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Aibu to be hurt?

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notpartofthefamily · 15/08/2026 21:23

Dp and I have been together 7 years, we have 1 DS together and dp has dss who also lives with us.

A couple months ago fil mentioned doing a big family holiday, dp said sounds good let us know details. I get on great with ils so i was also fine with it. Dps brother got in touch to arrange booking. It seems I’m not invited. It’s fil, mil, dp sil (dh sister) and bil (dh brother) plus dss and DS. Dp asked why and apparently bil was awkward and said something about mil and fil wanting it to be just family!!
Dp has said he doesn’t feel comfortable talking to fil about it. It seems he’s going and taking ds, dss.

Im so upset, it’s never occurred to me im not family. I spend lots of time with fil and mil , attend family events etc. I’ve been in their lives 7 years!
Dp thinks I need to let it go but aibu to be upset?

OP posts:
notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:44

Itwasallyellow2 · 16/08/2026 07:42

Has there ever been any indication that they see themselves as different to you? Do they include you in other events such as family birthdays etc?

Upto now I’ve always been included and mostly attended things. This is the first family holiday though

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JenRummy · 16/08/2026 07:43

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:31

Thank you I agree it’s like I am lesser due to not being related.

Awful way to make anyone feel OP.

Also as someone said their logic is skewed. Looks like they view your family as an extension of their family (minus you) and not as your own family unit.

I’d expect you’ve likely also been behind birthday, christmas, mother and father’s day gifts, cards and efforts. That can be another load off your shoulders. Even cards from kids, tell DP your circus 🎪 from now on.

It comes across like you’re not as keen on or close to your own family OP. I could have picked that up wrong?

Just wondering what elements of their family dynamic did you enjoy? That’s what you can replicate with your own but any way you can see your own clan more?

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:43

Notquitethetruth · 16/08/2026 07:41

His version of love comes with boundaries as he is allowing his parents and siblings to put you in 'other' category.
'we are a family ' but you are not. You see your family as a unit but clearly your DP and the rest of them do not. They are deliberately excluding you, arranged this holiday without giving you a thought, presented it as a fait accompli, and your DP after initial push back is going along with it. That is not family.
My primary concern would be the effect on and the message it sends to your young impressionable 4 year old. His grandparents, uncle, aunt, his brother and his Dad are all going on holiday together and leaving Mum at home as she is not family. They are quite happy for her to be excluded and left at home.
It's cruel and disrespectful to you and it should have you re-evaluating your relationship with them, setting new boundaries and pulling right back. Yes, as your DPs siblings develop new relationships they may change their attitudes but meanwhile there is a young little boy along with his brother being shown that their mother/stepmother doesn't matter.

But should they have to have a relationship with me ? Am I forcing it?

OP posts:
Tooupset · 16/08/2026 07:42

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:39

Yes if I put my foot down and say DS can’t go am I denying him time with his extended family(and dp and dss) will he resent me for it.

And that’s what makes it clear that you have a DP problem

Itwasallyellow2 · 16/08/2026 07:42

Has there ever been any indication that they see themselves as different to you? Do they include you in other events such as family birthdays etc?

itsgettingweird · 16/08/2026 07:41

So your raising their first grandchild.

Biological mum to their second.

Yet you’re not family.

Yeah fuck that. DP needs to step and and speak out.

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:41

Wadsworthy · 16/08/2026 07:40

Are your partner’s siblings’ partners invited?

They don’t have partners

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Notquitethetruth · 16/08/2026 07:41

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 05:05

He definitely loves me we are a family.

His version of love comes with boundaries as he is allowing his parents and siblings to put you in 'other' category.
'we are a family ' but you are not. You see your family as a unit but clearly your DP and the rest of them do not. They are deliberately excluding you, arranged this holiday without giving you a thought, presented it as a fait accompli, and your DP after initial push back is going along with it. That is not family.
My primary concern would be the effect on and the message it sends to your young impressionable 4 year old. His grandparents, uncle, aunt, his brother and his Dad are all going on holiday together and leaving Mum at home as she is not family. They are quite happy for her to be excluded and left at home.
It's cruel and disrespectful to you and it should have you re-evaluating your relationship with them, setting new boundaries and pulling right back. Yes, as your DPs siblings develop new relationships they may change their attitudes but meanwhile there is a young little boy along with his brother being shown that their mother/stepmother doesn't matter.

