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To feel like I’ve lost my freedom and spontaneity for the next decade minimum

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overandoveragain26 · 09/08/2026 20:00

I’ve already posted in lone parents but no replies and I’ll be honest - I really need a whinge tonight, nothing else needed [ smile]

I love my children so much but … I want some time away, some proper time away, not a few snatched hours, a full day, preferably a weekend, where I don’t need to worry about dashing back, can explore somewhere new, can wander and be me and soak it all in.

And it isn’t realistic for it to happen. No family to help, it’s a huge massive ask for friends, and I just need to wait until they are old enough to be self sufficient but realistically that’s going to be a decade or more!

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TreeBungalow · 11/08/2026 02:22

OtterlyAstounding · 10/08/2026 22:59

I think for the most part people aren’t being unempathetic, they’re just trying to provide different perspectives, sympathise, and provide solutions. But as it seems OP (understandably) just wanted to vent her frustrations, I guess those don’t feel helpful.
I don’t think most people have said OP’s feelings aren’t absolutely valid, just that every parent experiences this to some degree (usually a lesser degree, of course!), and all you can do is grab moments of peace where you can, and look forward to gradually regaining your freedom. But again, if OP is just wanting to vent, that won’t be what she wants/needs to hear right now.

I do hear what you’re saying, but if you looked at the poster I’m replying to’s history in this thread, you might see what I was getting at.

I also really do think there’s a difference when somebody is widowed, and not just a single parent, they can feel both bereaved and truly alone in quite a fundamental way.

mamajong · 11/08/2026 01:00

Is it really a huge ask of a friend though? Sometimes we make assumptions that are wrong. When mine were little they loved a sleepover, I would often have a friends 2 kids on a friday night - she could drop them off at school and have all day amd night friday, id pick them up from school and have them until midday Saturday. It wasnt a big deal to me, it might not be for others. In return she would feed our pets when we were away.

Its hard to ask for help but its worth doing

SunnyCoco · 10/08/2026 23:40

I'm so sorry OP.
It must be devastating to lose your husband, and shouldering your children's grief must be a heavy load too.

You're in a really hard relentless season and I really hope you find more kindness in real life than you have on this thread, which has been a shock to read.

Sending big love and strength to you

OtterlyAstounding · 10/08/2026 22:59

TreeBungalow · 10/08/2026 21:42

I think it’s best you don’t reply anymore too.

OP - I hope you’re ok, you’ve been given a hard time on here for no good reason at all. I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m shocked at the lack of empathy for you.

I think for the most part people aren’t being unempathetic, they’re just trying to provide different perspectives, sympathise, and provide solutions. But as it seems OP (understandably) just wanted to vent her frustrations, I guess those don’t feel helpful.
I don’t think most people have said OP’s feelings aren’t absolutely valid, just that every parent experiences this to some degree (usually a lesser degree, of course!), and all you can do is grab moments of peace where you can, and look forward to gradually regaining your freedom. But again, if OP is just wanting to vent, that won’t be what she wants/needs to hear right now.

Bushmillsbabe · 10/08/2026 22:27

OP, please try and focus on the kind posts. We don't know you, but we are with you.

This phrase always help me when faced with judgement or unkindness
"What someone says, says everything about them and nothing about you"

Whether you become a mum at 18 or 38, it's tough. Really tough. Amazing, but tough. It's not a competition. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. Finding it hard, but getting up and doing it every single day makes you a hero.

I have so much admiration for mums who are doing it on their own, for whatever reason.

I hope you find your 'village' who support you and lift you up.

NET145 · 10/08/2026 22:26

Babysitter!

Leggsses · 10/08/2026 22:09

OP, I want to sincerely apologise if anything in my post early on caused you any hurt or upset. It was never my intention. 💐

Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 21:48

TreeBungalow · 10/08/2026 21:42

I think it’s best you don’t reply anymore too.

OP - I hope you’re ok, you’ve been given a hard time on here for no good reason at all. I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m shocked at the lack of empathy for you.

I will reply to you though.

OP said her being widowed wasn’t relevant to her post, her post was about being a lone parent and lack of spontaneity. And that’s how most people responded, that being a parent is hard. She’s now saying people were making horrible comments, and in the context of ‘just’ being a lone parent, they weren’t horrible comments.

TreeBungalow · 10/08/2026 21:42

Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 21:10

I said you should have put everything in your first post, not 8 posts down! Threads are fast moving and posters are sometimes replying to other posters, they aren’t always reading the posts before that, or seeing the updates.

I’m not replying to you anymore, there’s lots of ‘horrible’ comments you can reply to.

I think it’s best you don’t reply anymore too.

OP - I hope you’re ok, you’ve been given a hard time on here for no good reason at all. I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m shocked at the lack of empathy for you.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 21:10

overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 20:55

And @Jackiepumpkinhead are you kidding me, empathy? You’ve shown not one shred of empathy, or decency, of kindness. Not one.

