Aibu to think 6 years sentence is far too lenient for killing your baby.

What were the MH problems?

It's easy for all the bleeding hearts on here to feel sorry for the poor lady but if this case was a man he'd be guilty automatically only women are allowed to use MH problems as a excuse for anything

Why should we? I've had MH problems since I was a kid guess what I made it through life without killing a innocent baby I bet your so called "sympathy" wouldn't exist if this was a father because only women are allowed to have issues

She'll get it in prison 😂 even they don't like baby killers in there

Agree with you. Awful case but must we continue to stigmatise those with MH difficulties. It 2026 not 1986

I think that comment was a response to the leniency of the sentence.

The charge she was convicted of is culpable homicide through recklessness, not murder. Murder would have involved intent, and that was, in the opinion of the prosecutor, too hard to prove

Part of her legal defense was that the baby was already dead of unknown causes (possibly hypothermia) and the hair dryer was deployed in an attempt to warm her up (clearly not the solution a sensible or sober person would have thought of). This defense was rejected by the jury, who voted unanimously to convict her of the culpable homicide charge.

The maximum sentence available to the judge in the Scottish system for this charge is seven years. Various mitigating factors and other elements of the case were taken into account by the judge in passing a sentence of six years.

Apparently there is an older child who was not in this mother's care. This child had had social services involvement in her life.

Just incredibly sad all around.

Disgraceful thread. A young single mother, with mental health problems, came off her medication during pregnancy. Death by neglect, not murder.

Have some fucking compassion.

It wasn't just 'not burying dead customers'. It was serious fraud. Grieving families were given the wrong ashes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg35errde5o

You mean this one?

You're leaving out the crucial fact that this was due to psychosis.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/06/alice-mackey-daughter-annabel-mackey-hampshire-sentencing

No father around, another grim situation .

Sterilisation will be only be given to those who have been found guilty of child neglect, murder. This also includes males.

We are talking of a couple of hundred max

So you've no actual reasons why imprisoning someone for 20 years longer as a pp suggested, or taking their newborns away over and over again to go into the care system, is apparently 'more humane'?

Oh well, fair enough.

It is not my responsibility to educate you on something that most people learn by year 8 of high school. Or pick up through basic human decency. Go waste someone else's time.

@Runningswanker thanks for your support, via the react button (now that seems more like an edgelord thing to do). I'd prefer thoughtful engagement, but perhaps you don't actually have an argument to back up your statement? That's okay.

No, I think that if you want to argue something is bad, then actually argue why it's bad, don't just shout 'Nazi!' and call people edgelords, while not engaging with their arguments at all.

If you think that the effectiveness of road building is on a par with the consequences of forced sterilisation of criminals then there really is no point debating with you at all. Enjoy your Sunday.

Yes and I wonder who'd be making excuses for a man who did something as horrific as this.

Nope. I don't think that makes it inherently bad – not necessarily. The Nazis also built the autobahn, I believe. Is liking the autobahn edgelord behaviour?
You can't just argue 'bad because Nazi!' to try to shut people up – you need to state actual reasons.

Personally, I think that locking someone up in prison until menopause just to stop them getting pregnant, or letting them get pregnant over and over and taking their babies away every time, is actually much crueller than sterilisation. It should at least be offered in these cases, along with a sentence discount.

You don't think bringing back one of the Nazi's showcase policies is edgelord behaviour?

I read that comment and...disagree.

I'm not sure why thinking sterilisation is better than potentially ripping baby after baby from their mother's arms as she repeatedly gets pregnant, is 'edgelord' behaviour?

@Jdot and @OtterlyAstounding @maudelovesharold

Capable of being edgelords but not of reading a four page thread, how very original!

And cheaper for the tax payer!

with that disgusting attitude you’re just as bad if not worse than someone who does things fuelled by drugs, you are presumably sober and that’s how your mind works. gross.

The sad truth is this woman will be probably be released 2/3 of the way though her sentence and get pregnant again.