Who is actually “for” Meta glasses (“pervert glasses”)?

They dont need video recording capability for that.

Not really. The phone has to be somewhere it can see you, therefore you will be able to see the phone. Are you really that gullable?

They already did. Covering the light. Removing it etc.

Meta had to install an update so the glasses can't record with the light removed. Dunno if they can do that with it just being covered.

I went to the opticians 2 weeks ago to choose my new glasses. The assistant (f) was showing/gushing about her black, thick rimmed, meta ones and was trying to convince me. I said why would I want them, she said "you can film with them" 😮
Why? Jist why???

Sorry this is off topic but I’m too curious. I’m not a dog walker admittedly but I have three dogs in my household, and walk and additional two, every day so I often get mistaken for one. The dogs range from tiny and cute to big and ‘scary’ (and I must look ridiculous) but every interaction with the public is always pleasant. I don’t live in a naice area or anything. Occasionally an off lead dog will run up to greet us but as none of mine are reactive and Cujo isn’t roaming about it’s always fine.

How many issues are you having with the public to have to consider filming it?!

I'm interested in them to help with my hearing impairment.

I’ve had a pair for over a year now and I love them (and am definitely not a pervert!) they are prescription and transition lenses and I mostly use them to listen to music on when out for a walk / run. I also love making hands free calls. I do take photos / videos which I would do normally on a phone anyway (like everyone else) and you can’t cover up the lens to stop people seeing the light as the glasses won’t let you film / take photos.

These are an extraordinary breakthrough for blind people. I didn’t even know about the filming option, only that my father who has recently lost his sight, just got some and it could potentially open up whole new avenues for independence. I’d suggest removing the filming option before throwing out the baby with the bath water. My father is simply excited about the possibility of being able to read letters and labels in his cupboards without assistance.

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A visually impaired friend has a pair, she can now do so much more independently like shopping etc, it also means if there is an issue on public transport etc its easier than trying to use her phone, especially in a normal environment to find a member of staff, or just additional travel information. It also helps her at work as she finds it works better than her screen reader to identify what she needs etc.

New journeys are much easier as her glassee can see when its genuinely time to turn left, rather than her phone telling her to turn now when in reality it can be a good 10-20m too early.

I mean, why do we make guns and zombie knives illegal? They’ll be handy for skiing too. Just imagine how fast you’ll move to the front of the lift queue!

I see no reason why a fine person such as yourself should go without just because of a few crims.

Bravo!

Can you ‘accidentally’ step on them one day? Oops!

DH and I both have a pair. They’ve come in really handy for taking pictures while out biking/skating with no phone, we both use them to watch things or listen to audiobooks while doing other tasks. I can see how they could be misused but then again you can also buy tiny remote control cameras people wouldn’t notice so what is the difference.

CCTV is regulated.

What is happening to young women with Meta glasses-wearers is not happening with CCTV.

They would be amazing for joggers too. I was bitten by a dog whilst jogging earlier this year. I have had dogs jump on me. Just being barked at by an off lead large dog is scary.

@ISpyNoPlumPie you have to activate the recording function, it’s easy to use the glasses without recording being on.

We are being filmed all the time. CCTV is everywhere.

Yes this is exactly the issue - the aim is to normalise constant filming without consent.

The footage is all sent to Meta who then own it.

I think the bit I'm uncomfortable with is that you can't consent to whether or not you're being filmed in someone's background. We've got CCTV at work and have had to put visible signs up warning people that they are being filmed, yet these glasses allow people to film anywhere, anytime and any way they want to.

Question from an uninformed person - do they need to record to be useful/functional or do they just need to “see”? I’m assuming there is a difference between these two types of functions in terms of keeping and sharing footage but I don’t have a clue.

In some countries people do.

It's a complicated trade off between right to document (due to democratic importance) and right to privacy, but being able to film people without them being aware (except for law enforcement or journalism) is unacceptable IMO, and I'm not alone in that.

My view is we should have a right not to be covertly filmed. These glasses are intended to break down that boundary.

(ETA 'or journalism' above)

Yes, we do. Our laws just don't recognise it. And we definitely should have the right to not be recorded in public. That has nothing to do with privacy from other eyes, which cannot be helped.

Stage 1 - light. Stage 2 - no light. Get everyone used to them. Then add a feature that lets you stealth record. They're terrible and I hope people see them for what they are.

There are already documented cases of this - one where a creepy fuck was stopping attractive women on the pretext of asking for directions and filming their faces and bodies to upload to a site where his fellow creepy fucks (and there were plenty of them) could critique them, accompanied by the usual disgusting, rapey, degrading and misogynistic comments.

One of the women was tipped off that she was on there, but she had to battle with him (and I believe whichever platform he was using) to have the footage taken down, as it had been obtained entirely without her consent.

Every single development in almost any field will immediately be put to a sexualised and/or perverted use by men. Without fail.

Regardless of what positive use these things can be put to, until Meta give enough shits make the product tamper-proof, so that filming covertly becomes impossible (which they never will unless it starts to cost them money and bad PR, because they give precisely zero fucks about the safety and privacy of women or children), nothing can be done to prevent this. It’s quite simply the nature of predatory men and the way they poison the world around us.

Brilliant idea - film the yoofs in the bus station smoking weed and then send the clips to their schools.