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My brother was horrid to me last night

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youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:08

I’m keeping this slightly vague as it would be very outing if a select few people read it!

I have a brother who is significantly older than I am. My existence has always been a sore point for him.

I saw him yesterday and in the space of about three hours he was just absolutely vile to me:

  • I’m non clinical in the NHS. He thinks that “people like me” are the reason the NHS is “fucked” - because I’m taking ten days holiday. It was really quite nasty, he went on and on about how it shouldn’t be allowed, how people in the public sector are lazy and don’t want to work. Never mind that he’s off on a three week holiday in December!
  • I live at home. He called me a “freeloading piece of shit” because I’m not paying £1,000 a month rent. He lived at home until a similar age, and when he did move out he moved into a friend’s house where he paid for bills and food only. I have had a discussion with my parents today and they have reassured me that they do not feel this way.
  • He said he thinks it’s “utterly pathetic” that I travel alone. He thinks I should grow up and, in his words, “find a man” to travel with.

AIBU to just not want to see him again any time soon? I found it really hurtful. I do struggle sometimes with feeling a little insecure about my position in life, but I also have to reflect on the fact that the economy is not easy right now and I know that all of my friends are in the same situation.

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AmnesiacsDream · 09/08/2026 20:43

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:59

What?

My dad wasn’t present last night. I told him what happened today.

So what's the fallout that's going to affect you if your dad and brother have an argument? I'm wondering what the dynamics are that your dad having an argument with your brother will end up affecting you even though your brother doesn't live with you anymore. Because it may be that the issue isn't just your brother.

Laurmolonlabe · 09/08/2026 20:41

Cut him off- it is none of his business how you run your life, and his judgement is unwelcome- cut him off and if he complains tell him his judgement is unwelcome.

outerspacepotato · 09/08/2026 20:31

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:03

It’s not so much that I want a relationship with him, I just don’t want to upset my parents

He dislikes you intensely, possibly hates you. That dislike has festered for years and turned him into a bullying asshole around you. That's why he's going after you and being verbally abusive. Stop setting yourself on fire to keep your parents warm. They should have corrected this bullying long ago.

You don't tolerate abuse. You think it's your role to keep the peace with an abusive asshole and there's no way to do that with someone who dislikes you so much.

Time to see what's going on and stand up for yourself. You will not be around him, he's been verbally abusive to you. He's nasty about every aspect of your life and time to tell your parents you are going no contact with him. If he comes over, you leave. No hi, no nothing. Your abusive bro doesn't exist. You're not his kick toy anymore.

PotatoLove · 09/08/2026 20:15

Find a man? Loool! What, like the miserable flacid twat he is?

I cut my older sister off many years ago after many years of her shitty behaviour towards me.

Never regretted it.

knottywig · 09/08/2026 20:03

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:58

I think this is the way forward to be honest, it’s just so hurtful to listen to.

Came on to say low contact and grey rock him. Also always have earphones in your pocket, so when he starts and you can put them in. Is he married?

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:58

Persephonia1966 · 09/08/2026 19:08

Low contact is a perfectly good option too, and easier than no contact.
So you don't need to make a grand announcement that you won't be seeing him ever again. And you can still attend events like Christmas etc that he is also at without making it awkward, making your family feel as if they have to choose between who to invite. But just avoid seeing him in situations like you saw him today. Grey rock or just walk away if you are at a joint family.event and he starts on at you. Basically just mentally distanced yourself and stop expecting him to be nice because clearly he won't. Once you decide that then it's harder for their criticisms to get in your head.

I think this is the way forward to be honest, it’s just so hurtful to listen to.

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maxslice · 09/08/2026 19:46

He’s a bully. You don’t have to spend time with him if he can’t even be civil. There’s some lack or insecurity in his life that he is taking out on you to make himself feel better. You can limit your exposure to his negativity.

Ilovemyfam · 09/08/2026 19:43

Persephonia1966 · 09/08/2026 19:08

Low contact is a perfectly good option too, and easier than no contact.
So you don't need to make a grand announcement that you won't be seeing him ever again. And you can still attend events like Christmas etc that he is also at without making it awkward, making your family feel as if they have to choose between who to invite. But just avoid seeing him in situations like you saw him today. Grey rock or just walk away if you are at a joint family.event and he starts on at you. Basically just mentally distanced yourself and stop expecting him to be nice because clearly he won't. Once you decide that then it's harder for their criticisms to get in your head.

This.

My first thought was to suggest some clever comebacks, but brother doesn’t sound very clever so they would probably be lost and just create more fuel to argue over.

