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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:42

MarthaLovesLaughing · 19/08/2026 06:39

This is very concerning imo. I'm not bothered that she has an easy time working for you or her Dad. I'm bothered that she (and the whole family?) don't have enough kindness, empathy and understanding to help others for free.

There are so many charities which need volunteers

If none of you will show kindness then there's your issue. And YES. This is your fault. Lead by example

I do volunteer most weekends. DH would “never work for free” as he puts it. I do agree it’s our fault as parents.

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ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:41

lightseeker · 18/08/2026 22:43

Don't be silly OP. Of course it's not the case that everyone has to work in supermarkets!

If your DD wants to apply to Oxbridge, then what do you think it's going to get her in - a placement in a law company? Or shelf stacking in Tesco? You sound very curmudgeonly for no reason. Are you envious of your own child?

Yes I guess I’m envious of my child, so privileged she gets upset at the thought of even volunteering one day a week. To the point that the school has to contact us based on the things she has previously said.

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MarthaLovesLaughing · 19/08/2026 06:39

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:33

I’ve tried to get her to volunteer she has said she doesn’t want to volunteer because it’s her time and her father told her a while back “never work for free” I suppose we are both to blame for her attitude.

This is very concerning imo. I'm not bothered that she has an easy time working for you or her Dad. I'm bothered that she (and the whole family?) don't have enough kindness, empathy and understanding to help others for free.

There are so many charities which need volunteers

If none of you will show kindness then there's your issue. And YES. This is your fault. Lead by example

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:38

McSpoot · 19/08/2026 06:35

But your son has done this (worked for people other than you/family) and it still isn't enough for you. So, it seems that this statement isn't wholly true.

The post is mainly about my daughter. My son has done well and we are very proud of him sometimes the attitude needs to dial down but he’s surrounded by very similar people to him even in his internship. It’s not as though JPM take on the average person somehow 5 of his friends from school (who attend different unis) are in the same internship different divisions but same company.

There’s been things he has said previously that are just wrong but that’s mine and my husbands fault for not instilling better values.

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Treesandflower · 19/08/2026 06:37

Why not offer her three days work on the proviso she volunteers for one/two days a week? This would enhance her CV and show she can speak to people from a variety of backgrounds etc.

Maybe one day at a food bank.
One day elsewhere, maybe signposting people to information they need - citizens advice (not sure they would take her for one year) or volunteer at a school helping readers etc.

If she was a nice kid I’d say just let her work at yours but offer her what she wants to do but only if she volunteers too.

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:37

She must have gone to a good school to get grades like that. Did they not do D of E or similar to help build resilience?

curious79 · 19/08/2026 06:36

Everything has come to her on a plate. Why would she go and work in a supermarket if she can work in your firm or your husband‘s? Why would she work hard to get a car if she knows she can get grandma to give her one?

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:35

Calendulaaria · 18/08/2026 22:34

Why are you so angry/resentful? Both your children have a work ethic, it's not like they are stoners, sitting at home on video games, not wanting to work. There's something underneath all this that is entirely from you, nothing to do with either child.

Maybe it’s all just entirely me.

Regardless It would be great for my children to see volunteering as a good thing etc instead of thinking and saying what do I get out of that.

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Twiglets1 · 19/08/2026 06:35

Talk about first world problems.

McSpoot · 19/08/2026 06:35

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:31

This. I just want her to get real world experience. Working for me is different to working for someone else

But your son has done this (worked for people other than you/family) and it still isn't enough for you. So, it seems that this statement isn't wholly true.

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:33

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:32

Unskilled jobs eg in hospitality (which my DC did) are quite hard to come by now due to the change in rules in NI.
Working for you is going to benefit her subject wise but if she wants to get into Cambridge even with those grades she’s going to need to demonstrate she’s had some broader life experience, or plans to.
Could you suggest she plans at least 3 months of independent travelling, works with you 4 days a week & volunteer s for a charity 1 day a week?
Our local food bank takes lots of volunteers.
Frame it as improving her chances of getting into Cambridge.

I’ve tried to get her to volunteer she has said she doesn’t want to volunteer because it’s her time and her father told her a while back “never work for free” I suppose we are both to blame for her attitude.

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NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:32

Unskilled jobs eg in hospitality (which my DC did) are quite hard to come by now due to the change in rules in NI.
Working for you is going to benefit her subject wise but if she wants to get into Cambridge even with those grades she’s going to need to demonstrate she’s had some broader life experience, or plans to.
Could you suggest she plans at least 3 months of independent travelling, works with you 4 days a week & volunteer s for a charity 1 day a week?
Our local food bank takes lots of volunteers.
Frame it as improving her chances of getting into Cambridge.

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:31

Missey85 · 19/08/2026 05:37

Im guessing she wants her daughter to work with people that let's face it will probably let her get away with things she wouldn't in someone else's firm working for family has been a bit of a easy ride it sounds and her mum wants her to get real world experience which is sensible

This. I just want her to get real world experience. Working for me is different to working for someone else

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ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:29

Butchyrestingface · 18/08/2026 22:49

She obviously hasn’t figured out yet you don’t like her, OP.

