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My brother was horrid to me last night

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youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 18:08

I’m keeping this slightly vague as it would be very outing if a select few people read it!

I have a brother who is significantly older than I am. My existence has always been a sore point for him.

I saw him yesterday and in the space of about three hours he was just absolutely vile to me:

  • I’m non clinical in the NHS. He thinks that “people like me” are the reason the NHS is “fucked” - because I’m taking ten days holiday. It was really quite nasty, he went on and on about how it shouldn’t be allowed, how people in the public sector are lazy and don’t want to work. Never mind that he’s off on a three week holiday in December!
  • I live at home. He called me a “freeloading piece of shit” because I’m not paying £1,000 a month rent. He lived at home until a similar age, and when he did move out he moved into a friend’s house where he paid for bills and food only. I have had a discussion with my parents today and they have reassured me that they do not feel this way.
  • He said he thinks it’s “utterly pathetic” that I travel alone. He thinks I should grow up and, in his words, “find a man” to travel with.

AIBU to just not want to see him again any time soon? I found it really hurtful. I do struggle sometimes with feeling a little insecure about my position in life, but I also have to reflect on the fact that the economy is not easy right now and I know that all of my friends are in the same situation.

OP posts:
MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 10/08/2026 11:37

What did he say when you replied with oh do fuck off?

Didimum · 10/08/2026 11:37

Haven't you posted about this lovely brother before?

PinkyFlamingo · 10/08/2026 11:35

youdeserveit · 09/08/2026 19:03

It’s not so much that I want a relationship with him, I just don’t want to upset my parents

So you're willing to be bullied by this twat just so "my parents aren't upset"? Stand up for yourself for goodness sake.

Monty36 · 10/08/2026 11:33

ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:40

Well the fact is wherever OP is living is none of his business. She’s working and contributing to the household. Why would you think she should pander to this vile, entitled overgrown brat and inconvenience herself to satisfy him ? If he feels entitled to comment in such horrible terms to OP I’d suggest that all is not well in his own life. From one of her updates it seems her dad had to intervene to stop DB treating his own son in similarly vile terms, so clearly he has problems.

Edited

I suspect he is wondering what happens if and when dad dies ? And where OP is living could very much become his business.

OP has said Dad is not in the best of health.
This is all about what comes next…..

EmeraldShamrock000 · 10/08/2026 11:31

OP I know that you probably want to be close to him, don’t waste anymore time.
We were close siblings x 5, my Dbro always picked on me because I was a cryer, a sensitive child to his insults. He adored my younger Dsis.

He played off us.

I have never said this on here, he is still a bollox now. Last year I went low contact, not that he’d notice but I’m not tolerating his rudeness anymore.
I am 46, don’t waste another decade or two before going low contact. I still see him at Christmas, I stay sober and polite.
He makes me feel like that sensitive child again. He has no self awareness.

101Alsatians · 10/08/2026 11:25

My brother would NEVER and has never spoken to me like that and he's by no means perfect.

The only thing he would object to is me travelling alone,he is 10 years older and still sees me as a teenager in some ways I think (late 30s,mum of 2).

Mellowautumnmists · 10/08/2026 11:22

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:58

No I’d not class it as abuse as he’s not hitting me is he?!

And you really believe that? Really!? Confused

MaggieBsBoat · 10/08/2026 11:17

I’ve got 3 sisters and a brother. 2 of my sisters I have nothing to do with. No guilt. They are unkind, racist, smallminded little people. Why would I have them in my life? Go NC and feel no regrets.

speakball · 10/08/2026 11:14

No I’d not class it as abuse as he’s not hitting me is he?!

one day if your daughter says her husband is talking to her like your brother talks to you and she thinks she needs to leave will you tell her not to, because being pulled apart emotionally by somebody is just ranting? Our mouths can be weapons as much as our hands. Think about it. All abuse is emotional. If your brother slapped you in the face it’s the damage to your emotional landscape that will stay with you. The physical damage is gone quite quickly but it’s the knowledge that you can’t trust him and you’re not safe with him. Your brother beats you up psychologically.

mulberrymilk · 10/08/2026 11:09

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:40

He’s not abusive. He was just on a rant

A verbally and emotionally abusive rant.

ladylioness · 10/08/2026 11:03

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:58

No I’d not class it as abuse as he’s not hitting me is he?!

It is emotional abuse, there are several types of abuse:
Emotional/Psychological Abuse

  • Characterized by behaviors that cause psychological harm.
  • Indicators include:
  • Isolation from friends and family
  • Intimidation or verbal abuse
  • Persistent criticism or humiliation
godmum56 · 10/08/2026 11:01

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/08/2026 10:35

The reason he feels entitled to comment about your life is because you still live at home. He sees your parents house as an extension of himself. The only way to make it stop is to move out.

Edited

nope. it can be stopped by shutting the gobface down. The OP's Dad was wild about it too.

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:58

Elsvieta · 10/08/2026 10:50

Anyone who calls you a freeloading piece of shit, pathetic etc is abusive. Would you not call it abuse if it came from a friend / boyfriend / colleague?

No I’d not class it as abuse as he’s not hitting me is he?!

OP posts:
Elsvieta · 10/08/2026 10:50

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:40

He’s not abusive. He was just on a rant

Anyone who calls you a freeloading piece of shit, pathetic etc is abusive. Would you not call it abuse if it came from a friend / boyfriend / colleague?

