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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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TrunkElliot · 18/08/2026 21:41

I think you have given a lot of personal information about your kids.
Maybe ask MN to delete it and repost it leaving out their uni choices and where they are doing internships

But then it isn’t a brag anymore

Sgtmajormummy · 18/08/2026 23:17

It feels like you’re desperately looking for something to hold over your daughter and gain some sense of control. Now is not the time for mother-daughter power struggles, she’s a young adult.

You can’t fault her exam results.
She’s applying for a more desirable course of studies next year.
She has got her driving licence but has bypassed your veto on a car through her grandparents. Which has really pee’d you off!
Now she’s asking to work in your office as before and you’re refusing, saying she needs to get an irrelevant minimum wage job…

Could she do volunteer work to experience some of the nitty gritty you think she would benefit from?

(I worked out of necessity at university and gap year. I made great friends but it was not good for my studies.)

5128gap · 18/08/2026 23:16

I genuinely don't see the value in privileged children pretending not to be privileged by working in hard low paid jobs.
Its all a bit Jarvis Cocker, isn't it? Because to get the full grunt job 'experience' you have to need the job. You have to have no choice but to put up with rubbish pay and hard work and learn to make it work knowing its a means to a end.
Your DD has the opportunity to do meaningful work she's good at and interested in. Why waste that just to give her a fake experience?
If you really are convinced she needs to widen her horizons, you'd be far better encouraging voluntary work that has a point to it and leave the NMW jobs for those who need them.

FlamingoFloss · 18/08/2026 23:16

I understand where you’re coming from but I do think continuing to work for will do her career much more good than not. What about trying to get her to volunteer? A food bank, shelter, soup kitchen, hostel, hospice - there are so many volunteering opportunities where she could gain so much experience of what a not so privileged life can look like. It can be really quite humbling and it should like what she needs

Random321 · 18/08/2026 23:14

I'm baffled that you can't understand why soneone who wants to study law would prefer to spend a year working in a legal practice rather than a supermarket.

She doesn't want a retail career, she wants a legal and that extra year will have her in a far stronger position than the rest of the trainees starting at the same time.

By any change, did you habe to graft and work harder than academically & professional that your kids?

This seem highly academic with stronge career paths. There's nothing wrong with this why do you resent it do much? Is it because they have it "easier" than you?

If she's a sploit brat that's a seperate issue but nothing to do with her logical preference to spend the year in a legal firm. The fact it's your just makes it easier.

EmptyInTheValley · 18/08/2026 23:13

It's ok, we plebs didn't all start off working in lowly jobs either.

CheeryOP · 18/08/2026 23:09

This.

ThatWorthyGuide · 18/08/2026 23:07

You are contradicting yourself. You say ‘she has never had to work for anything she has wanted’ but also that ‘She worked incredibly hard for those grades’.

padampada · 18/08/2026 23:05

I think you are coming to terms with the reality of the lives your children have and are likely to lead.

Most people in those kinds of jobs haven't really seen the other side of life and won't necessarily need it to succeed in the path you've set them on. You have produced very successful children and now, as a typical mother, you are worrying you haven't been perfect and produced more worldly humans with a great sense of their privilege. Rest assured that life throws all sorts of challenges at even the most privileged people. I also think you need to acknowledge that they have worked hard for their good grades, even if they have better schooling than others can afford.

cloudtreecarpet · 18/08/2026 23:03

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I did wonder because it seems a bit too ridiculous

Would anyone genuinely worry about this? Both kids seem fine and, as pp have said, if you raise privileged kids of course they are going to be just that - privileged - not "working class made good".

BibbityBoppityTwo · 18/08/2026 23:01

She’s not spoilt, she’s privileged. But she’s worked hard at school and does a good job when she’s working for you. She’s not slacking off or moaning. I don’t think there’s any harm in letting her continue to work for you. The most important thing is that she’s willing to work and she does a good job of it.

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SimmeryAxe · 18/08/2026 22:59

@Floatingdownriver I’d suggest she goes to Durham and then Transfers for second year. It’s easier to get in to Cambridge in second year.

Really? I did not know that.
Please expand.