I don’t think it matters but you repeated that it did, that had I only explained in my OP, you would have responded differently, except that was clearly untrue as all your responses were a long time after mine.

What I want is for you to find some other thread, tbh. I don’t want to keep engaging here.

I said you should have put everything in your first post, not 8 posts down! Threads are fast moving and posters are sometimes replying to other posters, they aren’t always reading the posts before that, or seeing the updates.

I’m not replying to you anymore, there’s lots of ‘horrible’ comments you can reply to.

TreeBungalow · 10/08/2026 21:08

MJagain · 09/08/2026 21:45

I guess the other thing to do it remember you already have had 20 adult years of freedom - that’s more than most on this forum. Life is cyclical, this decade is a phase just like all the others.

Although she’s said she’s bereaved which I think definitely means she needs empathy vs straight talking here. Even without a bereavement it’s ok to have feelings about the huge change of being a parent and then a single parent. But this for her won’t be just another decade.

overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 20:55

And @Jackiepumpkinhead are you kidding me, empathy? You’ve shown not one shred of empathy, or decency, of kindness. Not one.

I don’t think it matters but you repeated that it did, that had I only explained in my OP, you would have responded differently, except that was clearly untrue as all your responses were a long time after mine.

What I want is for you to find some other thread, tbh. I don’t want to keep engaging here.

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overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 20:53

Well, we evidently differ in what we think is horrible as I’m afraid I do think they are absolutely fucking heartless.

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Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 20:50

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overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 20:39

Once you added that, people’s replies changed.

remember you already have had 20 adult years of freedom - that’s more than most on this forum

Yes this is what parenting is unfortunately when your children are small. If you're in your 40s you had decades of freedom before you had children so I think you just have to accept that until they're older, you won't have that kind of freedom

I actually think it is harder for those who have kids a bit later to adapt to the lack of freedom, having had two decades of complete freedom beforehand

It’s not really solely a lone parent problem - most parents lose that spontaneity and freedom when they have kids … I just suck it up, it won’t be forever

Its called parenthood

To be fair you waited till 40 to have kids so you had over 20 years of adult life to be free and spontaneous. You also must have predicted life would be this way for a while, it’s just motherhood for most people

I don’t want to sound harsh, but what did you expect parenting to be? I ask that genuinely, not trying to be snarky. I’m really sorry about the children’s dad but even having two parents, parenting is extremely hard work and exhausting (that was you)

I acknowledged the loss of her children’s father (that was also you; big of you. FYI both your posts were several hours after I explained that we’d suffered a loss.)

What did you think parenting entails if not being responsible for your children

And finally another one from you

I read all your drip feeding posts, and I am still baffled as to why parents/parent are surprised by how hard parenting is

So you read all my posts, the only ‘drip feed’ was it was death rather than abandonment, but you still think that it was OK to say that to me. And you think if I’d said from the start DH had died I wouldn’t have had the above replies except the ones above are all from after this post.

But why would those replies be OK if he’d walked out, or been sentenced to life imprisonment? They wouldn’t be, would they? They’d be just as cruel and callous and unkind.

I have to say there were a lot of very kind posts too and thank you. Unfortunately though you fixate on the horrible ones, it’s like they jump out and claw you somehow.

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Viperregency · 10/08/2026 20:01

I’m sorry for your loss op and it’s only normal you feel sad about rhe change, and sometimes feel overwhelmed or negative. Ir is a hugely devastating thing to happen.

can I ask how long ago your partner passed, it must be relatively recent, so I suspect you’re still grieving and adjusting to your new normality.

I don’t know you, but I strongly suspect you’re doing a wonderful job and with more time you will adjust and life will be good again, your children will bring you so much joy, x

Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 19:50

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overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 19:37

But frankly, saying "oh, it's 6h, not 8h, I couldn't enjoy myself in 6h" is cutting off your nose to spite your face

No, @TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis , I haven’t said that, and why you want to twist my words like that I don’t know. But I shall try to explain.

So for example I went to a museum in Leeds once, when pregnant with my ds (and with DH.) I really enjoyed it but due to being heavily pregnant struggled to get round it. Leeds is about two hours from where I live, so even if I can guarantee the traffic is behaving itself (and anyone familiar with the M1 knows this isn’t a given) I get there around 11 and then have a rushed and harried two hours before having to shoot off again. In that instance yes, eight hours would make a difference.

There is a huge different between resenting a situation (I don’t) and feeling sad about a situation and what could have been (I do) but I’m sure you’ll tell me I’m wrong about that too.

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overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 19:33

@Jackiepumpkinhead - I clearly said I had already posted in Lone Parents. I don’t actually think it matters if a woman (it usually is a woman) is abandoned or widowed in this particular scenario.

