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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

OP posts:
EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/08/2026 15:21

Work is work. It’s not forever. It doesn’t matter what kind of job she is doing, once she is showing up.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:20

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 15:19

I'm not talking about Oxbridge, I’m talking about employers.

How would they know of was your family firm? I wouldn’t disclose that.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 15:19

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:16

How would Cambridge know you were working for a family firm?

I'm not talking about Oxbridge, I’m talking about employers.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 15:18

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:11

I thought students who went to Cambridge weren’t allowed to work whilst they were there. How would they get this experience before they graduate given they are most likely doing internships during their main holidays.

teenage jobs are scarce and most don’t do gap years so struggling to understand where they would have had the chance to get this relevant cafe experience before they graduate that would be of substantial length to be enough to have learnt from

Edited

Oxbridge have very short terms.

You know what’s great experience? Voluntary work. And not the type where you travel on mummy and daddy’s dime, but genuine, focused voluntary work (and again, recruiters can always tell the difference between the two). And I don’t know why you’re stuck on “cafe experience”. I’d much rather hire someone who got a job in a cafe off their own back than someone who walked into a job at the family business.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:16

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 15:15

Thank you. Who would have thought that living in a bubble created by your family wouldn’t make you the best employee in the big, wide world? Especially not in a profession where you’re supposed to be advocating for people often during incredibly difficult periods of their lives.

How would Cambridge know you were working for a family firm?

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:15

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 15:13

OpP's DD is planning a gap year. She will have Summer vacs x 2 to do customer -facing jobs.

That was a general point not relating to the Op.

or was the PP saying they won’t consider Cambridge grads who haven’t taken a gap year?

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 15:15

jobsagooduninnit · 19/08/2026 15:08

I am a partner in a city law firm. You might want to let her know I don’t interview any grad applicants who haven’t had a customer facing job. Experience shows they tend to make better lawyers.
I don’t need the cleverest most well connected person in the room. We deal with people. Customer facing roles teach humility, self awareness, time management, resilience and how to manage different types of people they will come across as clients. They also disabuse the over privileged that their privilege counts for much in the real world.
Someone who showed such a narrow work experience as you describe, and especially when it’s a family business wouldn’t get far in my firm.
Having said that it doesn’t have to be now. It could be during uni or even afterwards while she’s sitting the LPC.

Thank you. Who would have thought that living in a bubble created by your family wouldn’t make you the best employee in the big, wide world? Especially not in a profession where you’re supposed to be advocating for people often during incredibly difficult periods of their lives.

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 15:13

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:11

I thought students who went to Cambridge weren’t allowed to work whilst they were there. How would they get this experience before they graduate given they are most likely doing internships during their main holidays.

teenage jobs are scarce and most don’t do gap years so struggling to understand where they would have had the chance to get this relevant cafe experience before they graduate that would be of substantial length to be enough to have learnt from

Edited

OpP's DD is planning a gap year. She will have Summer vacs x 2 to do customer -facing jobs.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 15:11

jobsagooduninnit · 19/08/2026 15:08

I am a partner in a city law firm. You might want to let her know I don’t interview any grad applicants who haven’t had a customer facing job. Experience shows they tend to make better lawyers.
I don’t need the cleverest most well connected person in the room. We deal with people. Customer facing roles teach humility, self awareness, time management, resilience and how to manage different types of people they will come across as clients. They also disabuse the over privileged that their privilege counts for much in the real world.
Someone who showed such a narrow work experience as you describe, and especially when it’s a family business wouldn’t get far in my firm.
Having said that it doesn’t have to be now. It could be during uni or even afterwards while she’s sitting the LPC.

I thought students who went to Cambridge weren’t allowed to work whilst they were there. How would they get this experience before they graduate given they are most likely doing internships during their main holidays.

teenage jobs are scarce and most don’t do gap years so struggling to understand where they would have had the chance to get this relevant cafe experience before they graduate that would be of substantial length to be enough to have learnt from

jobsagooduninnit · 19/08/2026 15:08

I am a partner in a city law firm. You might want to let her know I don’t interview any grad applicants who haven’t had a customer facing job. Experience shows they tend to make better lawyers.
I don’t need the cleverest most well connected person in the room. We deal with people. Customer facing roles teach humility, self awareness, time management, resilience and how to manage different types of people they will come across as clients. They also disabuse the over privileged that their privilege counts for much in the real world.
Someone who showed such a narrow work experience as you describe, and especially when it’s a family business wouldn’t get far in my firm.
Having said that it doesn’t have to be now. It could be during uni or even afterwards while she’s sitting the LPC.

walrushurricane · 19/08/2026 15:04

Isitevensummer · 19/08/2026 14:45

you make some great points. But l think its people like this who can really struggle with lifes ups and downs. Without facing some adversity - shit jobs, horrible bosses, not enough money - people don't develop resilience and the knowledge that they can cope. Over protective parents rob their children of this learning and seriously disadvantage them going forward.

I'm not sure that having a shit job developes resilience for shit jobs and not all shop or bar jobs are shit anyway. Arguably the dd doesn't need to develop resilience for shit jobs.

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:58

Without facing some adversity - shit jobs, horrible bosses, not enough money - people don't develop resilience and the knowledge that they can cope.

Lots of people manage to develop resilience without those things. OP’s daughter is highly unlikely to ever experience not enough money. She’ll doubtless have horrible bosses when she starts work after graduation.

