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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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Pinkgorilla101 · 19/08/2026 11:52

I don’t think this is about working in a supermarket etc. You have done what a lot of high earners have done and thrown money at your kids. Therefore they are spoiled. No point blaming you in-laws - you have been doing it for years. And now they are adults you want to stop the bratty behaviour as it isn’t as cute in a grown up. Sorry to be blunt but I have seen it firsthand. Hopefully you can save them before they become intolerable people

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 19/08/2026 11:47

I would push her to get real world experience as I personally think it’s really valuable. DH won’t hire anyone who’s not had a job while at home/at uni and I kind of agree with him. I know a few others who also won’t hire grads who’ve never had a part time job. It’s not super common, but not unheard of.

Realistically she has 4A*s though, so she will probably be fine but if she were my daughter it would be go to uni now or a year at the local pub then reapply. It’s totally up to you though you know her best.

HoldingOntoMySanity · 19/08/2026 11:23

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 10:49

But she loved it? And now runs her own b&b, which she must love too, or she wouldn’t do it.

Why wouldn’t you be happy your child grew up to do something they loved? She may have had more money in the oil industry but might have been miserable.

Yes she won the lottery IMO by doing a job she loves. I've had many jobs over the years (finishing up as a solicitor later in life) and have never had a job i loved. I actively detested being a solicitor. Massive mistake for me, I think.

Job I liked the most was working in a tool shop. That was to keep me going while doing my PhD.

ThePM · 19/08/2026 11:20

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 10:31

She’s 18 not 40. She’s figuring her life out

perfectly normal for her to work at her parent’s place of work for a year to earn some money and get some experience, particularly if it is in the field of which isn’t interested in going into. But even if it wasn’t it is still good experience for her CV.

no indication she will ‘pull rank’ or not stretch herself. She’s an exceptionally bright young women who has given absolutely no indication she’s lazy or coasting. Getting proper work experience is actually much more useful for her than working in a cafe or volunteering if the volunteering is just for the sake of it. Sorry I don’t have any issue with this.

Edited

That’s not quite true though is it?

Getting her grandparents to buy her a car was definitely lazy and coasting. Telling her parents they will employ her is definitely coasting. Not wanting to demonstrate and maximize her independence is coasting.

She is exceptionally privileged and I think OP is very clear eyed about what is happening here. The normal rule for ‘figuring your life out’ is that you do it on your time and your own money. The fact she chooses not to and prefers home comforts (both physical and emotional) is quite enough information for me. But feel free to differ.

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 11:11

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:41

Yes I guess I’m envious of my child, so privileged she gets upset at the thought of even volunteering one day a week. To the point that the school has to contact us based on the things she has previously said.

I responded to you before, OP, questioning if this is rooted in your own insecurities.

Also mentioned I have a DC at Cambridge. Not sure exactly what you mean by 'to the point that the school had to talk to you about her attitude' - but if this is indeed a flag that your dd IS super-spoilt, and thinks volunteering is for losers etc, this attitude won't come across well in the Cambridge law interview AT ALL!

They don't love gap years at the best of times and will question why she didn't get her act together to apply at the right time. Maybe she should think about whether it is right for her.

cloudtreecarpet · 19/08/2026 11:07

HebeMumsnet · 19/08/2026 09:25

Morning, everyone. We've had a few reports about this thread coming in so just thought we'd let you know that we've had a look behind the scenes and, while we've no reason to think this thread is not genuine, it does look as though the OP has left the building now so won't be back to answer any further questions.

We'll leave the thread to run for the time being as there are interesting discussions happening more generally about some of the topics raised.

Not sure why people are still commenting on this and giving the OP advice - apparently she's gone.
Also not sure why MN didn't just take it down given how identifying it seems?

SexyFrenchDepression · 19/08/2026 10:58

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:50

I don’t think she needs a low paid job to be a better person but I do believe she needs varied experience and or volunteering which I believe would help.

You should ensure she is treated like any other employee surely, then she wont be spoilt

If she is good at the job then make sure she qualifies in whatever route she wants to take and give her no advantages compared to anyone else.

