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My brother was horrid to me last night

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youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:08

I’m keeping this slightly vague as it would be very outing if a select few people read it!

I have a brother who is significantly older than I am. My existence has always been a sore point for him.

I saw him yesterday and in the space of about three hours he was just absolutely vile to me:

  • I’m non clinical in the NHS. He thinks that “people like me” are the reason the NHS is “fucked” - because I’m taking ten days holiday. It was really quite nasty, he went on and on about how it shouldn’t be allowed, how people in the public sector are lazy and don’t want to work. Never mind that he’s off on a three week holiday in December!
  • I live at home. He called me a “freeloading piece of shit” because I’m not paying £1,000 a month rent. He lived at home until a similar age, and when he did move out he moved into a friend’s house where he paid for bills and food only. I have had a discussion with my parents today and they have reassured me that they do not feel this way.
  • He said he thinks it’s “utterly pathetic” that I travel alone. He thinks I should grow up and, in his words, “find a man” to travel with.

AIBU to just not want to see him again any time soon? I found it really hurtful. I do struggle sometimes with feeling a little insecure about my position in life, but I also have to reflect on the fact that the economy is not easy right now and I know that all of my friends are in the same situation.

OP posts:
youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:37

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/08/2026 10:35

The reason he feels entitled to comment about your life is because you still live at home. He sees your parents house as an extension of himself. The only way to make it stop is to move out.

Edited

I think this is a joke, because it’s as much my home as it was his. He’s well aware that moving out wouldn’t be financially viable for me at the moment, due to insanely high mortgage rates.

OP posts:
TorroFerney · 10/08/2026 10:36

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:28

I just feel it would be a shame for my parents.

Ate they more important than you? It’s his fault not yours. But stop telling him stuff, he doesn’t need to know about your holiday or flu. Unless in a twisted way you are getting him to react so you feel justified in not having g anything to do with him and you can show your parents? . Bit of a scab you pick? Understandable totally but not needed just don’t see him.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:36

OP did his mum stay with her affair partner ? Does he have any half siblings on his mum’s side. If so, is he vile to them too ?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/08/2026 10:35

The reason he feels entitled to comment about your life is because you still live at home. He sees your parents house as an extension of himself. The only way to make it stop is to move out.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:34

WhatTheHellsGoingOn · 10/08/2026 06:06

So he was about 7 or 8 when his dad left him and his mum?

Its obv not your fault but he hates you and probably hates your dad for leaving him at such a young age, and the fact you’ve had him all to yourself for the best part of 30 odd years will seem grossly unfair to him.

There’s no point arguing with someone like that or trying to discuss things rationally. Whatever you say will be wrong and offensive to him. How does he treat your mum out of interest?

OP hasn’t had their dad all to herself though. She says brother lived with them until she was around six, and then left to live with his mum. He would have been around twenty given the age gap, so a free choice. And according to OP it wasn’t his dad who left. His mum had an affair and his dad tried to repair things for the children but she left anyway. So if there’s any resentment on DB’s part, it should be directed at his own mother, not OP or their dad.

Bristolandlazy · 10/08/2026 10:29

What a bellend, he sounds like an all around unpleasant person with issues who is maybe jealous of you. Good for dad being angry with him. What an idiot he is. Sorry you went through that.

Whiteshapelz · 10/08/2026 10:21

He clearly is abusive and you see your role in life as to accept that.

How your parents, your mother would tolerate this is beyond me.

He abuses you verbally because he can.

You are ripe for a highly abusive relationship if you think this is what you have to accept from those around you to keep the peace.

Do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk as a start.
Look at some therapy, perhaps through work.

Your brother is a bullying thug and you accepting it has egged him on.

This is a shocking way to live.
He can visit anytime and verbally attack you in your home.

Awful.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:19

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:47

He’d had a couple of drinks.

30k a year salary so not quite covering mine!

So not a net contributor. Won’t be paying enough tax to mitigate what he takes out of the system himself, so why is he picking at you ?

PamelaColmansMustard · 10/08/2026 10:16

Taken me a long time to get to this point, to be fair, but I take the view now that if you wouldn't accept that shit from a friend or acquaintance, why should you from a family member?

He can think what he likes. Doesn't mean he's right. Certainly doesn't mean he has the right to browbeat you.

Goldengirl123 · 10/08/2026 10:13

And you said???? I take it you didn’t let him get away with it?

LumpkinPumpkin · 10/08/2026 10:13

He sounds like an absolute wanker.

Mumsnet loves a ‘go no contact’ but I totally appreciate why that isn’t always straightforward. It sounds as though he probably wouldn’t go out of his way to see you so I would probably just avoid initiating anything, and conveniently have plans if you know he is due to visit your parents. If you happen to cross paths then cordial but detached is probably the best way forwards. No need to make a big announcement or make things awkward for anyone.

Balloonhearts · 10/08/2026 10:12

Let your dad deal with it. He raised him, let him teach the little turd the error of his ways.

researchers3 · 10/08/2026 10:01

TillieAndPosey · 09/08/2026 18:29

‘Find a man’ to travel with? Has he time-travelled from 1780?

You need wittier comebacks. Tell him that you’ll ask one of your lovely clinical colleagues to assess him, because he’s clearly not right in the head.

