Ds accused of a hate crime

Where did I say it was okay?!

You are the one who said it was ok they were against gay marriage “because they’re Muslim” so perhaps you can answer if it’s different when Christian’s are the same?

Im not excusing what the boy said I am just saying the report for “homophobic slurs” was obviously vindictive coming from a couple who won’t allow their son to be gay. As if they actually care about homophobic slurs.
And as I’ve pointed out there are plenty of people willing to say he should own up and take the criminal record but when their own little brat beats his girlfriend or another kid up they pull every trick in the book so little Timothy doesn't have a blemished record.

Saying racist and homophobic things is not just saying stupid things. You keep on minimising this.
If we’re going to prosecute Muslims who are against same sex relationships will we be doing the same for Christians? Will we arrest vicars, reverends and priests who refuse to marry same sex couples on religious grounds? Or is that different?

Should the parents of the other boy be prosecuted for forcing their child to date women when he is gay? Is that not pretty hateful towards gay people?

Or just the 14 year old boy who said some stupid things ? Have a black mark against his name ? Potentially affecting future job prospects

Hate crime = not worth a criminal record.
This says a lot about you

I haven’t said it’s ok. I have said it’s not worth getting a criminal record over especially when the parents who called the police are homophobic themselves so are obviously purely motivated by vindictiveness.

I’ve also said I believe a lot of people on here pushing the whole “admit everything to the police and take the black mark against your name”thing are virtue signaling When their own kids are accused of far worse they hire the best lawyer they know and make damn sure Timothy knows to say “no comment”

That is all. Make sure your son knows to deny it op.

You have a real chip on your shoulder. You still haven’t justified your view that it is okay for people to make homophobic and racist comments, and throw drinks over people.

No she doesn’t.

She says her son’s friends did and wasn’t sure about the son.

there will be much more to this I’m sure

Even if the difference in opinion that caused the conflict is due to religious beliefs, it doesn't necessarily follow that anyone was racist.

It isn't racist to disagree with Islam on the grounds that it doesn't accept homosexuality.

He threw some soda and said some words. If the police want to pursue legal action for assault, he should accept his punishment. I am not defending those actions, but he did not put this young man at risk beyond what he did.

people who would react poorly to someone being gay are the ones who put the young man at risk. Put the blame on the right people.

Actually, she said "she said ds2 had seen her son in the park and shouted at him, threw his pepsi over him and said homophobic slurs at him and his friends and maybe ds her son wasn’t sure shouted racist slurs at him she’s mentioned the police for a hatecrime", which isn't very clear.

I'm not sure who did what, whether the mother herself is sure, and who was actually there to see what happened and how. Even then, depending on exactly what was said, the police might not agree it was racist, if it wasn't about race, but was about religious ideology (e.g. Muslim beliefs which don't tolerate homosexuality).

If the police come round you don’t have to let them in without a warrant.
I would agree to an interview at the police station but have a solicitor present.
Maybe read a prepared statement to them as they may try to get him to admit racial or homophobic motivation.

He has potentially put the other boy at huge huge risk

The op said her son was accused of shouting racist slurs

The op said her son was accused of shouting racist slurs

Hi everyone i need advice on how to deal with ds2

A few nights ago my eldest came to me in tears and said that he thought he was gay and had a bf who was his best friend first and i knew him but he said that they kept it quiet as his bfs family are muslim but they somehow found out and he broke up with ds they were going to be friends but ds told him he shouldn’t date a girl just for his parents approval as it’s selfish and not fair to treat a girl like that

boy said ds didn’t understand and blocked him this was a few weeks ago and because he lives close ds hasnt wanted to go out anywhere incase he sees him which ive noticed as he’s not gone anywhere all summer

his younger brother overheard this as he walked into the living room and didn’t say anything but ive had a message from the boys mum they live in the same building as us so i have her number but we arent close but she said ds2 had seen her son in the park and shouted at him, threw his pepsi over him and said homophobic slurs at him and his friends and maybe ds her son wasn’t sure shouted racist slurs at him she’s mentioned the police for a hatecrime which has freaked me out even tho she probs should as that behaviour isn’t ok

ive texted him to come home and he hasn’t the mum said her son said they rode off on their bikes but hes not even answered me. ds1 is upset as hes made everything worse

ages as people will ask probably ds1 is 17 next friday and ds2 is 14, the boy is 17

The parents are not homophonic. They are Muslim. They were born into a belief it is forbidden. Fuck, some of you really have no idea about the world. Just because they live in the UK, are you really naive enough to think its that simple? They would probably have some fairly strong feelings if he was dating your daughter. Kaffir and gay relationships are rarely welcomed.

It’s virtue signaling to sit on here saying someone else’s 14 year old son needs to admit to this and have a black mark against his name over it.

When I know most of you would be hiring the best lawyer in town if your own kid was accused of something far worse.

Even if the difference in opinion that caused the conflict is due to religious beliefs, it doesn't necessarily follow that anyone was racist.

It isn't racist to disagree with Islam on the grounds that it doesn't accept homosexuality.