Aibu to think 6 years sentence is far too lenient for killing your baby.

Completely disagree with everyone floating dystopian ideas like sterilisation and microchips.

It would be more humane to lengthen her sentence until she hits menopause. I am so tired of criminals getting do-overs at the expense of innocents.

If she does the full sentence (very rare thing) she will be 34/35. What are the chances she will find someone and get pregnant once she’s released?

Sterilise her or increase her sentence

If she were to become pregnant she would be monitored during the pregnancy and the baby would almost certainly be removed at birth for adoption or care within her extended family.

Honestly I would be surprised if she makes it that far though, surely she's extremely high risk of suicide. I know prisons have steps in place to try and prevent that but they're not failsafe. She had a history of attempts on her life prior to being a mum, let alone with this.

Unfortunately, she will be allowed to procreate on her relesse, such is the law in this country unfortunately 😞.

This sounds like the plot of a dystopian sci fi novel

It’s a shame people who treat children like this - for whatever reason and with whatever context - are not required to be sterilised. At the end of the day they are not safe to be around children and the reasons for that don’t matter. The main thing is to prevent them having or coming into contact with any more children.

I've though about this! I think when babies are born, they should be fitted with a contraceptive microchip. When they get to a suitable age and have taken intensive parenting classes and are able to demonstrate that they can care appropriately for another human, the chips removed.
Think it will work?

She was out partying with her friends and neighbours, with the baby!!! All these people were there and did fuck all to protect this wee baby who's 'mother" was steaming drunk and trying to score drugs.
I hope they all feel some guilt, forever!!

How would you go about policing who was allowed to get pregnant? And how would you stop pregnancy?

I'm afraid I've got little sympathy for drug users and think they should be allowed to take as many drugs as they want and with a bit of luck, overdose and die

And how are they paying for all those drugs. Fewer addicts makes society better for everyone, not just the users.

From the judgement (my bold):

^”The Crown’s expert’s position was that the likely cause of Dahlia Rose’s death was hyperthermia and heatstroke rather than burns.
The defence expert’s position was that Dahlia Rose was likely already dead from another sudden and unexplained cause, before she was subjected to heat from the hairdryer.
The jury clearly and emphatically rejected the defence position. They had no reasonable doubt that it was the heat from the hairdryer which caused Dahlia Rose’s death”^

Yes, sorry, I re read and the report does say hyperthermia. I got confused as earlier reporting had mentioned people commenting that the child "looked freezing"
I am not sure why she wasn't reported being out and about, obviously intoxicated, with a baby? Or maybe she was?

As horrible as it is, if the situation was as the previous poster mentioned and she put the hair dryer on and passed out drunk, the charge and sentence makes more sense. Similar to drunk parents who have killed their child by co sleeping when drunk, or leaving them too close to a radiator. Its such a shame no one who saw her out and drunk that night intervened, it seems so easily avoidable in that regard.

Here is the sentencing statement from the Judge.

HMA v Courtney Gartshore (judiciary.scot)

No one who murdered someone is healthy and mentally stable. Doesn’t mean they don’t go to jail for a long time as a punishment.

I also thought this op, I cannot for the life of me understand such a short sentance, and the judge seemed to try to justify it by saying she’d have to live with it the rest of her life. She killed her baby in an utterly brutal and painful manner, wtf is wrong with the judge,

this sentance needs to be looked at again and increased.

Sadly the judgment says the baby likely died of hyperthermia, ie from heat, not hypo, from cold. Hyperthermia and heatstroke. So she died from being heated by the hairdryer, but not from the visible injuries, ie the burns.
Absolutely horrible. I feel very sorry for the jury and legal staff who had to sit through this case, and of course Dahlia-Rose.

20 years in prison for the undertaker who didn't bury dead customers. 7 for this freak.go figure.

She wasn't suffering a mental illness. She was extremely drunk.
Not that that makes it any better, but just because someone does something horrific doesn't mean they're mentally ill.

The report says that the baby was probably hypothermic before she did this. Either way it's awful.

You think healthy and mentally stable people a re e killing their babies?

I don’t think there’s a high possibility? As Gartshaw hasn’t said what actually happened, it does imply she might know she did something culpable. If people had seen her out with the baby and told her the baby looked very cold, they’d surely have noticed if the baby was already dead?

I think Gartshaw got in, accepted (and saw) that the baby was very cold and, instead of actively warming her up by holding her or getting her medical attention, she put a hairdryer on and pointed it at her - then went to sleep because she was pissed and out of it. The burns on the tiny baby were horrific. She must have screamed in agony, but Gartshaw either didn’t wake or half woke and just went back to sleep.

That’s just my opinion - but I think it’s a higher possibility than the baby already being dead when Gartshaw pointed the hairdryer at her.

Just as a matter of interest, what tax are you willing to pay to try fix things ?

The sentence should be a full life sentence. She killed tiny baby in the most hideous, hurtful way.
In addition to that, the mental health crisis is completely out of control at the moment after so much underinvestment in public services and we do need to realise that healthy, happy, secure people don’t kill babies and we should want a society where mental health problems are very unusual rather than a regular occurrence. Of course she was unstable to do that. Who would do it otherwise.
She is a monster, and a product of our negligent society.

There really needs to be a licensing system for people to have children. It's unbelievable that we let just anyone do it, no matter how incapable they are.