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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 13:14

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 13:11

Sorry the world doesn’t work like that. A person who owns a company is perfectly entitled to employ their child. Just as a plumber/builder/butcher/candlestick maker takes on his child into a trade, lawyers can do the same. If I had a company and my child wanted to work for me I’d say brilliant, love to have you. I think the world is going completely mad if this is not a normal thing to do.

The world does work like that if you are an ethical person. No way would I let a family member waltz into a company I’d created without so much as an interview. I want the best person for the job, not the one who simply shares my DNA.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 13:13

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 13:10

That “menial” work (that billions of people all over the world proudly do to support themselves and their families by the way), will help the OP’s daughter to interact with a much wider diversity of people from all walks of life. It will help to build self-awareness, resilience, empathy, and an understanding of just how differently people not like her live by taking her out of her bubble. Skills that would serve her quite well as a lawyer, no?

Working in a cafe is going to give her all those skills?

no shade to working in a cafe- I’ve it myself when a teen but I didn’t learn much, certainly none of things you listed.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 13:12

CharlieEffie · 19/08/2026 13:07

At least they are both working, i know a lot of spoilt entitled young adults who refuse to work because mummy and daddy fund them

But mummy and daddy (and grandparents) are funding her.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 13:11

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 13:01

How is being given a job by mum a sign of ambition? And what about the job she has taken from someone else who could have done with experience in a law firm?

Sorry the world doesn’t work like that. A person who owns a company is perfectly entitled to employ their child. Just as a plumber/builder/butcher/candlestick maker takes on his child into a trade, lawyers can do the same. If I had a company and my child wanted to work for me I’d say brilliant, love to have you. I think the world is going completely mad if this is not a normal thing to do.

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 13:10

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 12:59

Exactly. I don’t think the OP’s daughter is demonstrating ambition here, she is picking the path of least resistance. Those grades are to be expected for a student who has grown up with the level of social, cultural and financial capital that she has, and Oxbridge should be an easy win. Getting to the end of an UG degree without having ever so much as had a job interview for anything is not a good look.

And let’s face it, she’ll be getting an easy ride from all the people at the OP’s firm who got there on merit because she’s the boss’s child, so she’s not even getting an authentic experience there.

So many parents are setting their children up for failure, and it’s good that the OP is at least questioning this.

I'm not just saying this because my DC is at Oxbridge 😂 - but trust me, getting into Oxford or Cambridge is really NOT 'an easy win', whatever background you've had.

Oxbridge admissions teams are highly aware of levels of advantage/privilege amongst their applicants. It's an in-depth process and the teams look at this closely in the hope of levelling the playing field as far as they can and making this as fair as possible.

I know quite a few very high-achieving kids (yes, with 4x Astars at A-level) who didn't get through - it's super tough. You don't just walk into it, whatever educational and societal advantages you've had.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 13:10

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 13:01

I’m still waiting for someone to tell me how doing menial work is going to save her from failure.

That “menial” work (that billions of people all over the world proudly do to support themselves and their families by the way), will help the OP’s daughter to interact with a much wider diversity of people from all walks of life. It will help to build self-awareness, resilience, empathy, and an understanding of just how differently people not like her live by taking her out of her bubble. Skills that would serve her quite well as a lawyer, no?

CharlieEffie · 19/08/2026 13:07

At least they are both working, i know a lot of spoilt entitled young adults who refuse to work because mummy and daddy fund them

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 13:02

Hankunamatata · 19/08/2026 12:59

I have no experience of oxford or Cambridge applications. But wont she need to do something substantial during her gap year to put on the application?

Whats her plan if she doesnt get oxford or Cambridge?

All of my school friends who went to oxford, Cambridge, St Andrews who took gap years traveled abroad and did work with volunteer organisations in aid or medicine. The universities seemed to hold that in high esteem (that was 30 years ago though).