Once she does, you’ll be back on here starting Why doesn’t she write? Why doesn’t she call?” type threads

Okay if that’s your take on it. I had 5 miscarriages when we were trying for children, we had to go through the IVF route and that wasn’t always successful. It was a journey and a half for us to even have children. I very much love my children and they know it perhaps we’ve just spoilt them. I’m not going to go into the things she’s said or done but even her school got touch in regards to some stuff she has previously said.

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BloomersAreIn · 19/08/2026 06:27

My cousin did similar thing and I agree with you that it’s not ideal. She worked for her dad in her dad’s company where her mum also worked. As a consequence everyone was very lovely to her all of the time, she could take days of when she liked and didn’t have to worry about the commute or being late or anything. She didn’t make friends at work because she was in a strange position. I’m not saying she would be better off sweeping chimneys but she was really cushioned from the real world. Then she decided that she wouldn’t go to university after all and just stayed working for her dad. That put him in a difficult position because then he had to keep her on after the year because the alternative was sacking her. Are you a bit sick of her being with you all day every day? I would be.

I think that you are right that she would benefit from doing a different job in her gap year, even if it’s part time alongside what she is doing for you so she can spread her wings and detach from you a bit. My own dd has her graduate job now but she’s kept her job that she had as a student two evenings as week because she has made friend there and enjoys it.

Overall, I’d be encouraging her to go to university this year.

Princessfluffy · 19/08/2026 05:59

She’s very privileged. That has a huge upside but does also have a downside. I think you need to accept this OP. Life’s not perfect and neither can your kids ever be. Maybe they lack empathy and understanding for others right now. I’m not sure it’s in your gift to change this.

TheVeryAngryBanana · 19/08/2026 05:57

I did a gap year and got a real job, not a dead end one. I got proper useful skilled work experience, which was much more useful than being shouted at by the general public in a shop. I agree that working for a boss that isn't you would be a good idea though!

HarshbutTrue2 · 19/08/2026 05:52

ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:41

The issue is she’s not a lovely young adult she is very very spoilt anything she wants she gets and I am partly to blame for that

Charity work is the answer. I have no idea how you get her to do it though.
Maybe tell her that volunteering at the local homeless centre/ brownies/ hospice/ retirement home would look good on her cv.

user1492757084 · 19/08/2026 05:48

Remind your DD that she is very fortunate to have received the car and ask her often to repay in kindness to her grandparents - gardening, cooking them a cake, taking them out for tea.
Involve your DD with local charities.
Join some together and encourage her to volunteer her time and youthful energy.

She is secure so might have plenty to give to help organise a Walk for Cancer, a raffle and picnic for an endangered bird, a blanket drive for the homeless, The Starlight Foundation. See what is a good fit.

Your DD's image matters to her so help her build a reputation as someone who loves to give to make the World more beautiful.

Missey85 · 19/08/2026 05:39

pilates · 19/08/2026 05:37

I don’t see the merit of working in a supermarket, she is getting relevant work experience. Can I just ask is she working hard at your law firm like all the other employees? My old boss’ son worked at my office and he was the laziest boy ever. He would be surfing the net and doing as little as possible. He also wasn’t good at the job. It caused a lot of resentment in the office as no one is going to complain about the boss’ son.

This was my thinking I'm guessing it's hardly working when it's Family it would be good to work somewhere she's just another employee like everyone else

Missey85 · 19/08/2026 05:37

mynameiscalypso · 18/08/2026 21:37

I’m in my mid-40s and I’ve never had a supermarket/customer service job. I did work experience and had summer jobs in office roles and have worked in a professional environment since I graduated from university. If she’s wanting to be a lawyer, why wouldn’t she be better off getting a year of legal experience?

Im guessing she wants her daughter to work with people that let's face it will probably let her get away with things she wouldn't in someone else's firm working for family has been a bit of a easy ride it sounds and her mum wants her to get real world experience which is sensible

pilates · 19/08/2026 05:37

I don’t see the merit of working in a supermarket, she is getting relevant work experience. Can I just ask is she working hard at your law firm like all the other employees? My old boss’ son worked at my office and he was the laziest boy ever. He would be surfing the net and doing as little as possible. He also wasn’t good at the job. It caused a lot of resentment in the office as no one is going to complain about the boss’ son.

MarthaLovesLaughing · 19/08/2026 05:33

If you want her to experience tougher environments take her to help out at homeless shelters. Go with her and both serve food at these shelters or help in whatever way is needed

Both offer your services for a charity a few hours a week

I dont think working in a supermarket is particularly helpful for her personal growth

But I do think helping others who really need our help, will help her grow. Lead by example

climbintheback · 19/08/2026 05:20

She sounds like she has her head screwed on - she is very lucky leave her be to do the work she obviously enjoys.

clamshell24 · 19/08/2026 05:15

There are vanishingly few customer service jobs. Especially for vacations.