Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think Dsis is overeacting after SS hit niece?

885 replies

PapaSteel · 13/08/2026 13:22

I've been with my partner for 8 years and we have dc together, he has a son from his previous relationship. He's 15 and not his bio son but he's been in his life since he was young and he sees him as his dad

Alot happened when we got together as his ex would tell SS that DP didn't want to see him anymore now he was dating me which wasn't true at all. She was physically & verbally abusive towards him and he's been living with us since he was 13 (after he told school about howHe has a lot of trauma and anger which school are supportive about and outside of school he gets help on how to manage the anger and he is a lot better than he was but the anger is still there so we are just patient with him

We're currently on holiday with my sister and her 2 dc and have been here since Monday. There was issues almost straight away as ss got angry at the claw machine but he and dp left the arcade and went for a walk to calm down as the arcade was busy so there was no way he'd have been able to calm down whilst in the arcade. My sister described him as a tantrumming toddler who didn't get his own way and said partner wasn't doing him any favours. I ignored her

He loves drawing and usually if you ask he will show what he's drawing but earlier he was at the table drawing and my niece (10) kept asking what he was drawing. He told her but she kept saying “show me show me” despite him saying no, she pulled his sketch book away from him which caused him to shout at her and she “accidentally” spilt her water on it. He was clearly very angry/upset and walked off to go to his room and she followed him and called him a baby, asked if he was going to cry etc, and he turned round and hit her and now he's being made out to be the bad guy

During this my sister was out with her other dc, my dp was in the shower and I was telling her multiple times to leave him alone and do something else even when she was repeatedly telling him to show her his drawing and she ignored me

My sister is now back and furious, she said she doesn't want her children to share a space with a “violent man”, and has even mentioned going to the police and social services on us if we're happy to have him around our children as he's not related to us when asked where he should go she just replied care

AIBU to think she's overreacting? I know SS shouldn't have hit her and he knows this too but she hasn't apologised for her part in deliberatly winding him up and sister says she doesn't need to as she's a child and he's nearly an adult

OP posts:
OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 13/08/2026 15:10

HumberSquid · 13/08/2026 15:09

She was pestering him.
Wouldn't take no for an answer
Damaged his stuff.
Then, when he walked away, she followed him jeering and taunting him.

I think that actually is quite a lot.

None of these things even come close to being mitigating factors.

Itsa10fromLen · 13/08/2026 15:10

Duskiestsunset · 13/08/2026 14:20

Jesus. Really? What a waste of police resources. And we have to pay for that. All
because she is unable to parent her ten year old.

I don’t think protecting a child from being struck by a boy five years her senior and assumedly much, much stronger is a waste of police time personally. I made no comments about the nieces behaviour and will continue not to as that’s not what OP actually asked. She asked if her sister was overreacting and I don’t think she is. Her parenting if her child is a separate issue. I thought a woman in the shop earlier was extremely rude to me, she was argumentative, provocative and aggressive. However, she didn’t lay a finger on me and therefore I am not allowed to hit her as that would be illegal. She didn’t do anything illegal, it’s not necessarily fair but it’s the law. And I don’t think reporting illegal things is a waste of time. Would I ring the police over this? No. It doesn’t change the facts though.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 13/08/2026 15:10

Sounds like this angry boy is always on the edge; you’ve got used to tiptoeing around him and you’re expecting everyone else to do the same.

I’d not have my children near him either.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/08/2026 15:09

HumberSquid · 13/08/2026 15:09

She was pestering him.
Wouldn't take no for an answer
Damaged his stuff.
Then, when he walked away, she followed him jeering and taunting him.

I think that actually is quite a lot.

so she was asking for it, right?

HumberSquid · 13/08/2026 15:09

Wisher88 · 13/08/2026 15:06

He was upset by an arcade game so I don't believe it took a lot. No matter how annoying a child is you don't get to hit them. They both sound like brats but one brat is capable of doing long lasting damage if he can't control himself.

Edited

She was pestering him.
Wouldn't take no for an answer
Damaged his stuff.
Then, when he walked away, she followed him jeering and taunting him.

I think that actually is quite a lot.

Wisher88 · 13/08/2026 15:08

WhatNoRaisins · 13/08/2026 15:07

Also never let kids play claw games. They're a scam.

There's an amazing bloke online who shows people how to beat the claw game! Perhaps the arcade are the real villains

lifeturnsonadime · 13/08/2026 15:08

DecisionTime123 · 13/08/2026 15:00

@lifeturnsonadime OP isnt the only one saying the girl was asking for it ... sometimes here I think I've wandered into the Daily Mail comments page.

There are so many threads like this popping up.

There was one about a 20 year old son yesterday.

Adossieronme · 13/08/2026 15:07

If he behaves like this to 10 year old in front of an adult

Imagine him alone.

Imagine him with a teen girl. Alone. Who pisses him off.

Stompythedinosaur · 13/08/2026 15:07

PapaSteel · 13/08/2026 13:44

I did tell her repeatedly to leave him alone when she began pestering him to show her what he was drawing and then when she followed him and was calling him a crybaby etc and saying it was only a bit of paper. She ignored me. She's not a toddler how would I have “removed her” like a poster said. I was also feeling my baby at the time so not possible

We know he has anger problems which is why he's getting help and he is better than what he was and takes himself away from the situation when he feels himself getting annoyed/angry which is a big improvement to how he used to be. He's already apologised and knows he was in the wrong but I don't think it's right that sister has told her to not apologise

This isn't a ‘reverse’ whatever that is

If you weren't capable of caring for the group of dc adequately then you should never have agreed to look after them!

You get up and stand in-between them if you need to. Use a stern voice. Call their parents if you need to.