None of them did it for any altruistic purposes - it was just a way to garner favour with the unis, in their words, and now they have children of their own, they will be advising them to do the same when the time comes. It was all fully funded by parents though, and they themselves now have the money to fund their own children.

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 13:01

I’m still waiting for someone to tell me how doing menial work is going to save her from failure.

HoldingOntoMySanity · 19/08/2026 13:01

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 12:30

Probably not. There are lots of parents who are their children and extensions of themselves or just want to boast about what their children are doing.

I hate what my son does. He’s 24 and is a mercenary (yes, really). I never know if he’ll be alive one day to the next. But for some reason, he’s happy so I just have to suck it up and pretend I am happy too.

His father (my ex) is deviated. Not just becuase he does extremely dangerous jobs, but becuase he can’t boast about him. All his family are Oxbridge educated and extremely successful in their careers and his siblings children, same age as my ds are headed the same way. He’s upset that he can’t boast that ds is a Doctor or a lawyer.

Oooh you must be worried about your DS! I hope that he stays safe. Thanks

I'm 53 and have achieved alot in my life academically. Also at various points had very impressive sounding careers. It is true that my parents really enjoyed boasting about it. They LOVED that I went back and retrained as a solicitor even though it was possibly the shittest job I ever had. I quit for various reasons and now do ad hoc admin work including receptionist work which my mother in particular can't stand. She tells everyone I am a contractor being brought in to troubleshoot failing law firms. It's stupid and embarrassing and when I visit home (I live in a different country now) and any of her friends ask me what I'm doing she leaps in and starts screeching hysterically about this troubleshooting nonsense.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 13:01

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 12:55

So how is taking a job that someone else actually needs going to spark her ambition? Stacking supermarket shelves or washing dishes isn’t going to improve her ambition. I wish I’d been as ambitious and motivated as her when I was 18.

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How is being given a job by mum a sign of ambition? And what about the job she has taken from someone else who could have done with experience in a law firm?

Hankunamatata · 19/08/2026 12:59

I have no experience of oxford or Cambridge applications. But wont she need to do something substantial during her gap year to put on the application?

Whats her plan if she doesnt get oxford or Cambridge?

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 12:59

SharkyBait · 19/08/2026 12:47

OP wants her to work in a shop or cafe short term for experience.

And ambition has nothing to do with educational achievement. I know far too many “kids” who got amazing A levels and degrees and that’s where it ended. They became professional students or dossed around whilst their parents funded it. This is quite often the case with kids who have grown up being heavily funded by their parents and/or having parents who solve every problem for them. Encouraging a good work ethic is a good thing, throwing money at and giving a child everything they want without question is not a good life lesson for them.

Exactly. I don’t think the OP’s daughter is demonstrating ambition here, she is picking the path of least resistance. Those grades are to be expected for a student who has grown up with the level of social, cultural and financial capital that she has, and Oxbridge should be an easy win. Getting to the end of an UG degree without having ever so much as had a job interview for anything is not a good look.

And let’s face it, she’ll be getting an easy ride from all the people at the OP’s firm who got there on merit because she’s the boss’s child, so she’s not even getting an authentic experience there.

So many parents are setting their children up for failure, and it’s good that the OP is at least questioning this.

SharkyBait · 19/08/2026 12:59

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 12:55

So how is taking a job that someone else actually needs going to spark her ambition? Stacking supermarket shelves or washing dishes isn’t going to improve her ambition. I wish I’d been as ambitious and motivated as her when I was 18.

Edited

I don’t think the OP’s dd working for OP is a bad thing. I was correcting you when you said she had no ambition for her dd- a gap year job is nothing to do with ambition. The whole thread has focused so much on the job situation when really it is nothing to do with that. It’s to do with the fact the OP has realised she has created a child with a poor attitude and character when it comes to money and she’s now worrying about how to correct this.

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 12:55

SharkyBait · 19/08/2026 12:47

OP wants her to work in a shop or cafe short term for experience.

