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To resent carrying all of the mental load of catering for DSD's dietary requirements

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orangefoxsoda · 16/08/2026 14:50

This probably sounds awful but hear me out. DSD7 is with us full time for the summer. She lives abroad with her mum and her school dates are different, so she's with us for about another month. DP ex is a different religion to us, DP converted while married to her so is technically the same religion, but doesn't practice.

DSD doesn't eat certain foods while with DP ex for religious reasons. She also doesn't eat certain combinations of foods together. DP ex has always wanted us to stick to these dietary requirements when she's with us, which of course I respect.

DP takes zero responsibility for mealtimes when DSD is here. He will occasionally cook for the kids when she's not here, but when she is he expects me to take on the mental load of planning things she can eat and our other kids will also eat. DDs are fussy eaters and a lot of the meals they will happily eat are things DSD can't, and aren't easy to adapt without having to make two separate meals. DSD is very overweight currently so I don't want to just put a ready meal in front of her, which DP would do most nights if I didn't cook.

AIBU to want him to take more responsibility? He has actually followed this diet so has a better idea of what to feed her than I do anyway.

OP posts:
WoollyandSarah · 17/08/2026 00:14

OakleyAnnie · 17/08/2026 00:04

Would you give this deeply unpleasant advice if the child had Muslim dietary requirements or are you just reserving your disdain for Jews?

Honestly so many comments on this thread that are so dismissive of Judaism. Wonder why?

I think it's a combination of the extent of the requirements, whilst not actually following all of them. Muslim dietary requirements don't seem as onerous. But I think there would be huge sympathy if the OP was trying to cater a Jain diet for weeks on end. That looks even harder.

OakleyAnnie · 17/08/2026 00:11

MerryUmberHedgehog · 16/08/2026 20:14

If she is overweight WTF is she actually eating as part of this religious diet then?

Because no non Jewish child is ever over weight so it must be the kosher diet. Damn those pesky Jews with their bagels and lokshen pudding

OakleyAnnie · 17/08/2026 00:04

Helpwithdivorce · 16/08/2026 17:25

I’d just feed her what I was cooking for everyone else and if she can’t or won’t eat it then the husband can make her something else. Or she can have toast.
if she goes home crying to mummy that she was given things that she shouldn’t eat I’d just tell her oh well we aren’t Jewish here so we don’t follow that diet.
Honestly I wouldn’t even be doing childcare for her. If your husband wants his child to stay for a full month he takes the time off work and sorts her meals out. It’s not your responsibility

Would you give this deeply unpleasant advice if the child had Muslim dietary requirements or are you just reserving your disdain for Jews?

Honestly so many comments on this thread that are so dismissive of Judaism. Wonder why?

OakleyAnnie · 16/08/2026 23:58

orangefoxsoda · 16/08/2026 16:13

Not orthodox no (thankfully). We have in the past been asked to try to keep shabbat for her when she's with us but it was a nightmare around our other kids. DP will take her to synagogue on certain days by ex's request but not every week.

DS and DDs will eat things like carbonara, lasagne, pasta with cheese sauce and a meat but will complain if given without meat. Chicken Kyivs, chicken/steak pie, sausage pasta. DS generally will kick up a fuss if there's no meat, DDs are more likely to eat creamy pasta sauces. They are really fussy about curries, rice etc.

DSD has to wait 6 hours after eating meat to then eat dairy, so it's not just the actual main meals. You also have to plan that if she's had sandwich meat for lunch she then can't have a veggie meal if it's got dairy in it. Unless we go full vegan, but then realistically it's tomato pasta with cheese for everyone else, and she's upset she can't have the cheese.

If she has to wait six hours after meat before eating dairy then she is pretty orthodox and presumably you’re getting all of your meat from a kosher butcher? With these rules I’m surprised her mother is allowing her to eat in your house at all. Your best bet is to serve dairy and fish meals, tinned tuna, fresh fish, eggs, and avoid meat entirely. No reason why you can’t serve meat, potatoes and veg to your children and give her a portion of tuna instead of the meat. Or serve ham salad but give her eggs instead. Or buy tofu and corn for her.

Absolutely agree with other PP that her father should be stepping up and taking charge of this though

Excited101 · 16/08/2026 23:53

Im permanently astonished that people choose to live by such crazy rules for absolutely no real reason. What on earth is the benefit to all the restrictions?!

op, delegate to DH, he chose to become Jewish, marry someone Jewish and bring a child up Jewish… this is not your problem!

likelysuspect · 16/08/2026 23:52

orangefoxsoda · 16/08/2026 16:46

Judaism passes down the mother's line, so if your mum is Jewish you are Jewish.

