academically lazy we will give her that. However she has become an entitled, graceless and ultimately cowardly person. She is afraid to face life on anything except the easiest settings. She will never actually be able to say I did that fully by myself, because she will always want the financial and emotional safety net.

It’s one thing to work in Mum’s business, many of my nieces and nephews have done that, but at least they were public facing, had scheduled shifts and reported to the floor manager and not Mummy. This young woman is coasting, but it is the cowardice making her run away from proper work which would really tick me off.

You use very extreme language to characterise an 18 yo girl on a gap year who IS prepared to work. She wants to work in a field that she intends to qualify in, which seems a focussed and sensible approach, imo.

I would think that as a parent one would WANT her to get relevant experience in that field, and even better that she is able to do so before going to university. What if turns out she hates law and the experience puts her off entirely? Surely better to know that before you go off and do a 4 year degree in the subject?

As to your claim on another post that her parents are right to be disappointed in her: her father isn't disappointed. OP stated he told her she's over thinking things. OP also revealed that her husband refuses to volunteer because he's unwilling to 'work for free' (nice!). That is 50% of the example which has been modelled to this girl and her brother.

If anything, OP should be disappointed in her grown-ass husband but for some reason she focuses it on a teenage girl.

IHaveQuestionsLotsOfQuestions · 19/08/2026 08:37

There’s nothing wrong with wanting nice things and having high standards for yourself. I can’t see what your DD has done wrong. She knows what she wants and knows how to get it. It doesn’t sound like she’s hurting anyone.

turnthefanonpls · 19/08/2026 08:35

shes grown up with privilege so she should take advantage of it. Why make her struggle and experience customer service if there’s no need for her too? She will likely never do that type of job. She may be a bit spoilt but looking at your life, her father’s life and your parents, she likely won’t ever experience struggle and that’s ok! I say that as someone who grew up on poverty and could only dream of having parents like you. Don’t wish struggle on her. She does work and is open to working, plenty of people go on to work in their family business. I don’t think you’ve spoiled her, you’ve just taught her to be resourceful and utilise what she has around her. I’ve also never done a customer service or waitress job, I went straight into admin at 16.

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 08:35

I wish I could give my children privileges like that.

Working at b&m for 6 months made my son depressed. I don’t know why you’d want your daughter to do that when you can give her so much more experience.

HoldingOntoMySanity · 19/08/2026 08:34

I am just a bit surprised that a parent can express such disappointment in three very accomplished hard working committed children.

maybe check YOUR privilege before despising them for theirs.

And I agree- the description is incredibly outing.