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:40

Coronaperona · 16/08/2026 07:39

Do the family ever have meet ups of just siblings and grandchildren with no partners?

There’s times I haven’t gone (work/illness /busy) but it’s the first time I’ve been excluded

OP posts:
Wadsworthy · 16/08/2026 07:40

Are your partner’s siblings’ partners invited?

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:39

AtlasPine · 16/08/2026 06:56

Agreed. And I would tell them that, succinctly and calmly. Then withdraw because, like the OP, I wouldn’t want to go where I wasn’t wanted.

I would never ban my partner from taking his son though. That’s a step too far and using the child to make a point.

Yes if I put my foot down and say DS can’t go am I denying him time with his extended family(and dp and dss) will he resent me for it.

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Coronaperona · 16/08/2026 07:39

Do the family ever have meet ups of just siblings and grandchildren with no partners?

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:36

JenRummy · 16/08/2026 06:56

How did the relationship end between DP and DSS mother? Any reason from then?

Could be you hit the nail on the head OP when you said maybe I’m wanting a relationship that isn’t there.

You say you’ve visited almost as much as DP for family gatherings, only now it seems they viewed them as family gatherings + you.

If DP can’t or won’t speak to in laws, would he at least speak to BIL? Ask who decided? BIL pushing or PILs or all of them? Fact BIL went awkward means there’s more to it.

It is about more than a holiday. How do you navigate the relationship going forward? I’d have to take a step back, let DP take kids round and for events reiterate you’re not family so don’t want to impose.

Ending due to growing apart no big fall out and get on fine now.

Dps ex doesn’t see them now but I don’t think anyone is particularly bothered by that. Their relationship with their grandson is facilitated through dp.

Yes that’s exactly how it feels, it’s family + me.

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Itwasallyellow2 · 16/08/2026 07:31

For the sake of adding one person to the holiday (you), you should be included.

To take your son away without you is wrong.

If it were a case of all siblings having short term partners then I might understand a bit better why they would do a blanket ban on partners but not in these circumstances.

If I were you I would use the time to go away myself either on my own or with a friend.

notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:31

CoffeeBotherer · 16/08/2026 07:19

"If it can’t be sorted, I certainly wouldn’t allow my son to be conditioned in this way to understand that his mum is so far less valued a family member that she isn’t good enough to be invited. It’s too psychologically messy for him, given you are still supposed to be in a relationship with his dad, and given that you are disappointed by the exclusion."

I found this paragraph very insightful. Kids see everything. They don't fully understand the nuance, but they take feelings about what's happened away with them. (Think how a dog understands human cues better than most humans). This will be so odd for him to be in a group from which you've been ostracized, and it'll stick with him.

I'm also wondering how your partner is going to explain it to him when he's asked, I'm sure he's not going to tell the truth.

Thank you I agree it’s like I am lesser due to not being related.

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notpartofthefamily · 16/08/2026 07:29

Litehartstuth · 16/08/2026 07:26

So you're married apparently =not part of the family. That means you can't holiday with them

Mil and fin are married so does that mean one of them are not family? So according to their own logic one of them should stay home .

Mil and fil are married

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Litehartstuth · 16/08/2026 07:26

So you're married apparently =not part of the family. That means you can't holiday with them

Mil and fin are married so does that mean one of them are not family? So according to their own logic one of them should stay home .

CoffeeBotherer · 16/08/2026 07:19

LAMPS1 · 16/08/2026 06:36

It’s the enduring impact of their exclusion that is the problem here.

None of them appear to have thought through the consequences and lasting impressions on you and your son…even on your partner who is so immature that he doesn't find it difficult to allow them to downgrade his relationship with you to much, much less than you thought it was.
More fool him for being spineless.
Your exclusion by his family highlights his passive ignorance.

Unless he (or the forgiving you) can quickly persuade them of their ill judged decision, then I think the lasting damage to your relationship will very quickly render it irreparable.

The only hope you have, is to discover, when talking this through with them (if you partner won’t), that it’s bossy BIL who is driving your exclusion, not them.