And ambition has nothing to do with educational achievement. I know far too many “kids” who got amazing A levels and degrees and that’s where it ended. They became professional students or dossed around whilst their parents funded it. This is quite often the case with kids who have grown up being heavily funded by their parents and/or having parents who solve every problem for them. Encouraging a good work ethic is a good thing, throwing money at and giving a child everything they want without question is not a good life lesson for them.

So how is taking a job that someone else actually needs going to spark her ambition? Stacking supermarket shelves or washing dishes isn’t going to improve her ambition. I wish I’d been as ambitious and motivated as her when I was 18.

Lucyccfc68 · 19/08/2026 12:53

Your daughter may not be a spoilt brat, but she has certainly had it easy with you giving her a paid job. (Especially when there are thousands of young people looking for work). Her big problem will be when she wants to get a training contract and has to actually work hard to get it.

There is no reason for her to get a job in customer service, but she should be looking for a role at another solicitors or similar. This is where you can put the boundary. You tell her that ‘Mummy’ isn’t going to give her a job for the next 12 months and she needs to prove she is capable of standing on her own 2 feet and using her own initiative.

There will be some companies who will raise their eyebrows at the only work experience she has being via ‘Mummy’. She’ll be seen as a spoilt nepo baby.

SharkyBait · 19/08/2026 12:47

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 12:34

Wanting to go to Cambridge is pretty ambitious. OP’s not very ambitious for her, is she? She wants her to work in a supermarket or cafe.

OP wants her to work in a shop or cafe short term for experience.

And ambition has nothing to do with educational achievement. I know far too many “kids” who got amazing A levels and degrees and that’s where it ended. They became professional students or dossed around whilst their parents funded it. This is quite often the case with kids who have grown up being heavily funded by their parents and/or having parents who solve every problem for them. Encouraging a good work ethic is a good thing, throwing money at and giving a child everything they want without question is not a good life lesson for them.

Enigma54 · 19/08/2026 12:44

Your daughter has achieved academically; the 4 A stars are proof
of that. She now wants to work with you, but from the way you write, that’s not “real life work”? Do you feel guilty over her privilege? Somehow wishing she would work in a food bank or supermarket? Would that make you feel better OP?

As you know, all jobs, whether working in a supermarket, waitressing in a restaurant or pulling pints at the local pub, offer a variety of skills and experiences. Not all will align with what your DD wants to do though.

It feels to me, that you desperately want to “ undo” her privilege because you feel bad for bringing her up this way?

Some have suggested volunteering with the CAB. That’s actually a good shout. Reason being, DD will gain some valuable experience in law. But, even more importantly, she will see first hand, the hardship that many experience. Learning about the complexity of the benefits system, being a welfare rights advocate and issuing food bank vouchers to the poor or those who are struggling in life. CAB would also tick the customer facing role too.

Sounds to me that DD is doing okay for 18. She has her whole life ahead of her.

kombuchabucha · 19/08/2026 12:42

Feels a bit like you are looking for some reassurance that you haven't done a bad job here OP.

I think we all wish we'd done some things differently in hindsight, and in my experience grandparents are the greatest undo-ers of our hard work in trying to teach kids certain things (primarily not to be spoilt brats, grandparents seem incapable of resisting spoiling their grandchildren!).

I'd cut yourself some slack and recognise the things your proud of about your children and the way you've raised them.

I would definitely speak to the grandparents who went behind your back and gifted the car again and ask them not to do anything of the sort again without consulting you (next they'll be buying them their first houses or something crazy!).

Sorry if you or someone has mentioned this already but I hope you intend to charge your daughter rent if she is staying with you during her gap year. My mum did this when I lived at home during my gap year. It wasn't market rent, but it'll at least help her start to understand that element of the real world. Charge her a portion of the bills whilst you're at it and make her responsible for cooking dinner X times per week.

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 12:34

99bottlesofkombucha · 19/08/2026 12:27

Does she have ambition? What in this thread shows that? Ambition to get paid maybe, that’s quite a different thing!!
op, do you like your husband? Do you think he has good values? Pretty hard for his dc to learn them if he doesn’t.