If you are telling me you only read my first post, you didn’t notice that I had already posted in Lone Parents and therefore am a lone parent (or that you did notice it but felt that a woman left by a man is deserving of criticism and harsh words) and therefore felt justified in making an unpleasant reply I’m afraid we aren’t going to agree.

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 10/08/2026 19:32

I do sympathise to a certain extent. Only to an extent, because for one I don't share your experiences, and for two, I agree with a PP that you are "letting the perfect be the enemy of the good" to an extent.

My big thing with parenthood is that I can't look forward to anything. It might be compromised by my friends - all mums - having to bail. Or my son being ill. Or ending up in a&e overnight again. So I've lost that joy of anticipation.

But frankly, saying "oh, it's 6h, not 8h, I couldn't enjoy myself in 6h" is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

It's ok to feel as you feel - for a while. But if you don't do anything about it, you will waste years of your life resenting a situation that you can't change. And you won't make the changes that you can control, which is even worse.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 19:30

overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 19:24

@Jackiepumpkinhead parenting is hard, absolutely it is. But you can reasonably expect the odd break when you’re in a couple.

Imagine for a moment I had posted and said ‘I’m so tired, I want a lie in, I want a night off from doing baths and stories, I want to go to another city and explore it one Saturday’ - I wouldn’t get ‘suck it up buttercup’ replies; I’d get ‘where’s the dad, your partner should be stepping up, you should be getting equal amounts of free time.’

Of course, that isn’t a possibility for me and I do think it’s that people are missing - truthfully HOW they are missing it is really bizarre as it’s blindingly obvious, but they are, so rather than ‘Op, that’s really hard, it will get a lot easier though, I promise’ I’ve had ‘oh well, you had your thirties and twenties, it’s hard for us all you know’ sort of replied. And they have been upsetting, tbh, not because I think my situation is somehow unique - more that it’s made me feel I’m making a silly fuss about nothing and although I know that’s not the case, it did feel that way.

I’m sorry to be blunt but anyone replying to this thread with a husband or partner who is alive and present and trying to make out the situations are comparable is attention seeking and ridiculous.

I do understand where you’re coming from, OP and hope I didn’t upset you too much. But I do think you would have had more understanding if you’d explained about your full situation in your first post. I had a situation (nothing compared to yours) where I couldn’t be spontaneous, and had to make arrangements to do things, it was incredibly frustrating.

overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 19:27

@AtFirstLight thank you. I think as much as parenting can bring joy it can also bring isolation and I am feeling that heavily at the moment.

Thanks too @AnneElliott . to be clear though I haven’t ’given up’ on Scouts, I’m just explaining it isn’t a ticket for a free weekend for a good number of years Smile

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overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 19:25

Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 19:17

Are you talking about my posts? I haven’t said it’s controversial, I’ve said parenting is hard, alone or with a partner. Not sure what you’re arguing about. Where have I not acknowledged this?

Also, OP didn’t mention the father of her children had died until her 4th post and the fact she’s a widow until her 8th post. The context would have been helpful.

Actually, I clearly said I had already posted in lone parents and I don’t think the reason someone is alone is especially important.

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overandoveragain26 · 10/08/2026 19:24

@Jackiepumpkinhead parenting is hard, absolutely it is. But you can reasonably expect the odd break when you’re in a couple.

Imagine for a moment I had posted and said ‘I’m so tired, I want a lie in, I want a night off from doing baths and stories, I want to go to another city and explore it one Saturday’ - I wouldn’t get ‘suck it up buttercup’ replies; I’d get ‘where’s the dad, your partner should be stepping up, you should be getting equal amounts of free time.’

Of course, that isn’t a possibility for me and I do think it’s that people are missing - truthfully HOW they are missing it is really bizarre as it’s blindingly obvious, but they are, so rather than ‘Op, that’s really hard, it will get a lot easier though, I promise’ I’ve had ‘oh well, you had your thirties and twenties, it’s hard for us all you know’ sort of replied. And they have been upsetting, tbh, not because I think my situation is somehow unique - more that it’s made me feel I’m making a silly fuss about nothing and although I know that’s not the case, it did feel that way.

I’m sorry to be blunt but anyone replying to this thread with a husband or partner who is alive and present and trying to make out the situations are comparable is attention seeking and ridiculous.

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Jackiepumpkinhead · 10/08/2026 19:17

Notonthestairs · 10/08/2026 17:52

It’s hardly controversial to suggest parenting is a bloody sight harder doing it alone than it is in a relationship. And more difficult still when you are grieving the loss of your partner/children’s other parent.
A refusal to acknowledge that is just plain weird.

Are you talking about my posts? I haven’t said it’s controversial, I’ve said parenting is hard, alone or with a partner. Not sure what you’re arguing about. Where have I not acknowledged this?

Also, OP didn’t mention the father of her children had died until her 4th post and the fact she’s a widow until her 8th post. The context would have been helpful.