I'm astonished you don't see your role here!

fuzzwuss · 13/08/2026 15:07

Male hits female, but she needs to apologise for winding him up??!! She sounds badly behaved too, but that is no excuse for violence.

I'm team DSIS.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/08/2026 15:07

Also never let kids play claw games. They're a scam.

Wisher88 · 13/08/2026 15:06

HumberSquid · 13/08/2026 15:02

Not a free pass. She had to work really, really hard at upsetting him before he hit her.

He was upset by an arcade game so I don't believe it took a lot. No matter how annoying a child is you don't get to hit them. They both sound like brats but one brat is capable of doing long lasting damage if he can't control himself.

Nearly50omg · 13/08/2026 15:06

This boy nearly man needs professional help. You and his dad aren’t even professionals and I’d suggest asking ss for an inpatient facility to help him. He’s going to end up in prison by the time he’s 16 otherwise

Stompythedinosaur · 13/08/2026 15:04

The ss shouldn't have become violent, of course, and I hope his df is addressing that.

But why on earth didn't you step in to tell off dneice and move her away earlier?

Passaggressfedup · 13/08/2026 15:03

What type of 'hit' are we taking about? There's a big difference between hurting with a fist, that pushes on the floor and left a mark and a slight slap on the arm that leaves no mark.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/08/2026 15:03

What the 15 year old did was wrong but he did at least try to walk away which gives some hope that he can learn strategies here. It sounds like his dad is trying to work on it with him as well.

This 10 year old sounds vile, I'd be absolutely furious with my DC if they treated someone like that. After seeing such unnecessarily spiteful behaviour I'd be very careful having her around your young children without you.

Wisher88 · 13/08/2026 15:02

Newsflash, 10 year old girls are annoying. It needs to be corrected but everything you described is fairly normal, especially given that he was allowed to shout in her face.
You seem quick to justify him shouting and hitting but don't seem to offer her the same grace.
However, I would not say it is developmentally normal for a 15 year old to clump a 10 year old.
Scraps among teenage boys are of course not unusual, but clumping a primary school child isn't normal. At 15 I would expect him to brush it off.

Like others have said, you were the adult in charge. You should have sat between them if you thought he couldn't tolerate what is fairly normal behaviour for a 10 yo. It's peak age to wind others up. At 10 she's testing the boundaries. She should have been put in her place before it escalated.

If he needs to be taken for a walk to calm down because he can't cope with an arcade game then he should have been taken back home to the hotel by his dad until he can get a grip.

I assume you've already got him in therapy?

I would also consider working on yourself. The language you used is that your niece "caused" him to shout at her. Then surely his tantrum caused her to call him a baby?

HumberSquid · 13/08/2026 15:02

augustfairytale · 13/08/2026 13:26

You're being totally unreasonable I'm afraid. A 15 year old boy doesn't get a free pass to hit a 10 year old just because they're annoying and he's troubled.

It's great he has you in his corner but channel this energy in to getting him therapy instead of teaching him this is ok.

Not a free pass. She had to work really, really hard at upsetting him before he hit her.

Tableforjoan · 13/08/2026 15:01

When you ask yourself this op how could you possibly think the child who is legally old enough to be arrested for his assault on a child was anywhere near in the right or that the 10 year old was just as bad as someone assaulting her.

DecisionTime123 · 13/08/2026 15:00

@lifeturnsonadime OP isnt the only one saying the girl was asking for it ... sometimes here I think I've wandered into the Daily Mail comments page.

Flintgranet · 13/08/2026 14:59

You are under-reacting to his violence. The excuses and explanations (his past, 'he is working on it', etc) will do no good at all when he hurts someone.

He and your DP need to understand right now how very outrageous this was. No matter the baiting or the mocking, he does not hit. He was in no physical danger that required a violent response.

Today the 10 year old niece, tomorrow his girlfriend, his wife, his stepmother. Your blaming the 10 year old is classic 'she made me do it'.

It does not matter that she was being a horrid, insensitive little shit (and she was). Not at all. Really, really accept that.

Wingingit73 · 13/08/2026 14:59

The 10 year old sounds awful but they shouldn't be left together. Your sister is still right. He is a young adult and he cannot control his anger. His mother needs tp deal with it.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/08/2026 14:58

Was she asking for it OP?

Some of the responses on here are astonishing. As is your attitude. It is never OK for a 15 year old male to hit a 10 year old female.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 13/08/2026 14:58

Shmodipshit · 13/08/2026 14:27

@PapaSteel
Why didn’t you get up, walk over and physically intervene by moving the artwork and telling your SS to go to another room, whilst making eye contact with your niece and telling her that no means no and she needs to leave him and his drawings alone for now. Why didn’t you get involved?

It sounds like you ineffectually sat off at the side just saying “stop please.”

You know he is a danger, you need to be standing there and intervening.

OP has said she was feeding her baby at the time. .

The niece ignored her requests to stop.

These events can happen really quickly

InterIgnis · 13/08/2026 14:56

That he’s only 5’5 is irrelevant. At 15 he has a strength that is not in any way equivalent to that of a 10 year old girl.

It would have been one thing if he’d have verbally snapped back, but he escalated it to actual violence. That he 1, thinks this acceptable, and 2, actually did it, are major red flags, and ones that needs to be tackled now. The wider context of his troubled background only further emphasizes the need to do this, not make allowances.

When serious crimes are committed, ‘why won’t the warning signs heeded?’ is a common refrain. Well, this is one of those warning signs, and taking it seriously isn’t ’overreacting’.

ETA: that isn’t to say that your niece didn’t behave badly. She did, but it did not justify his response.

Swipe left for the next trending thread