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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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GottaBeStrong · 19/08/2026 10:14

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

Tell her you'll pay her by the hour at the same rate you'd pay her working for you but instead it's for every hour she does volunteering at a voluntary job.

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 10:12

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:37

She must have gone to a good school to get grades like that. Did they not do D of E or similar to help build resilience?

Good gades are not only down to the school. They are the result of hard work by the child.

BunnyLake · 19/08/2026 10:05

TrunkElliot · 18/08/2026 21:41

I think you have given a lot of personal information about your kids.
Maybe ask MN to delete it and repost it leaving out their uni choices and where they are doing internships

And there are other threads who won’t say a hobby as it’s too ‘outing’. No such qualms here 😂

OtterMummy2024 · 19/08/2026 10:02

Firstly well done your daughter @ForJadeEagle
Secondly Oxbridge well see a year spent as a paralegal as much more useful for a future law degree than being a barista - though going and doing something like volunteering alongside that, eg with a legal aid group or somewhere like Shelter or Women's Aid, would be useful too.
Finally I wouldn't have wanted the jobs you describe at 18 if I had had a choice! I worked for my mum's business (I wrote the one-liners describing cheese at a supermarket cheese counter, weird stuff like that) and taught sports before and during university. Better pay, nicer work. I worked as a receptionist for a little bit. There are lots of ways to get your edges rubbed off that don't include stacking shelves (which is hard and I think I would be rubbish at, frankly! Same with till work or a coffee shop).

Dryshampoofordays · 19/08/2026 10:02

It does seem like you may be projecting the jealousy you feel at your own struggles in comparison to her having an easier life than you. One to discuss in therapy?

WyrdHag · 19/08/2026 10:01

I can see where you're coming from, but she's obviously looking at her older brother's behaviour/attitudes and you have set a precedent from the job PoV.

Not saying this is a terrible thing - I think a lot of parents in the same position would do it and if your DD has a genuine interest in law then it's probably helpful.

Could you have her two days each per week with you and DH so she gets a bit of a range of experiences? But she gets treated exactly like any other young employee - no perks, and has to do one day/session of volunteering a week?

Help her look for volunteering opportunities - there are lots out there for young people and it doesn't have to mean working with older women in a fusty charity shop if that's her issue.

My DD is 22 and started volunteering at 14 - she's done fundraising, social media, event planning, grant application reviews, worked with a charity for sex workers (once 20 and at uni) and another on the phone helpline for those who have experienced rape and sexual abuse, and spent a month in Cape Town working on projects with human rights and education for women and girls.

She's also on the law pathway and has taken part in various voluntary clinics and projects, some of which have been pretty high profile.
She is off to do her masters next month and has already signed up for the employment rights clinic.

So I'd point out to your DD that she will need to get used to doing some work for free (have a chat with her about circumstances around pro bono cases if you haven't already) even if it's just to make the most of her law degree when she gets there.

BunnyLake · 19/08/2026 10:00

mynameiscalypso · 18/08/2026 21:37

I’m in my mid-40s and I’ve never had a supermarket/customer service job. I did work experience and had summer jobs in office roles and have worked in a professional environment since I graduated from university. If she’s wanting to be a lawyer, why wouldn’t she be better off getting a year of legal experience?

I didn’t work in a supermarket job till I was 60! All my jobs before that were office based.

ProudCat · 19/08/2026 10:00

To be fair, she does sound a bit bratty and there's the risk of 'easy come, easy go'.

However, as someone who has worked on the tills in Iceland as the result of a sudden financial emergency (husband was made redundant and I've been poor so it was a bit of a knee jerk 'keep at least some money coming in' reaction) ... I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. My own youngest is fairly cosseted and I preferred her going on her travels and learning how to cope in 'the real world' rather having to deal with the sheer grind of the shopfloor.

I think you're being unnecessarily hard on yourself and wonder if maybe the soul searching and sense of having done something wrong might be tied up with peri?

Mangelwurzelfortea · 19/08/2026 09:59

Also the fact that half the internships at JPM are from the SAME SCHOOL really speaks volumes about the 'Old Boy' network that very much does exist in our unequal non-meritocracy of a society.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 19/08/2026 09:56

The work isn't the issue, although I can see why you think it is. The issue is that she's a spoiled brat. Not sure you can fix that at 18, though. She's going to have a gilded life compared to most kids her age and the entitlement is probably baked in now.

thesealion · 19/08/2026 09:46

I seem to be a lone voice here but I agree with you OP. Difference is I’d never have handed out jobs and privilege on a plate like you and your DH has done even if I was a multi millionaire. Your DH sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant snob if his attitudes to volunteering are anything to go by.

PerpetuallyWhelmed · 19/08/2026 09:40

I honestly don't know what benefit you think she'd get from a "normal" job as opposed to the job she has done for you. The work she does for you is entirely relevant and specific to her intended career and will set her in good stead when it comes to the very competitive business of securing a training contract.

It almost sounds like you want her to have a harder time just for the sake of it being hard, and I'm not sure why?

I think if she's doing a good job for you you would be mad to push her into a less relevant, less useful and less interesting job just because you think there is some moral benefit to making her life harder than it needs to be.

It's a different question if she's lazy or disrespectful in the work she does, but if she's doing a good job you should let her continue.

It does sound like she has an attitude problem but realistically that's your job to address; you can't outsource it to a supermarket in the hope that she'll learn to be nice by working a pointless job she doesn't like.

BillieWiper · 19/08/2026 09:35

Working as a junior in any business/employer is acceptable work for a teen. Lots of people get work through nepotism. It's just their family are art dealers and lawyers, not bricklayers and shop owners.

