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WIBU to call out a man for using ladies loo?

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BlueBayBic · 15/08/2026 13:09

Yesterday in a motorway service station, a man used the ladies’ disabled/baby change loo. This was through the entryway to the ladies, but off to the right and separate to the main area of toilets on the left. I saw a lady with 2 young children try to challenge him as he went in, but he ignored her. When he came out, I asked why he had used the ladies - to which he (very red in the face) argued that it was separate and he didn’t go into the ladies. He definitely did! Another lady who witnessed this then went and checked and said to me that the toilet is separate, however this doesn’t excuse a man going past the ladies sign and into the designated ladies area. There was a separate, clearly signposted, male disabled/baby change behind the male toilets entryway. WIBU?

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Frlrlrubert · 16/08/2026 18:09

I know the set up you mean, we were in a services years ago where both ‘sides’ had disabled loos but only the ladies side had a baby change.

I emailed to say that it was unacceptable for men with babies to be expected to go on the ladies side to use the baby change and the response was that the baby change was not ‘in’ the ladies but adjacent. It was two corridors with colour coded lighting heading for each loo with the disabled/baby change about half way to the loos. To us, the whole yellow lit corridor was fairly obviously ‘the ladies’ with the blue lit corridor being ‘the mens’ but apparently not according to the company.

BlueBayBic · 16/08/2026 09:06

It was a service station on the M4 eastbound, I don’t know which one 🤷‍♀️ I don’t know why it’s so hard to believe that there are sex-separated disabled/baby change facilities.

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NotAnotherScarf · 15/08/2026 21:20

luckylavender · 15/08/2026 18:19

You’re a mind reader?

No male and have met a lot of sick fucks who appeared completely normal until they opened up.... needless to say a couple got a smack

StylesSluttyShorts · 15/08/2026 20:34

Brood · 15/08/2026 20:00

I think it’s disgusting, creepy and a boundary violation that any man would do this. Isn’t that illegal? Even if it is a single occupancy toilet, women can’t hold as long as men and there’s no excuse for taking a facility that was designated for female use. Men can also pee standing up so they are at an advantage when it comes to being able to relieve themselves. Not that women should need an excuse. No means no. Simple as

Good men stay out so bad men stand out.
Only predatory men enter women's spaces.

WhistPie · 15/08/2026 20:18

Have you people never been into a motorway service station?! This is a pretty standard arrangement in all the modern ones - both the men's and women's toilets have a disabled/baby changing cubicle

Sirzy · 15/08/2026 20:11

What did the actual sign on the door say?

it sounds to me like it was a disabled cubicle at the end of the corridor past the ladies toilets rather than actually being part of the ladies toilets. Badly designed maybe but as anyone who needs to use disabled toilets knows that’s par for the course!

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 15/08/2026 20:05

Brood · 15/08/2026 20:00

I think it’s disgusting, creepy and a boundary violation that any man would do this. Isn’t that illegal? Even if it is a single occupancy toilet, women can’t hold as long as men and there’s no excuse for taking a facility that was designated for female use. Men can also pee standing up so they are at an advantage when it comes to being able to relieve themselves. Not that women should need an excuse. No means no. Simple as

Toilets aren't just for urinating though so the stand up explanation is void.

Brood · 15/08/2026 20:00

I think it’s disgusting, creepy and a boundary violation that any man would do this. Isn’t that illegal? Even if it is a single occupancy toilet, women can’t hold as long as men and there’s no excuse for taking a facility that was designated for female use. Men can also pee standing up so they are at an advantage when it comes to being able to relieve themselves. Not that women should need an excuse. No means no. Simple as

emuloc · 15/08/2026 20:00

Weegielassie · 15/08/2026 19:52

Why should he have to explain himself?

He should not have to. There are only disabled toilets in the UK. Not sex specific ones, unless, of course the OP is posting from another Country.

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2026 19:57

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 15/08/2026 17:39

Women often pop into the gents at busy venues (theatres etc) and use a cubicle to save queuing for the ladies. Seen it many times!

The reason for that, however, is the lack of equitable provision that could be assured through something similar to America's quarter of a century old "potty parity" laws. If you think this is a gotcha, it's a really bad one.

Weegielassie · 15/08/2026 19:52

BlueBayBic · 15/08/2026 18:23

I get that perhaps he wasn’t being a pervert … but I don’t see what reasonable excuse he could have had
to use the toilet he chose to use. Not sure why so many people are defending this bizarre-at-best behaviour. As others have said, if he had a genuine reason then surely he would have been apologetic and acknowledge the woman who challenged him as he went in?

It could have easily been his first jaunt into voyeurism and wanted to test the water, see what he could get away with in public … pure speculation, of course, but that seems much more likely than someone so desperate for the loo they couldn’t walk the extra few steps to the men’s.

I honestly don’t believe he was a trans man/woman (not sure of terminology)… he appeared male in every sense of the word.

Why should he have to explain himself?