DSD won't want to eat cheese if we offer it to her and she understands she can't. She will just be annoyed the other kids are getting to have it. But they won't eat veggie pasta without cheese. We have tried vegan cheese, no one likes it.

DP works long hours and says he doesn't have the time and energy to think about it. I also work but am part time and mostly WFH, and tend to do most admin things with the kids. I totally agree the answer is he steps up but I know from experience he won't.

I think I would be going on holiday for the entire time she is there. Let him manage her care.

WoollyandSarah · 16/08/2026 23:41

AtlasCedar · 16/08/2026 23:38

So I’m guessing it’s no milk and meat, no pork and no shellfish?

Just chuck it all into AI and the foods your kids like and see what it suggests as meals. Outsource to Chat GPT.

It sounds more like the time between milk and meat is a problem.

shineyshoess · 16/08/2026 23:41

orangefoxsoda · 16/08/2026 23:15

DP was not Jewish by the time I married him. He converted before he got married to ex and stopped practicing when he moved out.

you still married him knowing he had a stepdaughter and that you needed to make sure, as a family, her needs weren't sidelined. You also had a child of your own who needed to be cared for. You both then went on and had two more children so of course mealtimes will be tricky. I don't know what you expected! If you are the one working part time then of course most of the sorting of meals and shops will fall to you

AtlasCedar · 16/08/2026 23:38

So I’m guessing it’s no milk and meat, no pork and no shellfish?

Just chuck it all into AI and the foods your kids like and see what it suggests as meals. Outsource to Chat GPT.

orangefoxsoda · 16/08/2026 23:15

DP was not Jewish by the time I married him. He converted before he got married to ex and stopped practicing when he moved out.

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Attenboroughsmistress · 16/08/2026 23:13

Sulgari · 16/08/2026 17:40

Surely if you choose to be with a partner who is Jewish and has a Jewish child you should be willing to accommodate the dietary requirements?

Some of the comments here are awful, like its pandering to a fad, and suggesting 7 year old should be made to feel like an outcast at mealtimes

Totally agree! It also seems like such a non-issue, if your life set up is such that you are normally cooking household meals, and you have an extra 7 year old and need to do some very basic level dietary requirements (not even full kosher) then I really don’t see why it’s hard at all - seems relatively easy to sit down and plan out 7 days worth of meals that suit and then repeat the plan each week.

If on the other hand OP is actually just unhappy with the general arrangement of her being responsible for meal times, then that’s reasonable of her and something to address with her DH.

But I don’t see how this diet issue makes much of a difference.

orangefoxsoda · 16/08/2026 23:08

I can't get onboard with not respecting her mum's wishes. I'm sorry but I can't. It's no different than Muslims not eating pork but not following other parts of Sharia law. I'm already trying to cut down on snacks with her because she's overweight and her mum isn't doing anything about it. That's hard enough, singling her out as the one having beans on toast while everyone else is having a different meal isn't fair on her.

She is definitely old enough to understand and make an informed choice. Which she is doing. We have given her things like bacon in the past when she was younger and less aware, she won't let us do that now.

I like the batch cooking idea. Ideally if DP helps with it, but I'm not holding my breath.

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EvieBB · 16/08/2026 22:42

Iwascupbearertotheking · 16/08/2026 21:56

Exodus 23:19

All crazy nonsense

EvieBB · 16/08/2026 22:41

This is why religions are ridiculous nonsense!! The child isn't even old enough to make an informed choice as to whether she wants to follow these rules - they have been unfairly imposed on her 😬

BeAzureRaven · 16/08/2026 22:23

Mumtotornadoes · 16/08/2026 14:59

I actually don't think I'd be willing to do this. 7yo doesn't actually follow any religion does she, she's 7, you're catering to her mum's dietary restrictions.

I think I'd just feed her, it's not an allergy it's a choice her mum is making for her, I don't think her dad (or you by extension) is required to follow it.

And if he does insist it needs following them he needs to be in charge of it.

THIS!!

Iwascupbearertotheking · 16/08/2026 21:56

saveforthat · 16/08/2026 21:46

I honestly didn't know that Jews cannot eat meat and dairy at the same time. Why?

Exodus 23:19

saveforthat · 16/08/2026 21:46

I honestly didn't know that Jews cannot eat meat and dairy at the same time. Why?