If it can’t be sorted, I certainly wouldn’t allow my son to be conditioned in this way to understand that his mum is so far less valued a family member that she isn’t good enough to be invited. It’s too psychologically messy for him, given you are still supposed to be in a relationship with his dad, and given that you are disappointed by the exclusion.

Your partner is an absolute idiot if he thinks he can take his sons away on a family holiday and continue to retain you as a loving partner when the damage has already been done.

"If it can’t be sorted, I certainly wouldn’t allow my son to be conditioned in this way to understand that his mum is so far less valued a family member that she isn’t good enough to be invited. It’s too psychologically messy for him, given you are still supposed to be in a relationship with his dad, and given that you are disappointed by the exclusion."

I found this paragraph very insightful. Kids see everything. They don't fully understand the nuance, but they take feelings about what's happened away with them. (Think how a dog understands human cues better than most humans). This will be so odd for him to be in a group from which you've been ostracized, and it'll stick with him.

I'm also wondering how your partner is going to explain it to him when he's asked, I'm sure he's not going to tell the truth.

TheBlueKoala · 16/08/2026 07:17

@notpartofthefamily My Mil would never do this but more importantly my dh wouldn't allow it. What's wrong with all of them? I couldn't get over such a hurtful rejection.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 16/08/2026 07:16

JenRummy · 16/08/2026 07:11

I think oP should pop round on her own and find out.

That is way too embarrassing and gives them more ammo.

If they’d of wanted to give an explanation they would have. Any put on spot conversation makes OP look pushy and desperate and they’re unlikely to give the real reason anyways.

A private conversation will give OP info to decide the nature and tone of the relationship going forward. And might even give some closure rather than the uncertainty of not knowing.

JenRummy · 16/08/2026 07:11

I think oP should pop round on her own and find out.

That is way too embarrassing and gives them more ammo.

If they’d of wanted to give an explanation they would have. Any put on spot conversation makes OP look pushy and desperate and they’re unlikely to give the real reason anyways.

EvieBB · 16/08/2026 07:09

JenRummy · 16/08/2026 06:56

How did the relationship end between DP and DSS mother? Any reason from then?

Could be you hit the nail on the head OP when you said maybe I’m wanting a relationship that isn’t there.

You say you’ve visited almost as much as DP for family gatherings, only now it seems they viewed them as family gatherings + you.

If DP can’t or won’t speak to in laws, would he at least speak to BIL? Ask who decided? BIL pushing or PILs or all of them? Fact BIL went awkward means there’s more to it.

It is about more than a holiday. How do you navigate the relationship going forward? I’d have to take a step back, let DP take kids round and for events reiterate you’re not family so don’t want to impose.

Yes I'd be so hurt I'd be taking a step back from all events...I couldn't be somewhere where I know I'm not truly wanted....and when they asked where I wasn't there I'd make sure, like you said, that I'm not family so wouldn't want to impose!

socialdilemmawhattodo · 16/08/2026 07:04

Gooseling · 16/08/2026 06:19

I’m sorry but your first paragraph is such a load of waffle.

There is absolutely no excuse for OP to be excluded.

No it wasn't. It's exactly what i had been thinking reading the thread. PILs had got close to Ss's mum, and perhaps just dont want to go there again. Perhaps they know their son is unreliable/flaky and they can't see this relationship lasting. Maybe they're just really horrible, but nothing OP has said so far indicates that. So there will be a reason. I think oP should pop round on her own and find out.

EvieBB · 16/08/2026 07:00

notpartofthefamily · 15/08/2026 21:48

No we are great. I think he doesn’t really see the issue because technically they are right I’m not related to them.

Sorry, but you're not as great as you think. A supportive and loving partner would not in any way think that this is acceptable! Blood relation or not, you should be classed as family and your partner should have your back and call this out for what it is - bullying! They are excluding you - which is a form of bullying. If your partner can't see this or call this behaviour out, then he's out of order.

Foodieasfuck · 16/08/2026 07:00

Wow! I just cannot imagine inviting my son and grandchildren and not my DIl. No wonder you are so hurt. Sadly, it will change the relationship you have with them going forward and they only have their insensitivity to blame!

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