I think it is good that your parents know. Before Christmas make it clear to them that you don’t want to make it awkward, but if he starts his nonsense again (probably after drinking) then you will laugh and leave the room/go for a walk or something else. If he starts on you they might consider if to include him on their guest list.

Pssedoffathis · 09/08/2026 19:33

He sounds like a prick. He is obviously an unhappy person. Time to take some distance from him.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 09/08/2026 19:25

Funny how no women disapprove of women travelling solo, isn't it. Some men just don't like it when we show we can do it without needing them.

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:23

MadinMarch · 09/08/2026 19:15

Is it likely that your brother felt 'abandoned' or pushed aside somehow by your dad when you were born?
Your brother sounds vile, and irrational, but I suspect he's stuck in a 'hurt child' mode. Not that that helps you in anyway, and I'd be tempted to either avoid him altogether or have some really good retorts to throw back at him as someone else has already suggested. Alternatively, just laugh in his face every time he says something outrageous.

I don’t know. He lived with us until I was about 6, and then he moved in with his mum after a stint backpacking Europe.

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ChaToilLeam · 09/08/2026 19:21

Just do not bother with him any more. Minimal contact. When he comes to visit, you've got other plans. He sounds vile so do not give him another minute of your time.

WallaceinAnderland · 09/08/2026 19:20

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:03

It’s not so much that I want a relationship with him, I just don’t want to upset my parents

Yes but you are implying that in order to not upset your parents, you do intend to continue having a relationship with him.

MadinMarch · 09/08/2026 19:15

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:28

14 year age difference. My dad and his ex had split about five years before he met my mum.

Is it likely that your brother felt 'abandoned' or pushed aside somehow by your dad when you were born?
Your brother sounds vile, and irrational, but I suspect he's stuck in a 'hurt child' mode. Not that that helps you in anyway, and I'd be tempted to either avoid him altogether or have some really good retorts to throw back at him as someone else has already suggested. Alternatively, just laugh in his face every time he says something outrageous.

Persephonia1966 · 09/08/2026 19:08

Low contact is a perfectly good option too, and easier than no contact.
So you don't need to make a grand announcement that you won't be seeing him ever again. And you can still attend events like Christmas etc that he is also at without making it awkward, making your family feel as if they have to choose between who to invite. But just avoid seeing him in situations like you saw him today. Grey rock or just walk away if you are at a joint family.event and he starts on at you. Basically just mentally distanced yourself and stop expecting him to be nice because clearly he won't. Once you decide that then it's harder for their criticisms to get in your head.

pinkyredrose · 09/08/2026 19:05

I'd tell him to go fuck himself personally.

southofscotland · 09/08/2026 19:03

OP I’m sorry. It’s horrible to have a family member speak to you like this, especially when it’s someone who should have your back. Please know that his anger is from his own failings and insecurities, not yours, and his shitty behaviour is neither your fault nor your responsibility to deal with. Cut his negativity out of your life and keep thriving.

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:03

WallaceinAnderland · 09/08/2026 18:53

You clearly want to keep having a relationship with him OP.

It’s not so much that I want a relationship with him, I just don’t want to upset my parents

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Redlollyyellowlollies · 09/08/2026 19:02

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/08/2026 18:11

I went no contact with mine for a blissful couple of years. Upset my parents though.

How would yours feel?

This is what I did about 2 years ago and I'm happy to keep it that way. Nothing will make him happy and he's just a nasty spiteful person.

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:59

AmnesiacsDream · 09/08/2026 18:50

What fallout? Surely after your Dad had thrown him out you'd just have a quiet house? Or does your Dad take out his stresses on you too, so the place would feel awful for days?

What?

My dad wasn’t present last night. I told him what happened today.

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Loulou4022 · 09/08/2026 18:56

He’s a cockwomble! Glad it sounds as though your dad has your back! I would avoid him as much as possible and only see him at family events

5foot5 · 09/08/2026 18:56

I mean, you could think up all sorts of witty comebacks. Or you could just tell him " Fuck off you bullying twat"

Would your Dad be OK with that do you think?

WallaceinAnderland · 09/08/2026 18:53

You clearly want to keep having a relationship with him OP.

pinkyredrose · 09/08/2026 18:51

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:26

That’s what he thinks! Because it’s “his tax money that’s paying for it”!! When I said I had a week off sick because I had the flu? “Oh and I paid for that too”

He doesn't sound terribly intelligent.

AmnesiacsDream · 09/08/2026 18:50

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:34

Me, because it’s not worth the fallout if they had an argument

What fallout? Surely after your Dad had thrown him out you'd just have a quiet house? Or does your Dad take out his stresses on you too, so the place would feel awful for days?

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