Seriously, these are the rantings of a madman and I think your parents should be very concerned about him. I would be if my son was speaking like that to anyone.

Were your parents present? I would have a LOT to say if either of my kids spoke that way to anyone, regardless of their ages, and especially to eachother.

Who does he think he is commenting on your life choices?!

You need to stop caring what he thinks, telling him your business and your rental payments are between you and your parents.

He is possibly very jealous? But definitely extremely nasty and misogynistic.

the7Vabo · 10/08/2026 09:59

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 07:40

I’m not. I just hate confrontation and would do anything to avoid it, especially when I know said confrontation would lead to my parents (especially my dad) suffering. My dad’s not been in the best health lately so it’s in everyone’s best interests that he’s kept calm and not being upset by my brother

I really admire this Op.

I think you need to work out how to minimise contact with your brother in a manner that minimises involvement/impact on your parents given that it’s important to you.

I would try to minimise actually being around him as much as possible. So go out for a walk etc if he comes over. I also wouldn’t engage with him on any of the 3 topics. He’s not going to suddenly see the error of his ways so I wouldn’t waste my breath. I’d wager he is carrying a lot of baggage from his youth, nothing you can do about that.

I would shut him down though - I’d don’t know why you feel entitled to all these opinions on my life, I’m not interested or whatever wording fits. No big debates about the NHS or whatever just block the conversation.

twilightcafe · 10/08/2026 09:58

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 07:40

I’m not. I just hate confrontation and would do anything to avoid it, especially when I know said confrontation would lead to my parents (especially my dad) suffering. My dad’s not been in the best health lately so it’s in everyone’s best interests that he’s kept calm and not being upset by my brother

Your brother is a cunt.
I bet £100 your parents are fully aware of this.

Have nothing to do with him. What does he bring to your life. And you are also not responsible for managing the feelings of your parents at the expense of your own.

godmum56 · 10/08/2026 09:55

HectorPlasm · 10/08/2026 09:54

He needs a refund on his charm school fees

oh where is that laugh emoji😁

HectorPlasm · 10/08/2026 09:54

He needs a refund on his charm school fees

godmum56 · 10/08/2026 09:51

OP why are you even needing to ask?

Monty36 · 10/08/2026 09:44

It is very hard when a sibling takes against you. For no apparent reason. I say apparent but then again….

I wouldn’t spend too much time taking his comments to heart. Ignore them. Tell him to mind his own business. And ask him why does he want to hurt you ?

Bear in mind this could be some sort of calculated campaign.

I would urge you to talk to your parents about any Will they have.
That they appoint a Solicitor to be the executor. If your father appoints you both, to be an executor you can go to a Solicitor to oversee things. Hugely helpful.

Far ahead, yes. But it just be that maybe this is in your brothers mind too. Especially if this nastiness has just started not too long ago.

Please ensure your father doesn’t make him a Power of Attorney at some point. Explain all to this and your concerns. A Solicitor can be a POA too.
Up to your parents of course, but do outline your concerns.

mulberrymilk · 10/08/2026 09:42

AIBU to just not want to see him again any time soon?

It would be abnormal to want to be this angry little man's punching bag.

Firstruleofsoupover · 10/08/2026 09:29

Might you consider sending him an email with a concerned veneer, dispassionately recapping what happened so he cannot forward the email without embarrassment, and including a couple of links to paranoia support and anger management techniques type websites, that “a colleague at work” suggested? At best he might investigate, second best is it will really get up his nose.

”Freeloading piece of shit” is unacceptable. Relationship over for ever surely, but it would be great if you could tell people the reason and quote him directly, rather than politely change the subject to protect this arse but I do understand it would be as if the universe was splitting. (I wish I had followed my own advice when in similar situation, maybe we are both a bit boiled frog?.) Interesting he chose a time when your father wasn’t there. I had a brother that was equally furious at my existence, keen to convey his hatred and greenlit for doing so by the rest of the family. It turned out it was largely fuelled by lies from another family member.

Anyway, so very sorry you did not have the kind of brother you deserve. He wants you out of that house, doesn’t he. First freeloading accusations to shame you into moving out, then saying you are contemptuous for not having a partner (in whose house you could conveniently go and live). I wonder why.

HollyIvy89 · 10/08/2026 09:29

Sounds like he hates his life and is projecting this at you. What a loser he is.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 10/08/2026 09:27

How about this, @youdeserveit - "Actually brother, I pay tax too - so by your logic, I am self-employed and can have a holiday whenever I want - thanks for the good advice!!"

shiningstar2 · 10/08/2026 09:24

I know where you are coming from op not wanting drama and upset for your parents
I think your best option is low contact. You can do that without the drama of no contact.
Also prepare yourself when you do have to see him be becoming emotionally detached as far as possible. If/when he does upset you don't allow him to see/know.
This takes the power away from him.
He will have his own issues for sure. Parents split at about six, whoever was at fault, new baby half sibling during emotionally turbulent ten years. None of his issues are your fault and if he lived with you during those years your mum and your/his dad must have cared and made him welcome but he probably has unspoken issues. You can't help that but I find somehow knowing that helps the low contact go more smoothly. 💐

TealScroller · 10/08/2026 09:24

Sorry my sausage fingers pressed the wrong button, I DO NOT think you are unreasonable!