I applied for tons of hospitality and retail jobs as a teen but didn't get any. So I did call centre work and my family member got me a job in their industry. I don't really see what's wrong with that.

But I do know what you mean about your daughter. If you don't really need her at work then she should find another solicitors office who does. But if her dad will just let her work for him then at least she's doing something! Plenty of teens in rich families don't work at all!

PretendToBeToastWithMe · 19/08/2026 09:32

YABU, I never worked in a supermarket, it’s not a rite of passage. It seems like she knows how to work hard given she’s achieved well academically and is acting as “practically a paralegal” in your office. I think you are unnecessarily worried. It sounds like she’s driven and will find her way.

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 09:29

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 09:15

Working for the family business is very common in certain trade professions such as law/ dentistry/builders/plumbers….Do people complain when a child takes over their parent’s butchers?

the idea that no one can ever just happily take over from their parents is wild honestly. It was perfectly normal in year’s gone by. I don’t consider a child going to gain experience in a parent’s business if that is the field they want to get into nepotism. Just a normal, practical part of life.

Edited

No, because it’s a class thing.

Actors/doctors/lawyers giving thier children contacts and a leg up, how terribly privileged!

A plumber taking on their son the day they leave school or letting them work in the family corner shop - awww, bless the working class heros, backbone of the land.

It’s fucking ridiculous.

Agapornis · 19/08/2026 09:28

There’s been things he has said previously that are just wrong
the school has to contact us based on the things she has previously said.

You don't have to go into detail but along what themes were they? Did you then sit down with them, come up with some way to teach them otherwise?

BunnyLake · 19/08/2026 09:27

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 09:06

Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about this sort of thing, OP. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

Totally. 😂 Seems OP wants her privileged dd to have a taste of what it’s like with the common folk before she embarks on a high flying career.

Superhansrantowindsor · 19/08/2026 09:26

Blimey. I would do anything I possibly could to help my kids avoid the crap jobs I did in my youth. You say she hasn’t worked hard but at the same time admit she worked very hard for her excellent a level grades.
I think this is some sort of weird stealth boast tbh.

HebeMumsnet · 19/08/2026 09:25

Morning, everyone. We've had a few reports about this thread coming in so just thought we'd let you know that we've had a look behind the scenes and, while we've no reason to think this thread is not genuine, it does look as though the OP has left the building now so won't be back to answer any further questions.

We'll leave the thread to run for the time being as there are interesting discussions happening more generally about some of the topics raised.

maudelovesharold · 19/08/2026 09:25

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:35

Maybe it’s all just entirely me.

Regardless It would be great for my children to see volunteering as a good thing etc instead of thinking and saying what do I get out of that.

Honestly, op, very few teenagers/young adults are going to be that altruistic! Volunteering is mostly something they do for the ubiquitous Duke of Edinburgh’s Award, which most of them sign up for to go hiking/camping with their mates, and put something on their CVs (ha!).

She’ll come to her own understanding of life’s harsher realities in due course, I’m sure. Most of us do. It’s a fact that teenagers are notoriously selfish, anyway, due to their developing brains, and that this usually changes with maturity (although not always, I’ll grant you!)

rubyrued · 19/08/2026 09:24

SevenYellowHammers · 19/08/2026 09:03

I’m poor, retired teacher, and I’ve spoiled my kid rotten to get him to an RG uni, year abroad , great summer paid internship (I wrote the CV/letter and made initial phone call).

I’ve used nearly all my lump sum
on a house rent for him.

He can be lovely but equally as rude and entitled as fuck. But I stand by decision to do what I did because it’s what parents do.

He wasn’t IVF but a later life surprise and miracle so I will admit to being a doting mother!

OP it’s not like me to defend wealthy people because I’m a professional working class hero 😫 but I think you’ve done a great job and your kids will be ok.

I bet your daughter is in awe of your job and that’s why she works at your law firm.

Maybe she could do some work on a case for free or something if there’s one that might teach her something about the fact that not everyone is as privileged as her.

But as you’ve said, you didn’t always have it easy, both your kids will have bumps in the road and learn some humility so there’s nothing wrong with them being a bit lucky now.

Tbh I don’t think it’s the norm for parents to go this far and imo humility is a trait to learn before adulthood.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 09:24

I don’t think you’re being weird about this OP. The issue is that your daughter has not had to work for anything. She has not interviewed for her job, she was given it due to nepotism. That doesn’t mean she’s not great at it or that she’s lazy, but it does mean that she’s not developing the tenacity and resilience needed to live independently. That is what you’re trying to instil in her, and this is being made more difficult by the fact that she is consistently being given everything she wants.

I would say she doesn’t need to work in a supermarket but she does need to find a job off her own back. She needs to go through an application and interview process. These are key skills she needs to develop. Otherwise, what is likely to happen is that once she graduates she will come right back and expect you to hire her as a solicitor.

Caiti19 · 19/08/2026 09:23

I would think a child who achieved 4 A*s knows quite a bit about hard work. If she's motivated and works hard in your business, I can't see the issue.

BunnyLake · 19/08/2026 09:22

I think you’re worrying about nothing.

Curious77 · 19/08/2026 09:21

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

I don’t think you are being unreasonable at all! I think you clearly have done a great job parenting both kids, but you are aware that they have been lucky and want your daughter to experience other work and see the world from a different perspective.
you are obviously aware that some privileged kids can become entitled and spoiled and expect the world to fall into their lap! A bit of hard work outside of an office environment wouldn’t harm her at all. I can see why you are concerned about her attitude, as going behind your back in order to get a car from her grandparents was manipulative behaviour ( and the poster who said it’s only a 10 year old car, is missing the point entirely! She was told to save for her own!

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