TorroFerney · 10/08/2026 10:50

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:37

I think this is a joke, because it’s as much my home as it was his. He’s well aware that moving out wouldn’t be financially viable for me at the moment, due to insanely high mortgage rates.

That poster is not saying his opinion is right or based in logic though, you are less in his eyes you are a child st home he’s the adult.

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:48

jellyfish2121 · 10/08/2026 10:45

Could he be resentful that you still live at home but he doesn't? Maybe he would want to live there?

He’s married with two children.

He lived with his mum until a little older than me, and then only moved out to be with friends because of work requirements.

OP posts:
BrokenWingsCantFly · 10/08/2026 10:45

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 07:40

I’m not. I just hate confrontation and would do anything to avoid it, especially when I know said confrontation would lead to my parents (especially my dad) suffering. My dad’s not been in the best health lately so it’s in everyone’s best interests that he’s kept calm and not being upset by my brother

You sound like a lovely person OP. If you don't want to cut contract entirely, could you ask your parents to be mindful you are not left alone with him? It sounds like he took the opportunity for the abuse when they were not around.

I knew he wouldn't be on a high salary before I read all your posts. I know someone exactly like him who is targeting me recently. Angry little men like this feel insecure, jealous. They try to make themselves feel bigger by trying to put other people down. To convince themselves, or try and convince you, that you are smaller than them. He will be jealous of your career, that you are happy under the same roof as your dad, that you have the independence and freedom to travel alone. So many people can't do that. I travelled alone last year for the 1st time and loved every second of it. Getting to decide the whole itinerary, where to eat and total relaxation, bliss.

Every negative comment he makes, just know it is a highlight into his own insecurities. Bat 1 back if you can. Especially his pathetic comment that he is funding your holiday "Not on your salary mate".

jellyfish2121 · 10/08/2026 10:45

Could he be resentful that you still live at home but he doesn't? Maybe he would want to live there?

ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:43

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:40

He’s not abusive. He was just on a rant

You need to see the ‘rant’ for what it is. And it is abusive OP. He’d had a few drinks but in my view that makes it worse.

SunnyRedSnail · 10/08/2026 10:42

@youdeserveit it sounds to me like your brother is jealous of you. He got the shitty separated parent life and you didn't. You get to live with your parents. He can't as they are not together.

It doesn't give him the right to be abusive though. He needs to get over his ego and focus on his own life. Its like he is trying to belittle your life to make his own life seem better. MH issues I would say.

I'd be tempted to send him a polite but firm message then go very low contact.

"<name>, I'm sorry to see you have so much resentment towards me. If you need someone to talk to them I am here for you, but otherwise please refrain from any further nastiness as it isn't kind or necessary. X"

If he replies with anything nasty then just delete and ignore.

ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:42

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:40

I never said I was though. I absolutely have it easier than clinical colleagues but it’s also not a walk in the park!

It’s also not a reason for your DB to be so vile to you. As a previous poster commented, you could probably work down a coal mine and he’d have the same attitude.

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:40

ImpossibleGermany · 10/08/2026 08:55

Presumably she works with limited resources and limited time

I think everyone in the public sector (and plenty of people in the private sector for that matter) would say that applies to them. It's hardly unique to the NHS.

And besides, people in non-clinical positions won't suffer at the coal face as a result of those challenges in quite the same way that doctors and nurses will. It's ridiculous to suggest that purely administrative roles are remotely comparable in that respect. The idea that everyone in the NHS is some underpaid, struggling martyr or selfless hero is laughable.

Edited

I never said I was though. I absolutely have it easier than clinical colleagues but it’s also not a walk in the park!

OP posts:
ThreadGuardDog · 10/08/2026 10:40

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/08/2026 10:35

The reason he feels entitled to comment about your life is because you still live at home. He sees your parents house as an extension of himself. The only way to make it stop is to move out.

Edited

Well the fact is wherever OP is living is none of his business. She’s working and contributing to the household. Why would you think she should pander to this vile, entitled overgrown brat and inconvenience herself to satisfy him ? If he feels entitled to comment in such horrible terms to OP I’d suggest that all is not well in his own life. From one of her updates it seems her dad had to intervene to stop DB treating his own son in similarly vile terms, so clearly he has problems.

youdeserveit · 10/08/2026 10:40

Whiteshapelz · 10/08/2026 10:21

He clearly is abusive and you see your role in life as to accept that.

How your parents, your mother would tolerate this is beyond me.

He abuses you verbally because he can.

You are ripe for a highly abusive relationship if you think this is what you have to accept from those around you to keep the peace.

Do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk as a start.
Look at some therapy, perhaps through work.

Your brother is a bullying thug and you accepting it has egged him on.

This is a shocking way to live.
He can visit anytime and verbally attack you in your home.

Awful.

He’s not abusive. He was just on a rant

OP posts:
GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 10/08/2026 10:39

That’s not okay and not normal. I am also the youngest (my mum has my oldest brother at 19, me at 40) and he is very kind to me. He refers to me as his “practice child” because he looked after me a lot when I was a baby. It’s sad you and your brother have a strained relationship, and it seems like maybe it’s time to go NC. I’m sorry he’s a dick though. Enjoy your 10 days off!!