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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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Jeska7 · 18/08/2026 22:46

She sounds hard working and you’ve said that. She’s done well to get those grades and sounds like she’s doing well at your firm. Surely work there would be most appropriate for her degree and career choices? Yes might be a bit spoilt with the car and almost bragging by the sound of it. Is it worthwhile having a word with the grandparents so it doesn’t happen again?

Does she pay for anything? Now she 18, could she charge her rent? Even if you save it for her. Can she pay her car insurance.m?

Supermarket jobs and waitressing jobs are not necessarily easy to come by anyway.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/08/2026 22:44

Also @ForJadeEagle shops and restaurants are not a fucking theme park for the privileged to "experience the working class". And take jobs from others who desperately need them.

lightseeker · 18/08/2026 22:43

Don't be silly OP. Of course it's not the case that everyone has to work in supermarkets!

If your DD wants to apply to Oxbridge, then what do you think it's going to get her in - a placement in a law company? Or shelf stacking in Tesco? You sound very curmudgeonly for no reason. Are you envious of your own child?

Ramblingaway · 18/08/2026 22:40

I would suggest that rather than her taking up a service job that someone else desperately needs, she should find some meaningful voluntary work, serving her community. She could still work for you part time but I'd make that conditional on her pulling her finger out and starting to think about other people/animals/environment etc.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 18/08/2026 22:39

You are very privileged, of course the kids want to take advantage of that. At least they want to work and it sounds like they have a good work ethic. I don't see why working as a paralegal or art dealer is any less useful than working in a shop. With their background it's unlikely that they are going to work in a high st shop is it?

TheGander · 18/08/2026 22:38

Luxury problem.

wizzywig · 18/08/2026 22:36

It sounds like she'd be a great barrister! Shes posh and privileged, go with it.

croisette · 18/08/2026 22:36

You’re overthinking it and have shared far too much identifying if information about your family as well. Some kids have terrible struggles in adolescence — privileged kids as well as others — you really need to be thankful for what you have, the fact they seem well balanced and happy — and your daughter wanting to work in the family office on her gap year is hardly the worst thing in the world!

SlightlyTerrifiedButPolite · 18/08/2026 22:36

She’s taking a year off to apply to Cambridge. She wants to study law at university and so has asked to work at your firm, a solicitors firm. Surely this isn’t some teenage brat? That’s relevant work experience to support future ambitious aims

I can tell you that I wrote to 50 law firms trying to get work experience as a teenager (I studied law at Oxford) and I got one offer of 3 weeks.

Give her a break?

You want your kids to be successful but both of them are currently prioritising getting work experience for their chosen high flying careers rather than working as waiters (btw really hard to get those jobs too without experience). These careers are extremely competitive and they are doing what they need to do

drspouse · 18/08/2026 22:34

I had a couple of service industry jobs as a student which didn't really teach me anything except that I am rubbish at cleaning (one was part cleaning, one all cleaning. The first one had some kitchen work which was fine!).
I've also been an au pair which was fine except for one of the children who was very spoilt (not my opinion, I learned the Greek for "little devil"), and was a volunteer teacher in a developing country. The last two were definitely more me and helped in what I did next.

So no, I don't think just any job in the service industry is going to help. But a relevant job will be great experience. If she wants to be a lawyer, then working in another firm doing admin would be a good step.

Calendulaaria · 18/08/2026 22:34

Why are you so angry/resentful? Both your children have a work ethic, it's not like they are stoners, sitting at home on video games, not wanting to work. There's something underneath all this that is entirely from you, nothing to do with either child.

Namechangewegovyjune26 · 18/08/2026 22:34

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

well I think you should have vetoed the car gift and made her pay for it. Even if the money would eventually be returned to her.

HoppityBun · 18/08/2026 22:32

I do understand your pov and I understand why you’re worried, but you’re not going to put this right by entering into a battle because your DH and DD will outmanoeuvre you. Perhaps time in the art gallery might suit her.