HewasH2O · 18/08/2026 22:59

Genuine Q. Do either of you actually need an 18 year old employee who will need to be trained and supervised for 12 months? Presumably you wouldn't be doing the training & supervision yourself, so that falls on someone else in your team & you're picking up the tab.

TokyoSushi · 18/08/2026 22:59

They live a fabulous life, just let them. It seems like they’re going to be absolutely fine. Extremely privileged, but fine.

Atleastitsnotsunstroke · 18/08/2026 22:57

She could get some voluntary experience helping in the community. Do you help in the community? As you can set an example.

Customer service roles teach people skills - does she lack those skills or not?

ComedyGuns · 18/08/2026 22:56

This is such a glaringly non-problem!!

She gained four A stars and is going to go to a brilliant university. What happens in between is sort of immaterial. Just relax a bit.

OnlyUsername · 18/08/2026 22:55

Teenagers do retail and bar/waiting tables work because it fits around education (weekends and evenings), not because it's character-building.

She may be a brat but if I could have got a paralegal or art dealership job out of uni (Durham, incidentally) I wouldn't have ended up in a call centre, but we don't all have rich mummies and daddies - and I graduated into the 2008 crash.

ThatLemonBee · 18/08/2026 22:54

If as you say “ she is not a very nice adult “ then I would stop all support apart from university costs . I just had the “ privilege “ of spending the week with my cousins 26 year old law graduate last week ( she came to us from abroad for a holiday ) and omg ! Her parents spoiled her , she is so self centred it’s shocking , just like your daughter she had access to too much without having to work for it and now her parents are regretting it . She is an adult that despite having left her parents house ( to move in to her boyfriend who is also a spoiled brat whose parents even bought him a house ) still feels the need to ask parents to pay for her holidays , car and is to be honest rude . Was here all week , bought food for herself but never even asked anyone if they wanted any , never paid a meal out , never bought a gift .
please try and stop that behaviour now

DrumsPleaseFab · 18/08/2026 22:53

You cannot have it both ways

you can give them financial support, a leg up work wise, push them into lucrative careers

you cannot then ALSO want them to be self made and humble

they have taken the privileges you passed on to them and run with it

not sure what you expected

you have a lot to be grateful for. They have a lot to be grateful for. But yeah they will not be self made working class as that was never on the cards anyway

Butchyrestingface · 18/08/2026 22:49

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

She obviously hasn’t figured out yet you don’t like her, OP.

Once she does, you’ll be back on here starting Why doesn’t she write? Why doesn’t she call?” type threads

Imaynotbeadorablebutitry · 18/08/2026 22:48

I’m going to go against the majority here, i actually think everyone should do a basic customer service job at some point. I worked in retail during my A-levels and during university holidays etc and it’s a really good foundation for your work life and also personal life. It’s good to work in an environment with people from all different walks of life.

Supermarket work is hard and under appreciated, people look down on you and can be very dismissive if they haven’t worked in similar customer facing roles themselves. It’s not until you’ve worked it that environment that you appreciate the staff that work there. A lot of customers treat you very poorly and are judgemental. When I worked there lots of the younger staff were children or Drs, solicitors, teachers etc. The vast majority of us were studying either at school or university, yet we also got to mix and work alongside older staff members. The age varied from 16 year olds, to people in their late 70s. It’s rare to have such a cross section of ages working closely together within a workforce. Its not a glamorous job, but it does teach you how to deal with different types of people and also how to mix with them.

Lostinbrum · 18/08/2026 22:48

Best use of a gap year is to go backpacking. Get a fruit picking job in Australia or do camp America or something. See some of this amazing planet before she gets tied down in coursework exams and jobs

TheSunBeatsDown · 18/08/2026 22:47

I agree there's too much identifying info here.

Nothing you are telling us sounds 'disappointing'!

I don't think supermarket jobs exist to knock the corners of your children, and they are quite hard to come by these days. Don't employ her if you don't want, but if your DH is happy, that would be a different job/experience for her CV.

This is just not an issue, no failure, no disappointments, nothing terrible going on here. Even the car is not a great crime either, lucky her, she's remained motivated and engaged with life, and jumps at the opportunity to work, good for her.

walrushurricane · 18/08/2026 22:46

Is this real?! Your dd has worked really hard and done well academically and can get valuable work experience via you and your DH but you think she should work in a shop or pub instead? Wtf.