Xanhi · 19/08/2026 14:57

I think you are overthinking it too much. She has just got a fantastic set of results. She is still young and it sounds like she hasn't quite got the confidence to branch out into unfamiliar territory yet. Your post is incredibly privileged and out of touch so it is hardly surprising that she might also be a bit like that. Doing a few different jobs isn't going to change that.

SonK · 19/08/2026 14:53

I agree with a previous poster, you are being a little weird and I wish I had this 'problem' you think you have.

I have worked lots of retail and customer facing jobs when I was younger, but don't see anything wrong with your daughter wanting to work for you and firm.

If I were in your position, I would just support her whatever she decides to do

Subbdue · 19/08/2026 14:47

Do you know any lawyers who do pro bono work? Some do sessions at citizens advice and with charities. She could shadow them. She would be getting the legal experience she wants and needs, but the bonus would be seeing ‘real life’.

Cambridge won’t be very interested in supermarket work. They would be more impressed by some extra interest in the legal arena. She could perhaps consider a writing competition or try to prepare articles for a legal journal. That would put her in a better position.

There are plenty of kids with four stars trying to get into Oxbridge. I hope she is managing her expectations as there is absolutely no guarantee she will get in.

Isitevensummer · 19/08/2026 14:45

TheOccupier · 19/08/2026 14:39

If you block DD coming back to work in your firm, will your DH give her a job in his? So this is all hypothetical?

If DD is motivated by self-interest, perhaps you can leverage that. Offer to pay for a short secretarial course and then she can go and apply for legal secretary temp work. Will be relevant to her future applications and gets her out into the real working world. I am not sure that privileged DCs should be taking retail/service type jobs from those who really need them and don't have other options... seems a bit Marie Antoinette. You could also suggest that she works at the CAB or your local free legal clinic - yes it's probably unpaid but it would again be relevant experience for law. Perhaps you could offer to pay her what she'd be paid at your firm if that makes the difference, subject to good feedback from supervisors?

you make some great points. But l think its people like this who can really struggle with lifes ups and downs. Without facing some adversity - shit jobs, horrible bosses, not enough money - people don't develop resilience and the knowledge that they can cope. Over protective parents rob their children of this learning and seriously disadvantage them going forward.

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 14:41

TheOccupier · 19/08/2026 14:39

If you block DD coming back to work in your firm, will your DH give her a job in his? So this is all hypothetical?

If DD is motivated by self-interest, perhaps you can leverage that. Offer to pay for a short secretarial course and then she can go and apply for legal secretary temp work. Will be relevant to her future applications and gets her out into the real working world. I am not sure that privileged DCs should be taking retail/service type jobs from those who really need them and don't have other options... seems a bit Marie Antoinette. You could also suggest that she works at the CAB or your local free legal clinic - yes it's probably unpaid but it would again be relevant experience for law. Perhaps you could offer to pay her what she'd be paid at your firm if that makes the difference, subject to good feedback from supervisors?

Some excellent ideas here. Let's hope OP returns to read them.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:41

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:38

Not the point of the thread, but - 'it's really easy to get into Oxbridge if your parents are rich, and I know this because I work in HE' doesn't make a shred of sense when the Oxbridge admissions tutors will have the exact same awareness of educational advantage and privilege as you do!

But that’s not me contradicting myself, is it? That’s me making a point that you don’t agree with, which is fair enough.

TheOccupier · 19/08/2026 14:39

If you block DD coming back to work in your firm, will your DH give her a job in his? So this is all hypothetical?

If DD is motivated by self-interest, perhaps you can leverage that. Offer to pay for a short secretarial course and then she can go and apply for legal secretary temp work. Will be relevant to her future applications and gets her out into the real working world. I am not sure that privileged DCs should be taking retail/service type jobs from those who really need them and don't have other options... seems a bit Marie Antoinette. You could also suggest that she works at the CAB or your local free legal clinic - yes it's probably unpaid but it would again be relevant experience for law. Perhaps you could offer to pay her what she'd be paid at your firm if that makes the difference, subject to good feedback from supervisors?

topcat2014 · 19/08/2026 14:39

I think both your children have amazing opportunities and it is great you have both been able to provide these. Don't feel guilty that others may not have these.

Your daughter will gain more from continuing to work in your medium sized business. It's not like you are a sole trader.

Kids grow up anyway. I worked in a shop. DD works in a kitchen, albeit in a glamorous cotswold setting.

I get why you feel as you do, but id leave things as they are.

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:39

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:30

But that’s not me contradicting myself, is it? Fair enough if you think I’m wrong, but I’m not contradicting myself.

(sorry, forgot to quote you there!)

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:38

Not the point of the thread, but - 'it's really easy to get into Oxbridge if your parents are rich, and I know this because I work in HE' doesn't make a shred of sense when the Oxbridge admissions tutors will have the exact same awareness of educational advantage and privilege as you do!

Isitevensummer · 19/08/2026 14:35

I think you are right, but if you and DH are not on the same page, it's impossible to enforce.

Oioiqueen · 19/08/2026 14:34

Honestly I think the main issue is your family pandering to her. My stance would be you want a gap year fine, you'll be paid minimum wage by me and there won't be any additional nice items from elsewhere. You want to take a gap year as an adult then you are treated as one. Of course we know that she has DH and grandparents wrapped round her little finger.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:33

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:26

No, I don’t think a City contract lawyer or any other corporate role needs to know that. How would it help them?

All I can say is: wow. A City contract lawyer or a person working any other corporate role does not need to understand how to deal with challenging people, power dynamics, and abusive personalities. Okay then.

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