Aibu to think 6 years sentence is far too lenient for killing your baby.

Sadly the judgment says the baby likely died of hyperthermia, ie from heat, not hypo, from cold. Hyperthermia and heatstroke. So she died from being heated by the hairdryer, but not from the visible injuries, ie the burns.
Absolutely horrible. I feel very sorry for the jury and legal staff who had to sit through this case, and of course Dahlia-Rose.

I also thought this op, I cannot for the life of me understand such a short sentance, and the judge seemed to try to justify it by saying she’d have to live with it the rest of her life. She killed her baby in an utterly brutal and painful manner, wtf is wrong with the judge,

this sentance needs to be looked at again and increased.

No one who murdered someone is healthy and mentally stable. Doesn’t mean they don’t go to jail for a long time as a punishment.

Here is the sentencing statement from the Judge.

HMA v Courtney Gartshore (judiciary.scot)

As horrible as it is, if the situation was as the previous poster mentioned and she put the hair dryer on and passed out drunk, the charge and sentence makes more sense. Similar to drunk parents who have killed their child by co sleeping when drunk, or leaving them too close to a radiator. Its such a shame no one who saw her out and drunk that night intervened, it seems so easily avoidable in that regard.

Yes, sorry, I re read and the report does say hyperthermia. I got confused as earlier reporting had mentioned people commenting that the child "looked freezing"
I am not sure why she wasn't reported being out and about, obviously intoxicated, with a baby? Or maybe she was?

From the judgement (my bold):

^”The Crown’s expert’s position was that the likely cause of Dahlia Rose’s death was hyperthermia and heatstroke rather than burns.
The defence expert’s position was that Dahlia Rose was likely already dead from another sudden and unexplained cause, before she was subjected to heat from the hairdryer.
The jury clearly and emphatically rejected the defence position. They had no reasonable doubt that it was the heat from the hairdryer which caused Dahlia Rose’s death”^

I'm afraid I've got little sympathy for drug users and think they should be allowed to take as many drugs as they want and with a bit of luck, overdose and die

And how are they paying for all those drugs. Fewer addicts makes society better for everyone, not just the users.

How would you go about policing who was allowed to get pregnant? And how would you stop pregnancy?

She was out partying with her friends and neighbours, with the baby!!! All these people were there and did fuck all to protect this wee baby who's 'mother" was steaming drunk and trying to score drugs.
I hope they all feel some guilt, forever!!

I've though about this! I think when babies are born, they should be fitted with a contraceptive microchip. When they get to a suitable age and have taken intensive parenting classes and are able to demonstrate that they can care appropriately for another human, the chips removed.
Think it will work?

It’s a shame people who treat children like this - for whatever reason and with whatever context - are not required to be sterilised. At the end of the day they are not safe to be around children and the reasons for that don’t matter. The main thing is to prevent them having or coming into contact with any more children.

This sounds like the plot of a dystopian sci fi novel

Unfortunately, she will be allowed to procreate on her relesse, such is the law in this country unfortunately 😞.

If she were to become pregnant she would be monitored during the pregnancy and the baby would almost certainly be removed at birth for adoption or care within her extended family.

Honestly I would be surprised if she makes it that far though, surely she's extremely high risk of suicide. I know prisons have steps in place to try and prevent that but they're not failsafe. She had a history of attempts on her life prior to being a mum, let alone with this.

If she does the full sentence (very rare thing) she will be 34/35. What are the chances she will find someone and get pregnant once she’s released?

Sterilise her or increase her sentence

Completely disagree with everyone floating dystopian ideas like sterilisation and microchips.

It would be more humane to lengthen her sentence until she hits menopause. I am so tired of criminals getting do-overs at the expense of innocents.

Yep, the monitoring is not really there tho and I very much doubt that it will be there when she's done her time. So, I fully expect after she's done her time she will walk out into another hellish situation.

I can’t read the details of this case.
I couldn’t read the details of Preston Davey’s life and death either.
I’m not a believer in the death penalty ( I waver on this occasionally) but believe that people who inflict horrific abuse, be it physical or sexual or both, should be locked up permanently. No remission.
The victim is owed that much at least.

I think something like the choice of either sterilisation and a more lenient sentence (10 years?), or a life sentence, seems reasonable for the government to offer in a case like this. Let her decide. She doesn’t appear to be a danger to anyone but her own children, so her risk of reoffending is nil if she can't have children.

(Although personally, if I was judge, jury, and executioner, I'd do just that as soon as the trial was done. But that's neither here nor there, as to everyone's relief, I am not.)

Well then you're just sterilising her by deliberately keeping her in prison until she's infertile; what's the difference?

She wouldn't be continuously monitored in the sense of say, whether she starts a relationship, but it's exceptionally difficult to hide a pregnancy to full term and even more so to hide a baby once they've arrived. There are mechanisms in place if say, a pregnant woman tries to avoid scrutiny by moving area or going under the radar.

Do you think this about people who get hooked on opiods after painful operations/injuries, including those with cancer?
Or children drug-addicted at birth from their mum using? Or children given drugs by parents, causing them to have addictions? Kids abused by parents, who fall in with bad crowds?
Maybe no one you know has ever been in any of these situations, but one day, they could be.

Is...is this a serious question?

One option involves a longer prison sentence. The other is AN INVASIVE OPERATION quite possibly performed against her will.

I don't think there's much mind blowing there. The general idea is that mothers form one of the strongest bonds in the natural world to their biological offspring and protect them at all costs, which for the vast majority is true. This natural bonding does not always extend to adopted children, and step children. Instead of instinctive bonding through natural pregnancy hormones and oxytocin, this initial bonding in adopted children itself must be built entirely through intentional care, time, and commitment. Also, in adoption the state becomes the child's guardian. The child is already here and has to be found a home. It is the responsibility of the guardian to do the due diligence.