To contact social services?

It wouldn't even occur to me to report this. I think you're allowing your previous experiences, which I am sorry to hear about, to colour your judgement here.

"nearly" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here!

Exactly! Is it the 50s? Should only mums do childcare or else it's a safeguarding concern?

No member of school staff has to discuss Safeguarding concerns with a parent before reporting those concerns. They do need to tell the DSL, who will ask them to write down what happened.

Edited becsuse i didnt read the op properly. I would speak to tge mum
Why on earth did you i tellher that it was ok for mums to wash privates of older girls. Seven is not a small child!

Yes and? I’m trying to help the poster not shut down conversations in future by saying “only mummies” do xyz because I know 2 people who were abused by women….

How convenient that you’ve had a ‘couple of run ins’ with her Mum and now her child has completely randomly confided in you. I’ve been teaching for 16 years and haven’t had a child make a disclosure of a sexual nature in all those years. I’ve got 4 children, all of whom had friends around, so I’ve been around children that trust me, regularly for basically all my adult life and have yet to have a disclosure like this made to me.

Just report it, you know you’re going to anyway.

Before anyone comes at me, of course I know this COULD have happened. Hence why I said to report it just to be on the safe side but come on, what are the odds?

Edited to add; it wasn’t your place to tell her to what should and should not happen. I appreciate you may not be trained but common sense would dictate that surely. You’ve potentially told her something confusing. I had to wash my son’s penis and anus when he was older than 7. If he were to have told a stranger then I would expect them to raise concerns and then I could have explained to the relevant people why that was completely necessary and why a GP advised it, case closed. A virtual stranger wouldn’t know that and I wouldn’t appreciate them making confusing comments to my child.

I am sorry but you think fathers washing daughters newborn and up until they no longer need assistance is wrong! Seriously. Why did you have a child or marry a man you think is a danger to them. My sons grandad (paternal side) has numerous granddaughters and has I imagine bathed them when they were younger. Not all men are perverts

Edit to add my dad probably bathed me as a kid as well and he certainly never abused me! And sons other grandad has 4 daughters who he also I imagine bathed and none of them seem to worry about him with children.

If grandfather wants to help granddaughter then he should teach her the value of privacy

I’m sorry but no grandfather should be helping a seven year old girl get washed. Most decent men would not want to involved in this and if there was no choice then I would expect they would trust granddaughter to do the best she can on her own. He’s not there to teach her how to wash or oversee she does it correctly. As a mother I would be extremely uncomfortable with this scenario - I’m usually quite relaxed about other things, not this though

She bought it up with you because it bothers her. That it bothers you is a second flag.

I would call nspcc/SS yes. Trust your instincts, and no, a grandfather doesn't usually wash a 7 yo. Fuck all these posters protesting sexism, it doesn't really happen. 7 yos don't need help to wash except for hair. Why did she need a bath at his anyway?

I wouldn't tell the mum, she might dismiss or minimise. You don't know her position or if she'd do anything, and your job is to safeguard the child.

Absolutely report it.

It is a very odd and random thing for a child to say to a stranger.

Report to her school. Don’t wait until September - someone at the school will be contactable for monitoring safeguarding issues over the summer holidays. Probably the head/deputy head.

She would also ask her dad. She probably would ask her grandad if he babysat or did bath time. It’s not inherently wrong and doesn’t automatically make a grandad “creepy”

A father/grandfather helping a child wash is not necessarily wrong or automatically abuse!

it could be something as simple as helping her wipe the bubbles off before getting out.

if the OP feels something is off, then it should be reported, but that doesn’t make it automatically wrong

She DID talk to someone about it,duh!

As I said it starts with "nearly".

Children know to tell someone they trust, she chose you. You need to act on that trust.

My niece once stayed over when she was 5 and while she was getting changed for bed was telling me about what she had been told at school about who could see their privates etc. Could it be this girl has had similar conversations and that grandad wasn't on the list, that kind of thing, and so she mentioned it?

Yeah,but you are their mum not a creepy grandad!

It starts with washing and " nearly" touching,believe me. Get ss on the phone. Guy is a creep.

Yeah but thats dad and son,not grandad and grand daughter. Thats a whole different ballgame!
Same sex in families is one thing, but fathers and grand fathers washing little girls? Seriously? Thats wrong.

It’s also strange that she decided to tell you.

I’d report it to her school.

They start doing nspcc pants rules from reception. It’s possible grandad over saw a bath and there were no issues however I feel most 7 year olds are washing themselves and for me the fact she spoke to you is a bit odd.

It’s better for you to report and it be nothing than not report and it’s a missing jigsaw piece of a wider picture of abuse.

If a child said this to a teacher they’d have to speak to the parents to get their pov. But you can be anonymous.

It depends on the child.