My son worked FT in accounts for my DH from 18, he had never worked in a shop/supermarket before as his part time work was in a creative art so he has earned money in that way also. He is hardworking and DH needed an assistant, DS is now 20 and has a new job as he wanted to gain different experience. It worked out really well for him and no regrets on DH doing it. Although DS has done charity work as a performer and is not spoiled even though he is fairly privileged IMO.

DS2 has been in a full time apprenticeship since age 16, he did work in a cafe from 15 once a week though. I dont think those sorts of jobs are needed other that to give them work experience to help them get another job, DS2 wouldnt have got the apprenticeship at such a young age without that, but your daughter has already got that experience, also if she wants to ho down the legal path career wise surely training whilst working is way more beneficial, its what I did and I would prefer my employees to do it that way rather than going to uni first alone.

Diamond7272 · 19/08/2026 10:56

A 10yr old mini is hardly spoilt.

"bangers" for 500 quid don't really exist any more... If they do, they're coffins when hit by a 4x4,which just about every other car is these days.

She's hardly a spoilt brat. I worked in private schools. Years. There you understand what a brat is...

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 19/08/2026 10:56

Not sure I understand the issue. Your daughter wants to be a solicitor. She wants to wait a year to apply to go to an exceptionally prestigious school which she can do after getting amazing grades in her a levels.

So, in the year she is 'waiting' she wants to work for her mother's successful law firm which she has done previously.

So, she wants to work. She wants to work in the field of her chosen study. She wants to apply and go to an amazing university.

It's okay to have a spoiled child as long as their aren't a brat and your daughter certainly doesn't seem like one.

What am I missing?

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 10:51

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 10:34

Cream always rises to the top. The best public school in the country couldn’t do much for Prince Harry.

Two completely different and unrelated points.

AlleycatMarie · 19/08/2026 10:49

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 10:31

She’s 18 not 40. She’s figuring her life out

perfectly normal for her to work at her parent’s place of work for a year to earn some money and get some experience, particularly if it is in the field of which isn’t interested in going into. But even if it wasn’t it is still good experience for her CV.

no indication she will ‘pull rank’ or not stretch herself. She’s an exceptionally bright young women who has given absolutely no indication she’s lazy or coasting. Getting proper work experience is actually much more useful for her than working in a cafe or volunteering if the volunteering is just for the sake of it. Sorry I don’t have any issue with this.

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100% agree with you!

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 10:49

ThatBliddyWoman · 19/08/2026 10:34

Doing a 'normal' job can go the other way too OP.

I have a quite wealthy friend with a daughter who's a 'high flyer', great grades, Russell Grp university etc etc and her parents were quite strict about handouts while she was studying, wanted her to get a job in a pub or shop etc to support herself and get some life experience as she had had a lot handed to her. She got a degree in something to do with the Oil Industry? I think, I know she was set up for a lucrative career in same.

But, she went to work in a hotel while at Uni, loved it and now runs a small B&B. With a 'top notch' degree.

Would you be happy if your daughter did similar?

But she loved it? And now runs her own b&b, which she must love too, or she wouldn’t do it.

Why wouldn’t you be happy your child grew up to do something they loved? She may have had more money in the oil industry but might have been miserable.

MyPurpleHeart · 19/08/2026 10:48

Butchyrestingface · 19/08/2026 08:58

What unrelated law firm is going to give an 18 yo girl straight out of school a job for a year?

That was my point though. Shes getting to do work that any other company wouldn't let her do, because its her mums company.

Might do her some good to go to another firm and work the 'shop floor' for a year.

Do you know how many times ive had doctors refuse a blood test because they don't know where all the tools are kept. I'm sure theres plenty of solicitors out there who don't know how to work their own filing systems

AlleycatMarie · 19/08/2026 10:47

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 10:46

I’m still trying to work out what ‘harm’ could have been done to you!

🤣🤣🤣

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 10:46

AlleycatMarie · 19/08/2026 10:44

I said it didn’t do ‘me’ any harm and I like to think I’m quite a good judge of myself thank you 🤩

I’m still trying to work out what ‘harm’ could have been done to you!

AlleycatMarie · 19/08/2026 10:44

Divebar2021 · 19/08/2026 08:43

You are possibly not the judge of “ harm” though are you?

