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AIBU to think cancelling the flight over a child was excessive

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MrsShawnHatosy · 10/08/2026 16:08

An airline cancelled a flight because a child refused to sit down and put their seatbelt on. AIBU to think they should have asked the parents to get off, rather than cancelling the flight and stranding the rest of the passengers?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/news/flight-cancelled-passengers-stranded-due-37532204

Flight cancelled and passengers stranded due to child's actions

Flight PD444 from Victoria International Airport in B.C. to Toronto's Pearson International Airport did not take off on Thursday after a child passenger onboard refused to sit down

https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/news/flight-cancelled-passengers-stranded-due-37532204

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Shelby2010 · 10/08/2026 18:38

Tessasanderson · 10/08/2026 16:16

Simple fact is, this is not anyone elses problem. If the child reacts so badly, the PARENT is responsible for picking them up and walking off the plane so everyone else isnt effected.

Have you ever tried to get off an airplane that’s taxiing down the runway. It’s a plane, not a bus!

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:35

JudgeJ · 10/08/2026 18:33

There is no evidence the child is gently parented.

There is no evidence the child was 'parented' at all, two able bodied adults would be capable of restraining a 3 year old if they tried.

Well, quite a few have refuted this and I would agree. I can get my child away from a situation but I can’t restrain her very easily without risking injury.

BebbanburgIsMine · 10/08/2026 18:34

Floatlikeafeather2 · 10/08/2026 18:09

I have already done this.

Fair enough!

My apologies 😊

BebbanburgIsMine · 10/08/2026 18:33

Goatsarebest · 10/08/2026 18:19

She has apologies. Maybe you need to read the thread again.

I hadn’t seen her apology when I wrote this.

I read the article properly the first time, didn’t need to read it again

JudgeJ · 10/08/2026 18:33

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/08/2026 17:15

This story has gome around the world for no good reason. The child was scared not an arsehole. There is no evidence the child is gently parented. The family was removed. Victoria airport closes so the flight couldn't go later.

But everyone is an aviation and parenting expert without reading the facts.

Just try to read long form before you immediately and emotionally react in whatever your form of bias wants you to. Media nonsense designed for clicks.

There is no evidence the child is gently parented.

There is no evidence the child was 'parented' at all, two able bodied adults would be capable of restraining a 3 year old if they tried.

Octavia64 · 10/08/2026 18:32

I think the only way to tell if a toddler/pre schooler will be ok on a plane is to take them on a plane (caveat some obviously are not and shouldn’t go anywhere near one) as lots of kids are fairly amenable generally and then freak out on a plane.

on that note I’d like to apologise to anyone on the Ryanair flight to Malaga when my dc were 18 months as they both screamed the whole way and I was bloody grateful to have grandparents with us.

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:29

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

I’m inclined to think the parents were despairing and probably very upset.

apart from anything else you’d have to have the hide of a rhino not to feel the disapproval and hatred.

It’s hardly a common occurrence, even though MN would have you believe feral children are grounding flights routinely, and is indicative to me of some other issue

notimagain · 10/08/2026 18:27

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

Yes indeed.

The full story of how this played out would be interesting to hear, but we may not get it.

Linetree · 10/08/2026 18:27

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

I think it's entirely possible a child could be comfortable until the plane started moving.

TheignT · 10/08/2026 18:25

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:18

Absolutely! He's have been I jured if the force required was applied!

Yes it's scary to think what could happen.

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

Anyahyacinth · 10/08/2026 17:19

Open the door and walk into air? Onto the taxi route to the runway?? Leaving their luggage in the plane against all travel rules??
As others have said the plane had left the gate, timings are that tight...this wasn't a bus to get straight off

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

Linetree · 10/08/2026 18:24

Wadsworthy · 10/08/2026 18:21

The article says that the child was buckled in but would then slide out underneath.

Incompetent parenting.

I'm inclined to agree, in that I really can't imagine one of mine doing that, but in reality, if you've got one who is determined to slide out of the belt, how do you stop it?

Cailin66 · 10/08/2026 18:23

Rightsraptor · 10/08/2026 17:28

The child was frightened and it also seems to have been after 11pm, so I'd suggest the lateness of the flight was a big factor in unsettling the child.

So what if it was 11 pm. Don’t fly if your child is a brat, or if your child can’t behave, or if the time is too unsettling for your child.

Victorius19 · 10/08/2026 18:23

Mind boggling, those poor people getting so delayed and then being stuck overnight because of someone's ineffective parenting.

Wadsworthy · 10/08/2026 18:21

The article says that the child was buckled in but would then slide out underneath.

Incompetent parenting.

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:20

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/08/2026 18:13

Except that doesn't work on distress (or at all because it's piss poor parenting) and illegal in Canada for under 2s. Or if done in anger.

And everyone is seeing this as a failure of gentle parenting. But I grew up in South London with people who were parented the opposite way. Lots of physical chastisement and shouting. And it did not result in wonderfully behaved upstanding citizens. I aslo lived for many years in Canada with gentle parented snowflakes. And they are, day to day, wonderful, helpful, famously wellbehaved people.

Same, grew up on Ireland parented in 80s style hit first ask questions later. My sister is exactly like my son, I remember my dad beating her trying to get her in a seatbelt to get to school, this girl was 6 and she unbuckled herself and jumped out of a reversing car. They had to admit defeat and he was a big man happy to hurt you.

Goatsarebest · 10/08/2026 18:19

BebbanburgIsMine · 10/08/2026 18:04

It most definitely does state that the child was scared, so you owe this poster an apology.

It’s you that needs to read the article again.

She has apologies. Maybe you need to read the thread again.

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:18

TheignT · 10/08/2026 18:12

Yes I think adults could do it but they would possibly injure the child. If they are in a state they seem to have phenomenal strength. If the parents plus crew couldn't do it then it was pretty extreme.

Absolutely! He's have been I jured if the force required was applied!

Wadsworthy · 10/08/2026 18:18

The parents should have been heavily fined. Apparently other travellers were left trying to scramble for hotel rooms, as the airline didn't arrange that. And I gather some people weren't able to find overnight accommodation.

I'd have been furious.

Cla7 · 10/08/2026 18:17

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/08/2026 18:00

Maybe their luggage should stay on and return on the returning flight once plane has turned around

Safety level 0/10.

BirdLandedonmyHead · 10/08/2026 18:16

Maybe aircraft should carry something like the CARES harness for children who need more than the lap belt?

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/08/2026 18:14

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 10/08/2026 18:08

@Blondeshavemorefun You haven't watched the Lockerbie series on Netflix, have you?

Luggage NEVER travels without the passenger who checked it in. Unless there has been a serious security breach.

I guess this is a very good point

no I haven’t. I don’t have Netflix

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:14

But this article is like catnip to a certain type of person

notimagain · 10/08/2026 18:13

Luggage NEVER travels without the passenger who checked it in. Unless there has been a serious security breach

If I don't mention it someone will - strictly that's not quite true.

If it was true lost baggage would never get back to it's owner.

There are ways of transporting unaccompanied baggage/cargo/packages safely, but none of those would have helped in this case 🤔..

In this instance the bags had to come off.

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:13

I think it’s easy to underestimate how strong a determined child can be

i am sure the parents tried but while you can restrain a child forcing someone into a sitting position is much harder