Child Maintenance-Should fathers on benefits pay more?

I think the real issue here is that he is working cash in hand and paying the absolute minimum in CMS because his true income is not being declared.
The how and why he is on PIP should not really matter, and PIP should not be regarded for CMS anyway due to the fact it is awarded based on how someone's disability affects them, and not what money they have.

But until cash in hand work can be better detected etc, then I am not sure what the solution is.

Back when we were young my dad was ordered to pay 15p per year for the three of us never paid a penny he was on benefits at the time dads on benefits and child support has always been crap

It's very rare to get PIP for any condition if you're managing to work full time. Full time work usually (although not always) counts against anyone trying to claim. Hence why so few claimants are working. He probably knows this and it's why he's doing it unofficially. He will likely have told them he can't work.

It would be aids and adaptation needed to do things like cooking a meal, taking meds etc. Or he might not be managing to do some every day things at all although it sounds more like he's just lied from what you've said before. Do you have evidence he's working? Could you send that to one of the authorities if you don't think they know?

Many people can not work with out the help from Pip. It covers the extra costs needed to get to work ,to aupport them through the day. Would you rather they did not work

But PIP fraud is just 1%

Well that doesnt make sense drug induced psychosis is usualy over fairly quickly
You cant continue to claim disabillty benefits .

So he much psychosis he can go to work perfectly on his own

That does not matter.
Would you deny benefits to someone who was paralysed after a skiing accident?

Sadly the system is made by man to serve the man. I have tried to increase cm because of undeclared income but they didn’t even bother to call the dad to ask about this…they said they can’t see on hmrc income …how these dads can live with those scams on their own kids is beyond me.

Surely that's his own doing for taking drugs and getting addicted?

Actually as technology has advanced I am going to have to disagree that you don't need a phone potentially with internet.

Whilst I've not had to claim benefits on many years I have for many other things in life needed to have 2 factor authentication to access apps, and that absolutely does require a phone and annoyingly most old brick phones would not support the apps/technology needed to do so.

So we need to get past having a smartphone/internet being seen as a luxury and understand in these times it is very much a necessity.

THAT said....NOBODY NEEDS the latest fucking iPhone or a £50pm contract 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ I bought my phone second cheap hand and have a £20pm all in SIM that covers everything.

And people on benefits who don’t pay much for their kids should suffer and life should be horrible they should have to go out and find a library to use the internet!!

But they are normal everyday things.
No one "needs" most things they use and take for granted.

Library: free internet no one “needs” a smart phone or broadband lol

😂 yeah and kids need feeding 👍

Remember Hitchens razor ... cleans up MN a lot.

You need a smart phone to access your UC account.
Broadband is pretty much a totally normal utility bill.

Do you mean his PIP? Or do you mean his basic universal credit benefits? His PIP is meant to be used to help him pay for the extra expenses that his disability incurs, and his standard Universal Credit is to cover his basic living expenses. Does he get the Limited Capability for Work component of UC? If he does, because he’s claiming he can’t work, and is working CIH, that needs reporting.

His child maintenance should come out of his earnings, not his UC, so the solution is to make his earnings be declared, which is easier said than done, and may involve him being prosecuted for benefit fraud.

He sounds like a horrible feckless excuse for a father, I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this.