University might be a leveller or she might get in with a similar crowd and sail through life, blithely having quite a narrow view of the world. I know children who’ve had a privileged upbringing and, annoyingly, they’re very successful, in one case stunningly so. It’s a parallel universe. It’s money, high powered schools , contacts and lack of everyday stressors that have enabled them to get where they are.

Your DD has worked hard to get the results that she has. Give it time. You aren’t going to change things now.

Motheranddaughter · 18/08/2026 22:31

Why on earth do you want your DC working in those type of jobs when they don’t have to.
I don’t understand that

JLou08 · 18/08/2026 22:30

I worked as a waitress when I was a teenager. Easiest job I ever had, a lot of fun too. What do you think she will gain from what you call a 'normal' job?
It seems a bit unfair to say that someone who got 3 A*s and worked aged 16-18 has never had to work for anything.
What do you mean when you say she's not a lovely young woman?

3luckystars · 18/08/2026 22:29

I never worked in a supermarket and I turned out ok.

ShrinkyDinkyPetal · 18/08/2026 22:28

I get it, when I recruit school/uni leavers I'm more impressed the ones who've worked in shops/bars etc than those who've had more relevant work experience through their parents. I've generally found they've fitted it better, less naive, more willing to chip in with useful opinions and more reliable. This isnt elite law recruitment though so direct work experience may count for more.

Datgal · 18/08/2026 22:28

Beachbeach · 18/08/2026 22:09

YANBU

I have a privileged life now. I’ve had some amazing adult jobs. But going back to teens, I worked in a tea rooms, a newsagent, an interior shop, a clothing shop, a shoe shop! Babysitting. It all helped shape who I am today.

i want the same for my children. To see a normal job and how fucking hard it can be to be on your feet for 10 hours

Definitely this. It really helped me too. I actually think you can tell as adults who have worked in jobs like this in how they treat people generally. Tend to be kinder and more patient...not as demanding and entitled.

Pedallleur · 18/08/2026 22:28

She may be one of those people who studies, succeeds, lives/marries well. Could go into politics or work for a blue chip company. If she can live a golden life is it that bad? I don't think Boris or Blair had Saturday jobs or worked in a supermarket

MelonSorbet · 18/08/2026 22:27

I bet your poor paralegal staff who've had the boss's teenage daughter "shadowing" them for two years would rather she worked in a cafe as well!

OhHobnobs · 18/08/2026 22:24

Pearlstillsinging · 18/08/2026 21:46

Well 6 months or so working in a supermarket isn't going to undo 18 yrs of poor parenting, is it?

YABU, if she plans to study law, working in a solicitors office seems like the most sensible choice

Agree.

lalalagarden · 18/08/2026 22:22

Op, they change dramatically from age 21 onwards so she’s probably still got a lot of maturity to happen.

godmum56 · 18/08/2026 22:20

I think there are two issues here. One is the "real job" thing which i think you are being a little OTT about. The other is working for parents and I think this is not impossible but needs to be handled more carefully. Stuff like line manager not being the parent (d'uh) and the t's and C's of the job being enforced as for any other employee.

Ponderingwindow · 18/08/2026 22:17

I would expect her to secure her own job. With 2 years of experience, she may be able to secure something better for herself than an entry level customer service role. You should not stand in her way if she manages to do well for herself.

We have given my daughter certain advantages. She has also had to work hard to secure other opportunities. All her volunteer positions, which are surprisingly competitive in her area of interest, have been done of her own initiative.

We helped by teaching her how to navigate a professional environment, how to write a cv, and by helping her to get her first teen job that was admittedly a step up from the average experience.

thisismeithinkorisit · 18/08/2026 22:17

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

so she's a horrible person? ignoring the car issue, in what other ways does she demonstrate what an awful young woman she is? given she's so horrid, how do your staff feel about you allowing her to keep working there?

or, she's pulled a crafty one which is understandably annoying but is otherwise a bright, hard working and ambitious young woman who doesn't actually need knocking down a peg or too by stacking shelves for minimum wage so she can empathise with the working classes (🙄)

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