Wanting to go to Cambridge is pretty ambitious. OP’s not very ambitious for her, is she? She wants her to work in a supermarket or cafe.

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 12:30

ThatBliddyWoman · 19/08/2026 12:23

I totally agree on the happiness factor! Money isn't everything.

But I am wondering if the OP would be happy, if something like this happened. I don't think my friend is. It's the way she speaks about it (or more accurately, the face she pulls if it is mentioned).

To be honest, although I would always want anyone to be happy, I think a lot of parents look at their children and wish they had done something more lucrative. You see quite a lot of posts on here of a similar feel, 'My DC wants to do (XYZ) but there's no money/prospects in it!'

Probably not. There are lots of parents who are their children and extensions of themselves or just want to boast about what their children are doing.

I hate what my son does. He’s 24 and is a mercenary (yes, really). I never know if he’ll be alive one day to the next. But for some reason, he’s happy so I just have to suck it up and pretend I am happy too.

His father (my ex) is deviated. Not just becuase he does extremely dangerous jobs, but becuase he can’t boast about him. All his family are Oxbridge educated and extremely successful in their careers and his siblings children, same age as my ds are headed the same way. He’s upset that he can’t boast that ds is a Doctor or a lawyer.

99bottlesofkombucha · 19/08/2026 12:27

SallyRabbit · 19/08/2026 07:02

Your children are both doing well academically, both have ambition and both want to work in addition to that. I find it quite telling that you are also cross about your son working in art galleries and feel that’s somehow bad.

It’s as if you think they need to struggle to become full adults. But there will be enough struggles with studies, with going for ambitious degrees and internships etc. There’s no unique virtue in the struggle of working in more customer-facing jobs.

Truthfully, and this is a bit harsher than I try to be on here so I am sorry, your first post came across as quite weird, quite petty and quite resentful of your impressive kids.

Does she have ambition? What in this thread shows that? Ambition to get paid maybe, that’s quite a different thing!!
op, do you like your husband? Do you think he has good values? Pretty hard for his dc to learn them if he doesn’t.

ThatBliddyWoman · 19/08/2026 12:23

FlakyFox · 19/08/2026 10:49

But she loved it? And now runs her own b&b, which she must love too, or she wouldn’t do it.

Why wouldn’t you be happy your child grew up to do something they loved? She may have had more money in the oil industry but might have been miserable.

I totally agree on the happiness factor! Money isn't everything.

But I am wondering if the OP would be happy, if something like this happened. I don't think my friend is. It's the way she speaks about it (or more accurately, the face she pulls if it is mentioned).

To be honest, although I would always want anyone to be happy, I think a lot of parents look at their children and wish they had done something more lucrative. You see quite a lot of posts on here of a similar feel, 'My DC wants to do (XYZ) but there's no money/prospects in it!'

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/08/2026 12:08

ThePM · 19/08/2026 10:24

You didn’t misunderstand at all, but you chose to be utterly obtuse.

Yes of course it would be better for her development as an adult if she was working elsewhere because (a) she wouldn’t be able to pull rank because My Mum Is Your Boss (b) she wouldn’t be allowed to coast (c) she would be offered stretch up opportunities if she earned them and (d) she would be judged on her own merits which of course is a double edged sword. She knows it’s a double edged sword and chooses to hide in Mummy’s skirts. Therefore she is a coward.

That's a bit harsh. Clearly she's not a shirker, nor lacking in intelligence. Getting experience at her family law firm might smack of nepotism but she sounds like she has her head screwed on.

The real world is still there for the taking and shd has her whole life to experience it in all its glory.

lightseeker · 19/08/2026 12:00

"Yes I guess I’m envious of my child, so privileged she gets upset at the thought of even volunteering one day a week. To the point that the school has to contact us based on the things she has previously said."

Why has the school had to contact you?

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