I said it didn’t do ‘me’ any harm and I like to think I’m quite a good judge of myself thank you 🤩

ThatBliddyWoman · 19/08/2026 10:34

Doing a 'normal' job can go the other way too OP.

I have a quite wealthy friend with a daughter who's a 'high flyer', great grades, Russell Grp university etc etc and her parents were quite strict about handouts while she was studying, wanted her to get a job in a pub or shop etc to support herself and get some life experience as she had had a lot handed to her. She got a degree in something to do with the Oil Industry? I think, I know she was set up for a lucrative career in same.

But, she went to work in a hotel while at Uni, loved it and now runs a small B&B. With a 'top notch' degree.

Would you be happy if your daughter did similar?

Stillreadingalot · 19/08/2026 10:34

Oops- sorry just seen the comments about volunteering. I do confess to being a bit "the labourer is worthy of his hire" but in your situation I would make volunteering a condition of her working with you which if she really wants to be a lawyer would be beneficial. I suspect your dh will not back you on this in which case as MN would say yiu have a dh problem.

Going forward I would be wary of baling her out much and wouldn't be stinting myself in order to leave much !

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 10:34

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 10:32

Of course but a good school also helps.

Cream always rises to the top. The best public school in the country couldn’t do much for Prince Harry.

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 10:32

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 10:12

Good gades are not only down to the school. They are the result of hard work by the child.

Of course but a good school also helps.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 10:31

ThePM · 19/08/2026 10:24

You didn’t misunderstand at all, but you chose to be utterly obtuse.

Yes of course it would be better for her development as an adult if she was working elsewhere because (a) she wouldn’t be able to pull rank because My Mum Is Your Boss (b) she wouldn’t be allowed to coast (c) she would be offered stretch up opportunities if she earned them and (d) she would be judged on her own merits which of course is a double edged sword. She knows it’s a double edged sword and chooses to hide in Mummy’s skirts. Therefore she is a coward.

She’s 18 not 40. She’s figuring her life out

perfectly normal for her to work at her parent’s place of work for a year to earn some money and get some experience, particularly if it is in the field of which isn’t interested in going into. But even if it wasn’t it is still good experience for her CV.

no indication she will ‘pull rank’ or not stretch herself. She’s an exceptionally bright young women who has given absolutely no indication she’s lazy or coasting. Getting proper work experience is actually much more useful for her than working in a cafe or volunteering if the volunteering is just for the sake of it. Sorry I don’t have any issue with this.

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 10:31

GottaBeStrong · 19/08/2026 10:14

Tell her you'll pay her by the hour at the same rate you'd pay her working for you but instead it's for every hour she does volunteering at a voluntary job.

'Common people volunteer to give something back but you 're special so mummy will pay you.'

Stillreadingalot · 19/08/2026 10:26

Apologies not read whole thread. Ii understand your concern as our dc path was considerably smoother than it had been for either of us. I too didn't want my dc to have some of my very negative experience.

Given both you and your dh can employ her would a compromise be that she does 2 days per week with each of you and then spends 1 day per week volunteering in a completely different field/area doing something less "nice" ?

ThePM · 19/08/2026 10:24

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 07:54

She isn’t really trying? Op says she is a highly competent (sort of) paralegal, turning up and and working hard at the firm. Given her grades I would expect she is excellent at it . The OP is upset as she isn’t going to work in a cafe or volunteer but wants to graft in a law firm. Did I misunderstand the post? If the daughter went to a law firm down the road and got a similar job would that be ok?

Edited

You didn’t misunderstand at all, but you chose to be utterly obtuse.

Yes of course it would be better for her development as an adult if she was working elsewhere because (a) she wouldn’t be able to pull rank because My Mum Is Your Boss (b) she wouldn’t be allowed to coast (c) she would be offered stretch up opportunities if she earned them and (d) she would be judged on her own merits which of course is a double edged sword. She knows it’s a double edged sword and chooses to hide in Mummy’s skirts. Therefore she is a coward.

NewNewForest · 19/08/2026 10:20

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

Wow you’re being completely weird and dog in a manger about this.
At least I suppose your daughter won’t find a shortage of things to talk to her therapist about.