BlackRowan · 16/08/2026 21:41

she doesn’t get to get upset that others are having cheese, that’s ridiculous, now she’s effectively pushing her choice on the rest of the family. Just no.

Victorius19 · 16/08/2026 21:30

I think your friend here may be batch cooking. Things that your DC and yourself will eat so then you're only cooking each meal time for DSD.

I remember your other thread OP about her weight, and it seems very unfair that her Dad isn't helping you here. I think it may be time to read him the riot act over it all, personally. She's only here for the summer and he needs to make the most of that time with her. That could involve cooking together.

WoollyandSarah · 16/08/2026 21:16

LatteLady · 16/08/2026 21:06

Can I suggest that you get a book by one of my favourite cooks, Claudia Rosen's The book of Jewish Food. Her writing style and content is brilliant, I first discovered her as an Egyptian cook whose books were sold in the 70s & 80s by the tills in Sainsburys... this book is a treasure and will probably satisfy everyone and make them more adventurous in their eating.

Not convinced that buying a new cookbook and making unfamiliar recipes is really going to make things easier for the OP.

LatteLady · 16/08/2026 21:06

Can I suggest that you get a book by one of my favourite cooks, Claudia Rosen's The book of Jewish Food. Her writing style and content is brilliant, I first discovered her as an Egyptian cook whose books were sold in the 70s & 80s by the tills in Sainsburys... this book is a treasure and will probably satisfy everyone and make them more adventurous in their eating.

Badsox · 16/08/2026 20:55

In Jewish law, a child of seven is not personally obliged to keep Kosher. It is the responsibility of her parents to guide her. You are doing your best and are not her parent, so this falls to her father. If he chooses to allow her not to be as observant in your household, that is up to him. It makes her no less Jewish.

ErroltheSwampDragon · 16/08/2026 20:54

metellaestinatrio · 16/08/2026 20:39

Quite! The level of intolerance for the religious dietary requirements of a seven year old who is spending the whole holidays away from her mother (“she should just eat toast”) sits in stark contrast to the expectations of flexibility to cater for kids who are just fussy. I should say, I don’t mean the OP, who is trying her best to cater for everyone, but many of the other posters here.

Agreed. She's seven and we've had posters fat-shame, say the OP shouldn't feed her, only feed her beans on toast, or only cook food she can't eat. Not to mention denying her religion and calling it a fad. I hope none of these posters ever treat a child like this in real life.

Plenty of sensible suggestions for the OP to take on board. DP should step up, but otherwise I'd just figure out a few days worth of meals that work and rotate till you get to the end of her stay and then set rules with DP before she comes to stay again.

Millytante · 16/08/2026 20:51

I dunno; if DEx isn’t fussed about the child’s food being prepared in a kosher kitchen, why does she care about other ‘slippages’ when said child is out of her jurisdiction, such as cheese eaten within x number of hours of consuming a steak (during the month of August but while wearing a head covering)?

What I mean is: either be strict and take your rules seriously, or ditch the whole shebang.
OR take the third way, and be reasonable, and allow the child to eat with her father’s new family without insisting that she be served a quite separate menu carefully scrutinised for dietary transgressions.
I’d think the girl’s mum’s unbothered attitude to the ‘impure’ kitchen is a hint that her heart isn’t really in this proscriptive business anyway.

A 7-year old child will hardly offend a benevolent deity if she abandons a religious dietary imposition in order not to cause bother to her fraught step-mother.
If her dad can’t be arsed to ensure she remains in every way a proper Jewish child with every bite, he might at least be willing to explain to her why she can indeed have a cheeseburger in this house, but not at her mum’s.
(Which is: so as not to cause extra work to her nice stepmother, who is not Jewish. The child should be able to grasp this at 7)

metellaestinatrio · 16/08/2026 20:39

Sulgari · 16/08/2026 17:40

Surely if you choose to be with a partner who is Jewish and has a Jewish child you should be willing to accommodate the dietary requirements?

Some of the comments here are awful, like its pandering to a fad, and suggesting 7 year old should be made to feel like an outcast at mealtimes

Quite! The level of intolerance for the religious dietary requirements of a seven year old who is spending the whole holidays away from her mother (“she should just eat toast”) sits in stark contrast to the expectations of flexibility to cater for kids who are just fussy. I should say, I don’t mean the OP, who is trying her best to cater for everyone, but many of the other posters here.