Lmnop22 · 15/08/2026 19:52

BlueBayBic · 15/08/2026 18:23

I get that perhaps he wasn’t being a pervert … but I don’t see what reasonable excuse he could have had
to use the toilet he chose to use. Not sure why so many people are defending this bizarre-at-best behaviour. As others have said, if he had a genuine reason then surely he would have been apologetic and acknowledge the woman who challenged him as he went in?

It could have easily been his first jaunt into voyeurism and wanted to test the water, see what he could get away with in public … pure speculation, of course, but that seems much more likely than someone so desperate for the loo they couldn’t walk the extra few steps to the men’s.

I honestly don’t believe he was a trans man/woman (not sure of terminology)… he appeared male in every sense of the word.

Jeez, maybe he just saw the sign for the disabled loo and assumed it was positioned just past the Ladies sign but was actually for everyone’s use?

Given the total lack of voyeuristic behaviour, is that not more likely than a perverts first attempt at voyeurism??

Why so quick to judge someone who may well have a hidden disability and/or making a mistake when finding the disabled loo - it sounds like an odd set up to have a differentiated gender specific disabled and baby change so he could have just not appreciated there was another one on the Men’s side!

emuloc · 15/08/2026 19:51

Spiffingdarling88 · 15/08/2026 19:46

So he wasnt using the ladies but the disabled loo? You were rude and unreasonable and I hope he hasn't been affected by your unreasonable behaviour.

My son is abit oblivious and would see just the disabled sign.

Why you think he should of apologised is beyond me.

He was using the disabled toilet. I don't know where these toilets are, with such a set up as the OP describes. I have never seen it. Maybe the OP would enlighten us all! Otherwise I think it is just another thread to get people frothing, as usual.

Weegielassie · 15/08/2026 19:49

NotAnotherScarf · 15/08/2026 17:53

But he was walking.... past the ladies sign. So if he can walk without mobility aids (op would have mentioned them) then he could walk into the mens cubicles

Just because someone is walking doesn’t mean they’re not disabled and could wait if the male disabled toilets were occupied.

WildGarlicSoup · 15/08/2026 19:49

Not something I’d dwell on. Not sure how you could ‘call him out’ now or why you’d wish to.

He didn’t have to walk past any females. We don’t know if perhaps the mens were full and he was desperate or unwell. Sometimes when you gotta go, you gotta go.

Honestly, just forget about it!

Spiffingdarling88 · 15/08/2026 19:46

So he wasnt using the ladies but the disabled loo? You were rude and unreasonable and I hope he hasn't been affected by your unreasonable behaviour.

My son is abit oblivious and would see just the disabled sign.

Why you think he should of apologised is beyond me.

SwanRivers · 15/08/2026 19:44

Very unusual to have separate male and female disabled/baby change toilets.

But since they're completely separate with floor to ceiling walls and a lockable door, I couldn't get aeriated about it.

Great idea for a Mumsnet thread though OP.

I expect tomorrow will be 'AIBU to hate dogs jumping up at me in the park'.

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 15/08/2026 19:43

The sooner we get individual cubicles with wash basins the better.
I frequently go to the theatre and recently have seen trans women in the queue - I didn't feel threatened or uncomfortable and I was with my young teenage daughter.
At least urinals in this country are often deep into the gents - the french ones are very open and you can often see men standing there having a pee.

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 15/08/2026 19:42

Where are these toilets?

emuloc · 15/08/2026 19:37

ScholesPanda · 15/08/2026 17:31

I'm really struggling to picture the set-up here so I can't really say.

Someone checked and was told by the staff that the disabled loo was separate to the ladies? So if he'd asked staff for the disabled they'd have directed him there?

What is the ladies 'area'- like a vestibule before you got into the ladies or actually in the ladies where the sinks are?

I don't want men in the women's toilets at all, but this sounds like a weird design.

I have never seen a disabled toilet only for each sex to use. Just disabled toilets, full stop. I would like to know exactly where this strange set up was. I won't be holding my breath though.

Dobeebeedah · 15/08/2026 19:37

He was putting all us "Ladies" in our place! It was a deliberate act to say Women don't have any right to privacy and his needs come before ours!

MCP

DriveVerySlowlyPastNumber23IWantThemToSeeMyHat · 15/08/2026 19:32

If I'm desperate and there's a huge queue for the ladies, I go into the mens.

Its either that or wet myself.

StylesSluttyShorts · 15/08/2026 19:28

You weren't wrong, the poll agrees.
Males have no place in female spaces.

YouSawBrigadoon · 15/08/2026 19:25

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 15/08/2026 17:39

Women often pop into the gents at busy venues (theatres etc) and use a cubicle to save queuing for the ladies. Seen it many times!

Exactly. I’d really not care.

User0311 · 15/08/2026 19:20

NannyR · 15/08/2026 14:32

He may have needed to use the loo urgently, maybe had an invisible disability and the gents loos were all busy. If this was the case, no wonder the poor chap was embarassed.

I agree! This is the first thing that came to my mind